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dangnplus 06-11-2013 01:49 PM

Keeping up with an 370z on my v6
 
K&n cool air intake & headers & cams. Will I be able to keep up with my brother 370z with those installed?

Scott 78 06-11-2013 01:51 PM

Is someone making Cams for the LFX?

nyrfan 06-11-2013 02:01 PM

How are you getting headers on a 2013 V6? Not possible and not like it would matter.

camaro-dreamer 06-11-2013 02:30 PM

You need to go FI to keep up or beat a 370z.

dangnplus 06-11-2013 02:34 PM

FI?

I don't want a turbo or supercharger.

nyrfan 06-11-2013 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dangnplus (Post 6657711)
FI?

I don't want a turbo or supercharger.

Well then you ain't keeping up.


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08-G35s/6MT 06-11-2013 02:37 PM

You are comparing low 13 second car to low 14 second car. He will put bus length on you easy.

scrming 06-11-2013 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott 78 (Post 6657525)
Is someone making Cams for the LFX?

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Originally Posted by nyrfan (Post 6657572)
How are you getting headers on a 2013 V6? Not possible and not like it would matter.

The 370Z has headers and cams...

nyrfan 06-11-2013 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by scrming (Post 6657781)
The 370Z has headers and cams...

Oh! That makes the question even funnier.


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DarkneSS 06-11-2013 02:50 PM

Bone stock 370z on average would put 2-3 lengths on a bolt on auto V6, you're going to get cracked.

snaphappy 06-11-2013 02:51 PM

Is there a site just dedicated to camaro street racing? It's pretty much all my daughter talks about when we drive around. She's 9 and is obsessed with which cars we can race and beat. Haha!

Biscuitpie 06-11-2013 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by snaphappy (Post 6657807)
Is there a site just dedicated to camaro street racing? It's pretty much all my daughter talks about when we drive around. She's 9 and is obsessed with which cars we can race and beat. Haha!

Idk. It's sad that we aren't allowed to talk about it here. Why does anyone care? Every other performance car forum has dedicated street racing sections.

DarkneSS 06-11-2013 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Biscuitpie (Post 6657923)
Idk. It's sad that we aren't allowed to talk about it here. Why does anyone care? Every other performance car forum has dedicated street racing sections.

I think a private section that you'd have to request to join would be reasonable. It would also increase site traffic so everyone kinda wins.

08-G35s/6MT 06-11-2013 03:56 PM

With full bolt ons(intake/exhaust) andg gears the 370z is mid 12 second car @ 111-113 mph

08-G35s/6MT 06-11-2013 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkneSS (Post 6658028)
I think a private section that you'd have to request to join would be reasonable. It would also increase site traffic so everyone kinda wins.


+1 The mods and admin probably had seizures and foamed at the mouth when they heard about the series "street outlaws"! I live in okc and had my accord dyno'd at chucks shop(the guy with goatee and white mustang).

SPARTAN sui 06-11-2013 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Biscuitpie (Post 6657923)
Idk. It's sad that we aren't allowed to talk about it here. Why does anyone care? Every other performance car forum has dedicated street racing sections.

It's illegal. Camaro5 is a huge community that does not want to be associated with an illegal activity. Take it to the track.

Personally I don't care, but I can see where they're coming from.

bowtieguyvegas 06-11-2013 04:50 PM

370 low 13 sec.
 
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Originally Posted by 08-G35s/6MT (Post 6657727)
You are comparing low 13 second car to low 14 second car. He will put bus length on you easy.

No stock 370 runs low 13 sec. here in vegas, maybe below sea level with a 30 mph wind:crazy:

Goober 06-11-2013 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Biscuitpie (Post 6657923)
Idk. It's sad that we aren't allowed to talk about it here. Why does anyone care? Every other performance car forum has dedicated street racing sections.


This site is owned and run by the Five-0.

Oh wait but they street race.

Biscuitpie 06-11-2013 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SPARTAN sui (Post 6658055)
It's illegal. Camaro5 is a huge community that does not want to be associated with an illegal activity. Take it to the track.

Personally I don't care, but I can see where they're coming from.

So is having longtube headers (even high flow cats won't pass in a lot of places), launching your car, flooring it at all (exhibition acceleration), green halos, lowering springs in some places, etc etc. The track is too far and too costly so no thanks.

omgitsmikeyC 06-11-2013 05:24 PM

The Camaro 6 has some serious potential for tuning, while the 370Z is almost completely tapped out tune wise for an engine. The Z motor is nearing the end of it's era, as they have to now turbo charge to get over that 420-430 HP bump after seriously modifying the engine. I know a lot of people who have tried, and blew the block because too much pressure and heat. The BMW motor has the same issue on the straight 6, only so much can be brought out before it becomes a time-bomb. Right about the same horsepower range as the Z also. Hell, they both have trouble running without being tuned :P

esponda 06-11-2013 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nyrfan (Post 6657572)
How are you getting headers on a 2013 V6? Not possible and not like it would matter.


RX Performance has ported heads and MACE Engineering makes camshafts for the v6. I've purchased the cams....just waiting :)

nyrfan 06-11-2013 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by esponda (Post 6658631)
RX Performance has ported heads and MACE Engineering makes camshafts for the v6. I've purchased the cams....just waiting :)

Ok, what does that have to do with headers.


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esponda 06-11-2013 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by nyrfan (Post 6658652)
Ok, what does that have to do with headers.


Sent from my 2SS/RS


Lol misread, pardon.

SC2150 06-11-2013 07:50 PM

Earlier post asked if there were cams for the LFX and yes, in stock.

08-G35s/6MT 06-12-2013 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bowtieguyvegas (Post 6658241)
No stock 370 runs low 13 sec. here in vegas, maybe below sea level with a 30 mph wind:crazy:


Well I did 13.6 in what basically amounts to the 4 door version of the 370z that weighs 400 lbs more and has a good 30 less hp and 2 less gears. bench racing ftw

Biscuitpie 06-12-2013 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 08-G35s/6MT (Post 6659990)
Well I did 13.6 in what basically amounts to the 4 door version of the 370z that weighs 400 lbs more and has a good 30 less hp and 2 less gears. bench racing ftw

I thought 370z was a 7 speed not an 8? (Going off the 6MT in your name)

08-G35s/6MT 06-12-2013 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Biscuitpie (Post 6660053)
I thought 370z was a 7 speed not an 8? (Going off the 6MT in your name)

Oh it's all good, just referring to my 07 g35 sport 5at

RedWingsZL1 06-12-2013 08:09 AM

As everyone should know by now. G35 will always be here to inform us that imports smoke camaro's.

His G35 is faster than my ZL1. It's depressing.

FaytalsCamaro 06-12-2013 09:45 AM

dont know what year your v6 is but if it has the LFX engine you cant get headers.

And considering the number 1 person on the v6 fast list for bolt ons comes in at 13.4 with DRs/Skinnies, Injen CAI, ARH Longtubes/High Flow Cats, SS Axle Back, Trifecta Tune. Outside of Force induction I'm going to have to hand it to the nissan

FaytalsCamaro 06-12-2013 09:46 AM

I apologize i misread your post, with cams I think you would stand a good chance

camaro-dreamer 06-12-2013 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by omgitsmikeyC (Post 6658371)
The Camaro 6 has some serious potential for tuning, while the 370Z is almost completely tapped out tune wise for an engine. The Z motor is nearing the end of it's era, as they have to now turbo charge to get over that 420-430 HP bump after seriously modifying the engine. I know a lot of people who have tried, and blew the block because too much pressure and heat. The BMW motor has the same issue on the straight 6, only so much can be brought out before it becomes a time-bomb. Right about the same horsepower range as the Z also. Hell, they both have trouble running without being tuned :P



The 370z has a lot of heat issues. Large aftermarket oil coolers are a must. In addition, there are certainly 370z's with more horsepower than any v6 camaro on this forum. However, the big problem is the torque. Even with twin turbos, I haven't seen any information on a z with more than 500 ft*lbs of torque. In addition, as you mentioned, tuning is a big problem. There are many more camaros than 370z's out there. There is less of an incentive to getting everything exactly right. Apparently, tuners can't get the VVEL tuning down,thus leaving power and durability on the table.

However, that being said, the z has a huge weight advantage. Basically, the camaro needs to be very highly modified (FI) to keep up with a bolt-on z without FI.

bowtieguyvegas 06-12-2013 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 08-G35s/6MT (Post 6659990)
Well I did 13.6 in what basically amounts to the 4 door version of the 370z that weighs 400 lbs more and has a good 30 less hp and 2 less gears. bench racing ftw

Well you must have a speical car cuz here they are mid 14 sec. at best stock. The 350z and 370z are not that fast here, must be the heat and bad Vegas air. :cool:

IBM camaro 06-12-2013 01:33 PM

There is a v6 twin turbo on this forum that made just over 600rwtq running 11s. Look at the FI dyno list and read his build Gretchen

bowtieguyvegas 06-12-2013 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RedWingsZL1 (Post 6660425)
As everyone should know by now. G35 will always be here to inform us that imports smoke camaro's.

His G35 is faster than my ZL1. It's depressing.

:sm0:

08-G35s/6MT 06-13-2013 01:01 AM

No bought I would bet my heads/cam $5k Camaro would give his $50k car a run for its money

dangnplus 06-13-2013 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by RedWingsZL1 (Post 6660425)
As everyone should know by now. G35 will always be here to inform us that imports smoke camaro's.

His G35 is faster than my ZL1. It's depressing.

How is his G35 faster than ur zl1 ....

PeeBee 06-13-2013 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dangnplus (Post 6664569)
How is his G35 faster than ur zl1 ....


...irony...

OmniCamaro 06-13-2013 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by dangnplus (Post 6664569)
How is his G35 faster than ur zl1 ....

I think he's calling him cretinous; between the lines of course. ;)

Z/Camaro 06-13-2013 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bowtieguyvegas (Post 6661455)
Well you must have a speical car cuz here they are mid 14 sec. at best stock. The 350z and 370z are not that fast here, must be the heat and bad Vegas air. :cool:


The reason you don't see the correct times in Vegas is because LV Motor speedway sucks. I too live in Vegas but I'm originally from California. Compared to the tracks in California the Vegas track is horrible. The prep on the track is the worst. Not to mention, Vegas is at a higher elevation than places that most magazines test cars. So yeah, in Vegas a 370z may run closer to high 13's but at sea level where cars are usually tested, it will run low 13's all day long. At a good track at sea level the 370z is good for 13.2-13.3 on average with some people even hitting 13.1.

So just because you don't see it happen in Vegas doesn't mean that it doesn't happen in other places. My old 06 LS2 Vette would only run 13.5 (on stock run flats), does that mean that LS2 Vettes only run mid 13's? Hell no, everyone knows they are good for 12.7-12.9 in stock form. My Camaro SS should run 12.9-13.1 but does it run that here in Vegas? Nope, much slower.

As for the OP's question, your V6 Camaro will have to be made as fast as the V8 Camaro in order to run with a 370z. Personally, rather than putting all that money into the V6 it would just be cheaper and easier to trade your car in for a V8. Bolt on's on the SS will leave the 370z in the dust.

bowtieguyvegas 06-14-2013 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Z/Camaro (Post 6668436)
The reason you don't see the correct times in Vegas is because LV Motor speedway sucks. I too live in Vegas but I'm originally from California. Compared to the tracks in California the Vegas track is horrible. The prep on the track is the worst. Not to mention, Vegas is at a higher elevation than places that most magazines test cars. So yeah, in Vegas a 370z may run closer to high 13's but at sea level where cars are usually tested, it will run low 13's all day long. At a good track at sea level the 370z is good for 13.2-13.3 on average with some people even hitting 13.1.

So just because you don't see it happen in Vegas doesn't mean that it doesn't happen in other places. My old 06 LS2 Vette would only run 13.5 (on stock run flats), does that mean that LS2 Vettes only run mid 13's? Hell no, everyone knows they are good for 12.7-12.9 in stock form. My Camaro SS should run 12.9-13.1 but does it run that here in Vegas? Nope, much slower.

As for the OP's question, your V6 Camaro will have to be made as fast as the V8 Camaro in order to run with a 370z. Personally, rather than putting all that money into the V6 it would just be cheaper and easier to trade your car in for a V8. Bolt on's on the SS will leave the 370z in the dust.


Yep that explains it, LVMS sucks, someone call and have them close the track down. :bow:370Z


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