x2. Agree %150

Which has never been tested against an actual threat.

I honestly would not underestimate North Korea and its soldier-fanatics... fanatisism is a very dangerous weapon. And that's besides the fact that we can't just nuke North Korea off the map, because then you'd have China pissed about the fallout. You don't want to be pissing off the Chinese and colloiqually that's exactly what NK is doing.

Yes. Very true. And to alleviate some fears of N.K. - think Submarine. 'nuff said.

We are perceived as weak now, so the little pisspot in NK is rattling his sabre.

I agree.

And then what?


"His glorious leader Kim Jong Il's fire chariot of doom which will smite it's very creators from the face of the illustrious leader Kim Il Sung's world"

That reminds me of "The Mother of All Wars".

Most of this is for internal consumption. The problem is that they are starting to believe their own bullshit.

Ya I need to fire up Team America lol. That movie cracks me up.

As far as the soldier fanatics thing- I think that's more Iran. Everything I've seen and read on this leads me to believe that people join the army just to be able to eat in NK. Even though the army gets crappy rations, at least they get something. I'm sure they have some fanatics- but I've read that they have to keep guards on their own soldiers to keep them from running.

JEEEEEEZE.



That guy has got to be SOOO small in the pants to pull this BS over and over again.



Its too bad Obama is in there, McCain would have already bombed them.

"He's headed east down bakalakadaka street!"

I cant tell you alot because I dont know alot, but my uncle-in-law works for Airforce Tech and just got off a 4 year station at Area 51.


I prod him everyday, but all hes ever told me is "all that ill say, is may god have mercy upon our enemies in the event we decide to use what we have''

the hell with swine flu this is more deadly one bomb on us would kill more people than swine flu in 4hrs. i have been thinking and reading all this treats and stuff i think they should send the people that are in death row and not people who have families. if we would go to war with them i have a wife and 2 kids i do not want to go 2 war for something that we did start.

Moar Team America..because it's just so..fitting.

I'm surprised to see no moderation in this thread.

I want to post a general warning. Politics has been banned from Camaro5. Be careful not to associate your patriotism with any political party or values that would represent a political agenda.

With that in mind, I will go ahead and point some things out regarding North Korea.

North Korea is technically still at a state of war with the United States because no peace treaty was ever signed after the Korean War. It is therefore feasible to conclude that the executive branch of the United States has the constitutional authority to initiate any act of war with North Korea at any time. In other words, President Obama does not need to seek Congressional approval in order to engage North Korea.

North Korea has weapons of mass destruction. Besides any nuclear material in the possession of this particular government, North Korea has a substantial chemical weapons arsenal. These weapons will make any conventional conflict with the nation very dangerous for troops. If the US is going to invade North Korea, these weapons will inflict massive casualties on American troops and North Korean civilians. It is possible that the press will hold the US accountable for such casualties, so it is important that any campaign is swift and decisive. With such a closed nation, intelligence is limited, so finding and destroying these weapons before their use is unlikely. In effect, it is reasonable to consider that an engagement with North Korea, while necessary, will be damaging to the image of the United States and those running its government because the use of weapons of mass destruction will inflict potentially massive casualties.

North Korea is a rogue state. Without any significant alliances, North Korea could not reasonably expect to win a major international conflict. The most likely allies for North Korea are Iran, Venezuela, Palestine, and Syria. Palestine has no military, and Syria would not engage the US without other Middle Eastern support because it has an impotent military force. Venezuela would seek agreements with OPEC nations to reduce oil output in a passive attempt to sanction the US, but Venezuela would not engage. Iran would only engage the US defensively because Iran has enough domestic turmoil that its military would be very occupied if a war happened in the coming weeks. North Korea, therefore, is largely alone. Even China is uneasy with North Korea's nuclear pursuits. The war would have at least two fronts, and then North Korea would fold. South Korea would unify with North Korea to form a new nation with increased influence in the region. That nation would likely follow a similar development path as the reunified Germany. North Korea will always follow South Korea industrially, but it will be part of a unified nation with a single democratic identity. In conclusion, if war breaks out in Korea, North Korea will lose. It might not be quick, but it will happen.

oh yeah, I always forget about the end of the world. :sm0:

Well then I guess I won't extend my Onstar till 2013 as I was planning. :laugh:

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we should be safe ;)