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ls2gto 06-18-2009 12:27 AM

SAE HP/Torque Curves for L99 & LS3
 
I just stumbled across the 2010 SAE certified horsepower and torque curves for the L99 and LS3 at media.gm.com. The L99 puts out more torque than the LS3 between 2000 and 4000 rpm. I imagine the VVT on the L99 has a lot to do with that. Combine that with the A6's lower first few gears and no wonder the L99 is rated quicker 0-60. Here are the links to the graphs:

http://media.gm.com/us/powertrain/en...amSS_SAE_n.pdf

http://media.gm.com/us/powertrain/en...amSS_SAE_n.pdf

Anyway, I have enjoyed my LS2 A4 GTO, but am looking forward to driving an L99 SS someday or year (my dealer says I might be able to test drive one by the end of the year- yeah, okay, at least I have my GTO for now).

zebra 06-18-2009 12:37 AM

wow. i'd've never expected that... nothing a nice cam can't fix ;)

kdoske 06-18-2009 03:06 AM

l99 is going to own the ls3 after mods start coming out for it.

linkwpc 06-18-2009 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kdoske (Post 595665)
l99 is going to own the ls3 after mods start coming out for it.

But with same mod that you pull on the L99, the LS3 will always be faster.

rpepka 06-18-2009 07:59 AM

Thats funny my L99 is MUCH slower then my 05 GTO! Took it to the dealer and they said everything is runing fine, but at the track it is atleast 3 10's slower if not more.

SGOS252382 06-18-2009 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by rpepka (Post 595891)
Thats funny my L99 is MUCH slower then my 05 GTO! Took it to the dealer and they said everything is runing fine, but at the track it is atleast 3 10's slower if not more.

But were the weather conditions the same? Right now in the heat and humidity times are going to be pretty slow. Were looking at a +2500 DA conditions at the track.

My 06 A4 GTO ran 13.3 @ 105 mph on a perfect 68 degree, low humidity day during the winter. In hot humid air, it could only manage high 13s @ 102 mph.


When the weather cools down and the humidity drops, I'm very confident I can equal or beat my best stock time in my GTO.

D1BADZ 06-18-2009 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by linkwpc (Post 595834)
But with same mod that you pull on the L99, the LS3 will always be faster.

:word:

Jekyll-N-Hyde 06-18-2009 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by rpepka (Post 595891)
Thats funny my L99 is MUCH slower then my 05 GTO! Took it to the dealer and they said everything is runing fine, but at the track it is atleast 3 10's slower if not more.


I still say Torque managment is your problem. I hate GM right now for Torque managment in every V8 Automatic.
Now we gotta deal with hmmmmmmm void my warranty and get a tune? or keep my Warranty and stay slow as hell?

Kyle2k 06-18-2009 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by linkwpc (Post 595834)
But with same mod that you pull on the L99, the LS3 will always be faster.

How so? It may make more POWER- but won't necessarily be faster...

kdoske 06-18-2009 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by linkwpc (Post 595834)
But with same mod that you pull on the L99, the LS3 will always be faster.

not after a tune my friend. The only thing holding the l99 back is the AFM, the less aggressive cam, and torque managment. Once you put in a new cam and then tune the L99 will be king. you could put the same cam and a similar tune in the LS3 and it won't have as good as a response.

the LS9 is the LS3 engine with VVT, i mean common that alone should sum it up.

ls2gto 06-18-2009 12:36 PM

I have been a fan of VVT ever since my 2005 CTS with an earlier 255 hp version of the 3.6 L V6 in the LT. That engine had tons of bottom end torque but still ran strong up to 6600 RPM.

The 0-60 times for my 05 A4 GTO and the L99 are both quoted at 4.6, but the Camaro is actually about 200 lbs heavier than the GTO. I also cannot help thinking the 20" wheels on the SS hurt it off the line some.

Croathlete 06-18-2009 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MellowYellow (Post 596490)
I still say Torque managment is your problem. I hate GM right now for Torque managment in every V8 Automatic.
Now we gotta deal with hmmmmmmm void my warranty and get a tune? or keep my Warranty and stay slow as hell?

Getting a tune is so damn tempting, but these cars are so new, who knows if we'll need to use our warranty for issues that haven't come up yet.

Decisions, decisions...how long is our warranty? 5 years?

SGOS252382 06-18-2009 03:28 PM

The LS3 will most likely make more HP (mod vs mod), but a higher stall converter on the automatic will easy equal the playing field.

Bolts ons + converter + sticky tires = very fast track times for the L99's.

SubSolar 06-25-2009 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SGOS252382 (Post 597362)
The LS3 will most likely make more HP (mod vs mod), but a higher stall converter on the automatic will easy equal the playing field.

Bolts ons + converter + sticky tires = very fast track times for the L99's.

I agree.


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