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Just to be sure I know the answer is new z but maybe SS could hang also?
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It'd be interesting. Considering the 69 had approx the same amount of horses as a current SS and it being lighter, it may have the edge.
Putting racing tires on an SS I'd think the SS would win since suspension is much better than back then. Anyone has a '69 to text this theory? Lol |
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That's more apt to be a Gross hp rating on an ENGINE dyno, if that result is from the '69 era. TRACO T/A-Series 302s were generally considered to make around 450 @ the crank, back in the day. |
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http://youtu.be/VmnusGqIBeg |
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That's like asking if an F22 is faster than a P51 Mustang.
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Even a bone stock 2010 SS on street tires can can beat that old Boss 302: http://www.motortrend.com/features/l...ss_laguna_lap/ |
That's awesome. I wonder if the fe4 on 2012+ removed some of the under steer.
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To give you an idea, in the mid-'70s, 500" Pro Stock engines made less than 900, gross, while The Professor claims they're making mid-1400s today ... a 50% improvement. See the current (June '13) issue of Hot Rod Magazine for the interview. No data given on whether the current version, above, has the Cross BOSS/Autolite inline carbs that are mighty rare today, but were worth some extra ponies, back in the day. |
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A "mundane street car" from 2014 is not doing that even with new tire tech. Even if you put 10,000 hp to the mundane car's drive wheels it's not beating that old F1 racer on the public road track. Everything from ramp angles to bounce and rebound, to spring rate, to toe on all four corners to the number of clutches to the final drive and every gear split, to the brake bias and ride height were tuned on the F1 car for that track or could be tuned for it, as standard practice. In real practical use it was usually just the gear splits since teams showed up with not a lot of pit time to prep, but the new, mundane car just simply doesn't have the capability that old F1 cars has; if the new car can use it's whole capability then the old one can too I agree that a new car built for track use can and will surpass that old car given the tech available today. But the idea that an old race car is beat by everything that's new is not very accurate. I have no doubt that a 1967 Gurney-Welslake Eage F1 would present a real challenge to a new Z/28 or ZL-1 or new Corvette pick-your-alphabet-soup on that public road track, or on a purpose built track. The lack of aero on the old car would be the worst mark against it...but then again by 1969, F1 cars had aero, and then the turbo era cars in F1 were right around the corner |
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The SS and an SS/1LE would be a race. I think either of the current Z's will beat it handily. Then again this is just my uneducated/slightly informed opinion... :happy0180: |
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that's what I said: race cars are race cars, they are a different breed :) I'm responding, in much of that thing I posted, to this: "Technology has advanced so much that race cars of yesteryear can be outperformed by mundane street cars today. Modern track focused car will annihilate anything from 1969." That's a thing that I think can be very true, but it is not an automatic thing :thumbsup: |
I can't believe this an actual question/debate.
Do you think I would win a gun fight with a Nerf bat? |
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I think I misread your post and I was thinking that you were comparing the F1 cars for our conversation. I think (I may be wrong) that the old T/A racers were more akin to a street car. Kinda like what the Stock Cars used to be. Now they are a different animal all together. |
im thinking the new would beat the old
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Threw this together 1970 Boss Mustang trans am race car and stock 2010 Camaro SS
http://youtu.be/SS5HxMknVzA Split screen Laguna Seca |
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Nice video, but wayyyyyy too many variables.
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The interesting part is that both of these were run in 2009. My point is more the similarity in a 70s race car and an understeering 2010 SS. I would love to see an actual
run between the 69 70 TA cars and stock SS or if needed 1LE |
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