Originally Posted by CanadianRocky (Post 623000)

And the second row of seats is Japan. Any nuclear attack on Korea will lead to massive death by radiation poisoning in Japan.

Japan is directly West of North Korea and the wind flows East/West.

correct, but thats only referring to the weapons system that I worked on. Id be willing to bet we have more in our arsenal than just the trident system...most of which we'll probably never learn of, unless unless of course they get used.(hopefully we dont have to)

And the third row of seats is the USA.
It is the next land mass and radiation poisoning will effect the US as well.
Don't be so sure the US would even respond with Nukes even if the NK's used them.

Wrong again even if you're talking about the trident system...cant go into specifics...but I know what the full scale after effects would be.

First off all, they have no delivery system that is reliable, and their Nukes would be low yield, so they end up being the dying charge of a wounded animal.

Do you have any definitive proof of this? (referring to their nukes?) we all know their long range delivery capabilities are subpar... but as far as the potential yield of their weapons I can't agree or disagree.

Why would the US use the Nukes if it would do as much damaged to the USA as it did to NK as in food, water and human health issues?

Why would the US use the Nukes when conventional weapons would do the job as well, without the radiation issues?

Refer to my second response

Now, you may not care about this point (why would I not care about this point?), but even if the NK's used Nukes, and the US retaliated by "Blowing them back into the Dark Ages", the US will become an international pariah.

If the NKs use Nukes, you can bet the USA and the rest of the world will respond with devastating force.

One of the reasons is so that the Iranians, the Taliban, and every other Terrorist out there knows that the penalty for using them on the US or its Allys is something that is so prohibitive in cost that no one will consider using them again.

Originally Posted by GatorBlue371 (Post 623509)

no troops. No rebuilding. Bombs. Then let them clean up the mess. We don't want another Iraq.

Originally Posted by TFord (Post 624356)

Originally Posted by CanadianRocky (Post 624476)

If you knew as much as you said you know, you wouldn't say anything.

Trust you?

I would not trust anyone who implied that they had top secret information and bragged about it in a chat room.

And if you do, and you are talking about it in here, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Originally Posted by drivingincamaro (Post 624595)

he is not Releasing any classified Information that can help Americas Enemy's at all..

Originally Posted by CanadianRocky (Post 624667)

There is an old saying that goes like this.

Those that know, don't say, and those that say, don't know.

Originally Posted by moto-camaro (Post 624378)

sigh... silly airport blocks all the videos :cry:



honestly i think that's the way to do it, i'm not in the military, so i don't know that much about the logistics of it all, or what's feasible and what isn't. but the way i think is if i country was to park a few subs, destroyers, guided missile cruisers, and aircraft carriers, you could cripple almost any company without stepping foot inside. obviously that's not how something would go down, i'd imagine you'd have to have some troops on the ground.
that idealistic approach is like impossible. never hurts to dream though

and TFord, much respect for your line of work :respekt:
i shall not argue with the man who takes care of the weapons we never hear of. i'd imagine his information comes from higher powers than what we all get to read. that's the scary part, they've designed weapons, that most of us haven't even dreamed of.

North Korea; advice:
http://www.interarchitect.com/images/bear.png

Originally Posted by TFord (Post 624813)

:laughabove:

What exactly did I say? I know what Im allowed to say, and not to say. Everything that I did say can easily be found on the internet, military, or discovery channel... and if your really interested you can go get a phd in physics. If you believe me or not I really don't care. No need to be a dick about it my friend. Just dropping you a few kernels of knowledge, what you decide to do with them is up to you. I love internet tough guys...lol

Originally Posted by The_Blur (Post 617755)

I'm surprised to see no moderation in this thread.

I want to post a general warning. Politics has been banned from Camaro5. Be careful not to associate your patriotism with any political party or values that would represent a political agenda.

With that in mind, I will go ahead and point some things out regarding North Korea.

North Korea is technically still at a state of war with the United States because no peace treaty was ever signed after the Korean War. It is therefore feasible to conclude that the executive branch of the United States has the constitutional authority to initiate any act of war with North Korea at any time. In other words, President Obama does not need to seek Congressional approval in order to engage North Korea.

North Korea has weapons of mass destruction. Besides any nuclear material in the possession of this particular government, North Korea has a substantial chemical weapons arsenal. These weapons will make any conventional conflict with the nation very dangerous for troops. If the US is going to invade North Korea, these weapons will inflict massive casualties on American troops and North Korean civilians. It is possible that the press will hold the US accountable for such casualties, so it is important that any campaign is swift and decisive. With such a closed nation, intelligence is limited, so finding and destroying these weapons before their use is unlikely. In effect, it is reasonable to consider that an engagement with North Korea, while necessary, will be damaging to the image of the United States and those running its government because the use of weapons of mass destruction will inflict potentially massive casualties.

North Korea is a rogue state. Without any significant alliances, North Korea could not reasonably expect to win a major international conflict. The most likely allies for North Korea are Iran, Venezuela, Palestine, and Syria. Palestine has no military, and Syria would not engage the US without other Middle Eastern support because it has an impotent military force. Venezuela would seek agreements with OPEC nations to reduce oil output in a passive attempt to sanction the US, but Venezuela would not engage. Iran would only engage the US defensively because Iran has enough domestic turmoil that its military would be very occupied if a war happened in the coming weeks. North Korea, therefore, is largely alone. Even China is uneasy with North Korea's nuclear pursuits. The war would have at least two fronts, and then North Korea would fold. South Korea would unify with North Korea to form a new nation with increased influence in the region. That nation would likely follow a similar development path as the reunified Germany. North Korea will always follow South Korea industrially, but it will be part of a unified nation with a single democratic identity. In conclusion, if war breaks out in Korea, North Korea will lose. It might not be quick, but it will happen.