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JusticePete 06-14-2013 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SPCBA (Post 6669566)
I miss Oklahoma's pork.

Wont be at fest.. Needs to be like in west texas next year and I will go....prob stay for a week or two and try to hit up some tracks as much as I could. I have brothers wearing green there.

Next year I really want to do one lap of america just need to find a co driver and a way to bring tools and tires and clothes and etc etc

Texas would be a great place for a C5FEST.

One Lap of America... I envision a grass roots network of support from C5 members and vendors. UPS clothes in advance. Return soiled clothing the same way. Stage the tires. Tools and pit crews on standby across the entire route :headbang:

SPCBA 06-14-2013 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JusticePete (Post 6671011)
Texas would be a great place for a C5FEST.

One Lap of America... I envision a grass roots network of support from C5 members and vendors. UPS clothes in advance. Return soiled clothing the same way. Stage the tires. Tools and pit crews on standby across the entire route :headbang:

thatd be fricken sweet. i figure ill have to get a hitch installed :( then tow a trailer with extra wheels and tires brake pads fluids tools etc then have a bag for me and co driver in the shelf area in back seat.

been readin about the first gen guy doing that with his. push comes to shove i can overnight pretty much anything now a days

legacy 06-15-2013 03:29 PM

4100lbs? How much junk is actually in the trunk, isn't stock like ~3800? Do the power adders add that much weight?

JusticePete 06-15-2013 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by legacy (Post 6674058)
4100lbs? How much junk is actually in the trunk, isn't stock like ~3800? Do the power adders add that much weight?

Yep.

SPCBA 06-15-2013 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by legacy (Post 6674058)
4100lbs? How much junk is actually in the trunk, isn't stock like ~3800? Do the power adders add that much weight?

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Originally Posted by JusticePete (Post 6674430)
Yep.

power adders supporting mods and new block i was expecting a higher weight.

JusticePete 06-19-2013 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BullF-16 (Post 6646769)
Wow Pete, just saw this!!!

Awesome write up. I've been disposed as a range officer at my local USPSA club. The past 3 days i have been officiating 300 shooters from all around the country and globe for that matter. Just spent 12 hrs today in the Texas sun and wind and 10 hrs yesterday. Match, called Double Tap Championship, ends tomorrow at about 1400 hrs....hopefully. This match is usually the 2nd or 3rd biggest pistol match in the nation. I have to mow my damn yard still.

I will give a write up as to my experience with this latest update to my extraordinary experience with Pedders when i recover a bit later in the week. Let me say the car is on frickin rails, if thats possible for a 4112 lb car!!!! Mine is!!!

Here's a little clip from the DTC match a couple years ago when i was an Range officer on stage 2. You can see my fat arse at the 41 second mark and up to the minute mark on the video of one of the better shooters. My job was to check for safety infractions record the hits and time for scoring purposes. Im in the white shirt with the clipboard.....I love paperwork btw!!! Couldnt find any vids of this years so far or last years but didnt look real hard...time for motrin, beer and bed!!!!!!!!!


Bull,

We have to plan some time so you can teach me to fly and shoot :happy0180:

BullF-16 06-21-2013 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JusticePete (Post 6689489)
Bull,

We have to plan some time so you can teach me to fly and shoot :happy0180:

Sounds like a plan, you, in exchange, teach me how to drive this car the way it was built to drive.

I just finished replacing my oil cooler with an Earls unit that is about 40% bigger (16 ROW) and the car is running no hotter than about 220deg in city driving when before it would get to about 240-250 with the small 9 row cooler.

CTS-V brakes and dts 70 pads and i will be ready for my first track day at ECR.....yellow group....:laugh: Till i get checked out.

SPCBA 06-21-2013 08:58 PM

i must know how circut of america drives...when you going there?

madmaxx18 06-21-2013 08:58 PM

I've got cts-v brakes on order with rb brake rotors. Looking to possibly upgrade to to zl1 swaybars next and then get corner balanced. Would love to see Pete's shop!!! I really want to get my car set up to pull 1.3 G's...I don't know where to go from here I've bought everything I can think of to get set up per the book.

BullF-16 06-22-2013 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by madmaxx18 (Post 6699711)
I've got cts-v brakes on order with rb brake rotors. Looking to possibly upgrade to to zl1 swaybars next and then get corner balanced. Would love to see Pete's shop!!! I really want to get my car set up to pull 1.3 G's...I don't know where to go from here I've bought everything I can think of to get set up per the book.

Its not actually Pete's shop down in Fredericksberg, its the shop he uses and is 20 miles from Pedders. American Muffler and Brake. The rear ZL1 bar made a big difference over my Pedders FE3 32 mm bar. I love the camber plates BTW, takes about 2 minutes and Im at -2.7 deg camber.

I need to order the CTS-V brakes but am going with the CTS-V rotors per Pete's recommendation.

I've hit 1.46 Gs (measured on my Torque App) on a short radius 90 deg turn into my neighborhood. No push at all and only the slightest bit of looseness. The Pilot Super Sports and nice but not quite as grippy as my RE-11 Potenzas. Hopefully these will last longer.

caverman 06-22-2013 09:49 PM

Wow! nice Gs....

Aren't you worried about popping your side air bags? It's happened on a couple guys that road race. I think he said it was $3k to get them replaced at a dealer and he had to work hard to replace them on his own for $1.4k.

I pulled my air bag fuses at Eagles Canyon just in case. I would rather have piece of mind that they won't deploy. Just don't send your car off the track where you might actually need them.

JusticePete 06-22-2013 11:39 PM

Air bag deployment is very unusual on a road course. Very unusual. I know of only one instance and the data from the black box showed an extremely high G load indicative of a pending roll over. IMO, the G sensor glitched. My cars have 1,000s of test miles under extreme loads with no deployments on road courses.

The L/28 bags deployed on an autocross with a driveshaft failure. The shaft failure was incredibly violent with the resultant pounding tripping bag deployment.

If you watch the two videos of 5th Gen bag deployment, you'll see they occur under very aggressive tight maneuvers. IMO the computer was reading data that indicated a potential roll over. I don't consider these deployments accidental.

$3,000 is nothing in relation to a build like Bulls. A brush with a barrier, blown motor, tranny failure, and more easily equal or exceed a bag deployment repair. $3,000 is nothing compared to the injuries you may incur in a roll over or barrier road course incident. Three drivers died on track this week. Running road courses is a dangerous motorsport activity and sometimes expensive.

Bull,

I met a speaker years ago named Charlie Plumb. He spoke about the people that packed his physical parachute as well as his character, moral and spiritual parachutes. Many people had prepared him when he ejected from his jet over Viet Nam. In prison camp he met more parachute packers that helped him survive. Excuse me while I pack a small piece of your parachute. Please put your fuse back in.

SPCBA 06-23-2013 12:39 AM

keeping my air bags on...if they deploy good for them and probably will be thankful they do.

JusticePete 06-25-2013 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SPCBA (Post 6703596)
keeping my air bags on...if they deploy good for them and probably will be thankful they do.

:happy0180:

BullF-16 06-25-2013 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JusticePete (Post 6703487)
Air bag deployment is very unusual on a road course. Very unusual. I know of only one instance and the data from the black box showed an extremely high G load indicative of a pending roll over. IMO, the G sensor glitched. My cars have 1,000s of test miles under extreme loads with no deployments on road courses.

The L/28 bags deployed on an autocross with a driveshaft failure. The shaft failure was incredibly violent with the resultant pounding tripping bag deployment.

If you watch the two videos of 5th Gen bag deployment, you'll see they occur under very aggressive tight maneuvers. IMO the computer was reading data that indicated a potential roll over. I don't consider these deployments accidental.

$3,000 is nothing in relation to a build like Bulls. A brush with a barrier, blown motor, tranny failure, and more easily equal or exceed a bag deployment repair. $3,000 is nothing compared to the injuries you may incur in a roll over or barrier road course incident. Three drivers died on track this week. Running road courses is a dangerous motorsport activity and sometimes expensive.

Bull,

I met a speaker years ago named Charlie Plumb. He spoke about the people that packed his physical parachute as well as his character, moral and spiritual parachutes. Many people had prepared him when he ejected from his jet over Viet Nam. In prison camp he met more parachute packers that helped him survive. Excuse me while I pack a small piece of your parachute. Please put your fuse back in.


Pete, where did you get the idea that i removed my airbag fuse! thats like flying with my ejection seat pins still in:yikes:

JusticePete 06-25-2013 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BullF-16 (Post 6714594)
Pete, where did you get the idea that i removed my airbag fuse! thats like flying with my ejection seat pins still in:yikes:

:happy0180:

caverman 06-25-2013 05:14 PM

Yeah....I'm definitely not recommending people pull their fuses but I did after hearing a about a couple that had their side bags deploy. I didn't even know that it happened on the L/28 either.

I know user named bannonm on here had his deploy during a normal track use. He did say with stock wheels/tires he was okay but once he made that upgrade he got enough Gs in a turn to deploy the side bags. There was also a V6 car that had the same thing happen. I can't find that thread now but I did read it. Then there was the most notorious one of the guy doing doughnuts in his and they deployed.

With all that I decided I wanted to pull mine just to make sure they didn't deploy especially since they are so expensive and are not covered under warranty. Now that I've been out on a track I know that I would have to really push my car I doubt I would do it again. Right now my wheels/tires are definitely a weak point.


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