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rex113 04-20-2009 05:06 PM

Maybe this is how the Mole is marking his cars I remember someone asking him to leave some evidence behind.:iono::laugh:

cam2fst4u 04-20-2009 05:12 PM

he said it was in the contract that they could not do that. so still waiting for someone in the know to answer it must be some reason.

Chevyrocker 04-20-2009 05:21 PM

Subscribed...curious to see how this one turns out...

romli 04-20-2009 06:53 PM

They're probably intended to be one of these:

http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/g.../Band-Aid2.jpg

Teleplayer 04-20-2009 07:17 PM

If the weights have any real purpose, it is probably something to do with vibration.
Or else GM is looking for a way to dispose of a bunch of lead so they don't have to pay to get rid of it !!

KJS 04-20-2009 07:54 PM

40+ years of working on my cars and plenty years of checking out other people's cars and NEVER saw or heard of something like this. Someone on the line with a "different" sense of humor?
Can't wait for the answer to this one....

TLSTWIN 04-20-2009 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teleplayer (Post 419948)
If the weights have any real purpose, it is probably something to do with vibration.
Or else GM is looking for a way to dispose of a bunch of lead so they don't have to pay to get rid of it !!

If this were a motorcycle I would agree, but hard to believe that GM has gone to such great attention to detail.....:iono:

Subscribed...:popcorn:

Xmicro_SS 04-20-2009 08:25 PM

I bet the first run of cars are being held up....JUST TO PUT THESE ON! Now that makes some sense.

kdoske 04-20-2009 10:02 PM

Ug, its pretty obvious what they are for. I decided to illustrate it with the drawing below...

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1958/...prevention.jpg
(if you need more detail just ask)

Teleplayer 04-20-2009 10:14 PM

I have it from a good source that this is a special "abuse telltale" indicator which was required by Brembo.

Apparently early on when GM wanted to get Brembo to help with the design, there was some resistance because of the notorious way that Camaro drivers like to drive their cars - to the absolute limit. And Brembo did not want to be on the hook for warranty work in the case where the brakes were abused. So part of the deal was for GM to develop a system which would detect any excessive abuse of the braking system.

Now as we all know, GM is hanging by a thread, and well they sort of forgot about this agreement until the last minute. Rather than delay the release of the car and spend all sorts of $$ on development, they came up with this ingenious last-minute fix.

If a hard stop is made from any speed above 140 MPH, the lead weights will melt, thereby indicating abuse of the system.

I have also heard that production has slowed due to a shortage of wheel weights.

franknbeans 04-20-2009 10:22 PM

what a crock of (*&*^. . . visually this looks horrible. . .

kdoske 04-20-2009 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teleplayer (Post 420395)
I have it from a good source that this is a special "abuse telltale" indicator which was required by Brembo.

Apparently early on when GM wanted to get Brembo to help with the design, there was some resistance because of the notorious way that Camaro drivers like to drive their cars - to the absolute limit. And Brembo did not want to be on the hook for warranty work in the case where the brakes were abused. So part of the deal was for GM to develop a system which would detect any excessive abuse of the braking system.

Now as we all know, GM is hanging by a thread, and well they sort of forgot about this agreement until the last minute. Rather than delay the release of the car and spend all sorts of $$ on development, they came up with this ingenious last-minute fix.

If a hard stop is made from any speed above 140 MPH, the lead weights will melt, thereby indicating abuse of the system.

I have also heard that production has slowed due to a shortage of wheel weights.


This may be the best urban legend ever created. I'm not saying your wrong but lead melts at 621.43 °F. I really don't think stopping at 140MPH would create that type of heat. Even if it did get that hot there would be no need for the lead because all kinds of other stuff would be melted for sure...

For the real answer look at my post, its 3 up....

Teleplayer 04-20-2009 10:30 PM

Actually 621 degrees F is nothing for brakes. A rotor can turn red hot with a hard stop, and for steel that is about 1500 deg. F at a color called "full cherry red". Don't EVER go up to a car and touch the rotor with your finger, because if the brake was recently used, you will leave the end of your fingertip on the rotor.

By the way, this is the reason the spare tire does not fit the SS model.

Douge 04-20-2009 10:32 PM

The only legitmate reason I can come up with and was mentioned above, is brake noise. Adding a small amount of mass to the caliper could do wonders for unwanted brake noise. Its a total jackoff fix if that is in fact what it is for, but I can't think of anything else.

Its certainly not going to damage anything to remove them and if they were on my car I would have removed them already.


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