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KowalskiCamaro 09-10-2011 11:16 AM

My local dealer is selling new Z28's
 
The local Chevy dealer in my town is adding cold air intake, changing exhaust, adding aluminun head covers, tuning, and adding Z28 emblems and selling them on the lot with warranty. They are also claiming 530 hp from 426. The salesman started one up for me yesterday and man did that exhaust sound sweet. Does that increase in hp sound right?

ShnOmac 09-10-2011 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by KowalskiCamaro (Post 3736889)
The local Chevy dealer in my town is adding cold air intake, changing exhaust, adding aluminun head covers, tuning, and adding Z28 emblems and selling them on the lot with warranty.

:idiot:

Sarah 09-10-2011 11:37 AM

:sm0:

KowalskiCamaro 09-10-2011 11:47 AM

I'll get a picture the next time I ride by.

2cnd chance 09-10-2011 11:51 AM

Don't tell GM.

Fightinfire921 09-10-2011 12:14 PM

:(:mad0260::laugh::thumbdown::confused0068:
:bs::bonk::paddle::facepalm:
:sm0::mad0259::iono::laughabove:
:barf:



:whatz28:


That is total B.S. Please post pictures.

wildpaws 09-10-2011 12:47 PM

So your dealer is turning a questionable and unethical practice formerly perpetrated by lothsome individuals into a standard business practice that will leave some buyers with fake Z/28s. While the dealer may make a few dollars on this practice, I personally feel like the purchasers are getting totally screwed. Sure would like to see an end put to the practice by a dealer..........are you listening GM??
Clyde

arussh 09-10-2011 12:53 PM

As long as the customers buying the "Z-28" realize its a dealer put together
package and not a factory offering what's the harm?

SlowSS 09-10-2011 01:03 PM

defintely get some pics as soon as you can!! What is the name of the dealer they may have pics on their website

Fightinfire921 09-10-2011 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by arussh (Post 3737209)
As long as the customers buying the "Z-28" realize its a dealer put together
package and not a factory offering what's the harm?

:facepalm:

Juan S. V.-L. Ramirez 09-10-2011 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ShnOmac (Post 3736918)
:idiot:


yeah
take a look at this vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3U9LPSwlLM

gm made thousands of miles of testing and adjusting (call it tuning if you want) with a car that was supposed to be the Z28 (and will be sold as the ZL1 as we all know today)
a ZL1 is a highly sophisticated high performance (ready to race) sportscar (take a look at all what is done to the underpinnings, drivetrain, aerodynomics...)
and not just an Camaro SS with some bold on mods:facepalm:

it is not only supposed:rolleyes: horsepower, it is the complete package, which makes the difference

427camaro 09-10-2011 01:41 PM

Just wondering how much more $$ does he ask for the car ?

2cnd chance 09-10-2011 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arussh (Post 3737209)
As long as the customers buying the "Z-28" realize its a dealer put together
package and not a factory offering what's the harm?

I'm sure the dealer doesn't own the name Z28. Can you say trademark infringement?

MikeGstayUp 09-10-2011 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by arussh (Post 3737209)
As long as the customers buying the "Z-28" realize its a dealer put together
package and not a factory offering what's the harm?

:word: If you make it, they will come. lol

zkdreads 09-10-2011 06:08 PM

if you buy that car how would you explain to people its not really a Z28

oldfriend 09-10-2011 09:01 PM

Be aware that stupidity from a dealer is very contagious , specially late in the summer .

FINALLYSATISFIED 09-10-2011 10:07 PM

"We don't believe you, you need more people" Jay-Z

OldScoolCamaro 09-10-2011 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KowalskiCamaro (Post 3736889)
The local Chevy dealer in my town is adding cold air intake, changing exhaust, adding aluminun head covers, tuning, and adding Z28 emblems and selling them on the lot with warranty. They are also claiming 530 hp from 426. The salesman started one up for me yesterday and man did that exhaust sound sweet. Does that increase in hp sound right?

...get some pictures...and post them here...

Fightinfire921 09-10-2011 11:02 PM

WTF are they going to do when a real Z/28 comes out of hiding?

DGthe3 09-10-2011 11:45 PM

Theft of the Z28 name aside ... intake, exhaust, & tune, and they claim +104 hp? :facepalm:

96/10SS 09-11-2011 12:21 AM

ridiculous smh

Wvallediego 09-11-2011 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 96/10SS (Post 3739173)
ridiculous smh


I want one.....:drool:

I wondering how does the badgin look like?

slick rick 09-11-2011 07:32 AM

:sm0:

GEEo 09-11-2011 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ShnOmac (Post 3736918)
:idiot:

+1 :sm0:

Southern Comfort 09-11-2011 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Wvallediego (Post 3739506)
I want one.....:drool:

I wondering how does the badgin look like?

Would that be dealer performance package ZEE-28 ?
You could buy a base model and build your own. It will hold the same value as a dealer package, and you can brag about the customizations as your own idea.
Or wait for the real deal.

Buick1959 09-11-2011 07:55 AM

I can see the use of the name being BS but why can't the dealer do this? Isn't this what Yenko and Motion did back in the 60's and now those car cross the auction block with massive premiums? isn't it similar or am I missing something?

SteveRS 09-11-2011 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance (Post 3737008)
Don't tell GM.

too late.. black suburbans are already en route with Scott leading the posse:fbodgoul2:

SteveRS 09-11-2011 08:30 AM

i cant track down any dealer photos and i searched the OPs city lol

Overflow 09-11-2011 09:59 AM

:sm0:

slick rick 09-11-2011 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Buick1959 (Post 3739607)
I can see the use of the name being BS

That's what we're commenting about....

coolman 09-11-2011 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buick1959 (Post 3739607)
I can see the use of the name being BS but why can't the dealer do this? Isn't this what Yenko and Motion did back in the 60's and now those car cross the auction block with massive premiums? isn't it similar or am I missing something?

The difference is guys like Yenko made their own name by what they where doing with cars. This dealer is using a name that is trademarked by GM and he really has no right to put it on a car and sell it. I'd be surprised if that dealer doesn't get into trouble for using that name.

slick rick 09-11-2011 10:22 AM

Are you sure it wasn't a Z/38

http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/P4181425.jpg
http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/P4181426.jpg

wildpaws 09-11-2011 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buick1959 (Post 3739607)
I can see the use of the name being BS but why can't the dealer do this? Isn't this what Yenko and Motion did back in the 60's and now those car cross the auction block with massive premiums? isn't it similar or am I missing something?

You are missing a few things. Yenko, Balwin, etc. were not slapping GM's emblems on a Camaro and calling it that, they were Yenko versions, Baldwin versions, etc. If this dealer in SC wants to do this, call it a special version by "dealer name", not call it a Z/28. What this dealer is doing is totally wrong, unethical, and unlawful. I for one would hope that the dealer will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the applicable laws.
Clyde

nak3dsnake 09-11-2011 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by wildpaws (Post 3740358)
You are missing a few things. Yenko, Balwin, etc. were not slapping GM's emblems on a Camaro and calling it that, they were Yenko versions, Baldwin versions, etc. If this dealer in SC wants to do this, call it a special version by "dealer name", not call it a Z/28. What this dealer is doing is totally wrong, unethical, and unlawful. I for one would hope that the dealer will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the applicable laws.
Clyde

:thumbsup: Those were custom dealer versions of the Camaro. Not fake production Z/28s the dealer is using to rip people off.

Shu71 09-11-2011 04:51 PM

The VIN, build sheet and proof documents will not show it as a GM Z/28 so aside from the emblems, it's just a stage 1 intake and exhaust package probably using the GM Performance parts for that to boot. I'd love to see the window sticker and supplemental package options sticker and how they state Z/28. They shouldn't use the Z/28 emblems or RPO code on anything. If they do, it would be on the deceptive side. Same way I feel clone cars are deceptive. It is buyer beware though.

KowalskiCamaro 09-15-2011 12:48 PM

http://www.bobbywoodchevy.com/Vehicl...earch=preowned

Scroll down to the 1ss camaro. Used 2011 orange with about 10,000 miles on it. Check out all 24 photos. Also, I didn't buy my 2010 Camaro from this dealer. It just happens to be the closest one to where I live.

KowalskiCamaro 09-15-2011 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveRS (Post 3739673)
i cant track down any dealer photos and i searched the OPs city lol

Obviously you weren't very thorough.:thumbsup:

KowalskiCamaro 09-15-2011 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by WYKOFF69Z (Post 3737086)
:(:mad0260::laugh::thumbdown::confused0068:
:bs::bonk::paddle::facepalm:
:sm0::mad0259::iono::laughabove:
:barf:



:whatz28:


That is total B.S. Please post pictures.


NOT BS my friend.

Fightinfire921 09-15-2011 12:55 PM

Not dealer appointed but used.

Shu71 09-15-2011 12:55 PM

That is a used Camaro that the previous owner put some Z/28 emblems on. What led you to believe this was a dealer installed option?


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