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Mr. Wyndham 08-25-2007 01:23 AM

TR-6060
 
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/02/07/chicago-auto-show-gm-rwd-fans-can-rejoice-for-the-pontiac-g8-h/

So I was goofing around the Web, when I came across the gear ratios for the TR-6060 found in the New Vette, and the soon to come G8...

So I plugged them into my Forza racing simulator Game (for kicks), and found some real interesting stuff.

First off, the TR-6060 is VERY similar in gearing to the Z51 gearing in the '07 Vettes. The first four gears are placed reasonably apart (on an LS2 vette), if a bit widely spaced...but then you get to the last 2 OD gears...when you go from a 6500 rpm red-line in 4th to 5th, your rpms drop right smack into the middle of the power band. Somewhere around 5800 - 6000, very nice. It's nuts, though, because - although this is just a game - it becomes pinfully obvious that even with the lower FDR, 6th gear becomes strictly an economy gear - from a 6500 redline in 5th you drop to almost 3800-4000 rpms. Not cool while racing at 180 mph...:D

again this IS just a game's simulation, but untill someone gets to tryout the
Nurburgring, or some Massive Tarmac (to get up that fast), I think this is as close as I'll ever get.

Here are the Ratio's of the T-56 vs. the TR-6060 and the Z51 tranny (in that order):

____T-56__TR-6060__Z51____

1 -- 2.66.......3.01......2.97
2 -- 1.78.......2.07......2.07
3 -- 1.30.......1.43......1.43
4 -- 1.00.......1.00......1.00
5 -- 0.74.......0.84......0.71
6 -- 0.50.......0.57......0.57

FDR..3.42.......3.27......3.42

I thought I'd share, whether anybody takes a games word for it, or not (I don't).

AirGoya 08-25-2007 10:37 AM

It is just a video game...
But you get an "A" for effort :thumbsup:

DGthe3 08-25-2007 11:09 AM

Isn't Forza supposed to be that ultra realistic racing simulator? Or am I thinking of something else? I know that there is one that came out a couple years ago that is basically the Flight Sim for racing.

Mr. Wyndham 08-25-2007 12:34 PM

Game or not, I kinda figured that something like that might happen, look at the step between 4th and 5th (.16), and then 5th and 6th (.27)....:eek:

TFord 08-25-2007 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGthe3 (Post 20860)
Isn't Forza supposed to be that ultra realistic racing simulator? Or am I thinking of something else? I know that there is one that came out a couple years ago that is basically the Flight Sim for racing.

Yup thats exactly what forza is, the cars in that game respond damn near exactly as they would in real life.

nice work dragon!

Mr. Wyndham 08-25-2007 05:01 PM

Thanks, :thumbsup:.
Respond exactly is right, except on grass. Get's real sticky in some random patches...but, :iono:

Still, I kinda like this TR-6060. If your going Highway cruising, it seems to be designed to skip 5th. just my 0.02.

If anybody ever gets to drive the '08 Vette, be sure to let us know what it's like, okay? ;)

Mr. Wyndham 08-31-2007 05:09 PM

I have to ask - and I'm asking honestly - does it bother anybody that the T-56, and TR-6060 aren't GM products?

JeepinMatt 08-31-2007 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragoneye (Post 21764)
I have to ask - and I'm asking honestly - does it bother anybody that the T-56, and TR-6060 aren't GM products?

Nope. It's a good transmission

TFord 09-01-2007 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeepinMatt (Post 21777)
Nope. It's a good transmission

ditto

AirGoya 09-01-2007 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGthe3 (Post 20860)
Isn't Forza supposed to be that ultra realistic racing simulator? Or am I thinking of something else? I know that there is one that came out a couple years ago that is basically the Flight Sim for racing.

I think Gran Turismo is one of the best. I have all four. Its called the real driving simulator so its gotta be good

TFord 09-01-2007 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AirGoya (Post 21856)
I think Gran Turismo is one of the best. I have all four. Its called the real driving simulator so its gotta be good


GT dosent do it for me....hell the original forza was a much better simulator than GT4. GT is severly lackin in every aspect to even be considered a true simulator....just my 2 cents :offtopic:

Dan 09-01-2007 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragoneye (Post 21764)
I have to ask - and I'm asking honestly - does it bother anybody that the T-56, and TR-6060 aren't GM products?

No, GM, Ford, and Chrysler all proved a long time ago they cant build a transmission worth a damn.

JeepinMatt 09-01-2007 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan (Post 21865)
No, GM, Ford, and Chrysler all proved a long time ago they cant build a transmission worth a damn.

Ahh I wouldn't go that far. As far as automatics, the General builds some of the best, strongest and most reliable ones out there. They have for years. Very popular in drag and off road racing. Chrysler's TorqueFlite is the same way. If it's strong enough for monster trucks, it's strong enough for a half tonner. Not as much experience with Ford, but those two are some of the most respected slushboxes around.

Mr. Wyndham 09-01-2007 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeepinMatt (Post 21870)
Ahh I wouldn't go that far. As far as automatics, the General builds some of the best, strongest and most reliable ones out there. They have for years. Very popular in drag and off road racing. Chrysler's TorqueFlite is the same way. If it's strong enough for monster trucks, it's strong enough for a half tonner. Not as much experience with Ford, but those two are some of the most respected slushboxes around.

Right! GM still makes Automatics of their own. And especially with this 6L80, it's one of the best there is! I was just surprised when heard that the Tremecs weren't made or designed by GM...:iono:


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