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ZL1-V 05-24-2013 08:44 PM

Pedders on my ZL1
 
Okay I have a few pics I snapped today of the car after being lowered. The ride height was lowered 1" around. It was subtle at first, just barely noticeable but when side by side with another Camaro or now even entering my driveway you notice it immediately!

The original thread.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=297221


Left profile
http://imageshack.us/a/img22/4118/ow2r0625.jpg


Left front
http://imageshack.us/a/img266/9286/ow2r0630.jpg


Left rear
http://imageshack.us/a/img842/3945/ow2r0628.jpg



Front ground level
http://imageshack.us/a/img38/6459/ow2r0637.JPG



Right profile
http://imageshack.us/a/img46/4315/ow2r0638.jpg

USMC Anti Venom 05-24-2013 08:48 PM

nice what else is in store?

2012-1822 05-24-2013 08:51 PM

Looks good. So I'm curious as to what adjustments also had to made when you dropped it

Deke736 05-24-2013 09:35 PM

Looks good! I really go back and forth about lowering mine, but when and if I decide to do it I will go with the Pedders kit. Yours looks great!

armysig 05-25-2013 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 2012-1822 (Post 6585813)
Looks good. So I'm curious as to what adjustments also had to made when you dropped it


I have Springs and bushings done, all I needed was an alignment done to all 4 positions. Any good shop can do it for under $150.00

t&t moyer 05-25-2013 02:03 AM

Hotness!!!!

ZL1-V 05-25-2013 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by USMC NV ZL1 (Post 6585803)
nice what else is in store?

Thanks, I will be adding more suspension bushings on the rear and maybe Pedders sway bars later. I still need to install SS brake lines that I just received from Racing Brake. Next major addition is Status seats and a cage.

ZL1-V 05-25-2013 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2012-1822 (Post 6585813)
Looks good. So I'm curious as to what adjustments also had to made when you dropped it


The major factor is a proper alignment on all 4 wheels after the car is lowered. The car gives feedback now and feels much more balanced now thru a turn.

ZL1-V 05-25-2013 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deke736 (Post 6585992)
Looks good! I really go back and forth about lowering mine, but when and if I decide to do it I will go with the Pedders kit. Yours looks great!

Thanks Deke, It is worth it! I had been putting it off for awhile. :D

joes407 05-25-2013 06:09 AM

it looks great but i dont think id be able to go 1 more inch lower. we have stupid florida drains and the biggest friggin speedbumps in the country. i just couldnt imagine being any lower or id have no splitter.

silver surfer ZL1 05-25-2013 06:47 AM

what bushings were actually replaced? thanks

davidcroft 05-25-2013 06:49 AM

I was under the impression the factory magnetic ride didn't like anything lower than 3/4 of an inch:iono:
But then what do I know, I'm just a 1LE troll:smiling1:

ZL1Naboz 05-25-2013 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2012-1822 (Post 6585813)
Looks good. So I'm curious as to what adjustments also had to made when you dropped it

So were any adjustments needed for the ride controls? based on looking at mine a lowered car would change the ride position of the sensors on each corner and perhaps the range?? don't know if that would effect it's ability to react to the road situation??

armysig 05-25-2013 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ZL1Naboz (Post 6587027)
So were any adjustments needed for the ride controls? based on looking at mine a lowered car would change the ride position of the sensors on each corner and perhaps the range?? don't know if that would effect it's ability to react to the road situation??

You get new ride hieght contol bars with the kit. Very easy to remove and install.

ZL1-V 05-25-2013 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by joes407 (Post 6586850)
it looks great but i dont think id be able to go 1 more inch lower. we have stupid florida drains and the biggest friggin speedbumps in the country. i just couldnt imagine being any lower or id have no splitter.

I did some research and was told it seems to be the consensus that more than 1" and you are asking for clearance problems. I now have to slow down and angle on driveways with deep aprons that I did not before to save the splitter. It's not a problem. :nod:

ZL1-V 05-25-2013 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by silver surfer ZL1 (Post 6586909)
what bushings were actually replaced? thanks

http://imageshack.us/a/img211/5056/8...fa3f2ec55b.jpg

The sealed package in the picture are the bushings for the front radius arms. Next, the bushings on the far right in the picture are for the front portion of the rear subframe, the bushings above the radius arm package are the rear bushings. There are six total you can replace on the rear subframe. I replaced the main four that connect the subframe to the car. Huge difference in the feel of the rear end now!

ZL1-V 05-25-2013 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by armysig (Post 6587333)
You get new ride hieght contol bars with the kit. Very easy to remove and install.

I thought the same until Pete corrected me in a PM I had sent him before the install. Pete stated they are re-used. I did not need use new ride height arms. PFADT is the same.

hawk02 05-25-2013 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ZL1-V (Post 6587421)
I did some research and was told it seems to be the consensus that more than 1" and you are asking for clearance problems. I now have to slow down and angle on driveways with deep aprons that I did not before to save the splitter. It's not a problem. :nod:

I'd love to lower mine, but have I have a rolled curb apron at the end of my driveway. I purchased a Bridjit curb ramp and still barely miss scrapping the bottom of the splitter when I leave and enter the driveway. No way could I lower an inch and not have some major clearance issues with my drive.

ZR1/2SS 05-25-2013 01:17 PM

Lookin good! Who did the install?

armysig 05-25-2013 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZL1-V (Post 6587461)
I thought the same until Pete corrected me in a PM I had sent him before the install. Pete stated they are reused. I did not need use new ride height arms. PFADT is the same.

Really? I guess my proto type kit is different than what he offers. Looks like my setup is different than yours.

ZL1-V 05-25-2013 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ZR1/2SS (Post 6587878)
Lookin good! Who did the install?


Thank you. It was Haddad Motorsports. They did 3 other ZL1's prior to adding mine in the mix. :thumbup:

Oh by the way, when are we going to meet up?

ZL1-V 05-25-2013 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by armysig (Post 6587898)
Really? I guess my proto type kit is different than what he offers. Looks like my setup is different than yours.


PM from Pete regarding the rods!

"You don't discard the rods. You'll re-use them. Foundational bushes are covered. Lowering covered. Did we upgrade to Pedders 27/32 Z bars"?

tpower 05-25-2013 03:41 PM

Looks awesome welcome to the Pedders family

ZR1/2SS 05-25-2013 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZL1-V (Post 6587988)
Thank you. It was Haddad Motorsports. They did 3 other ZL1's prior to adding mine in the mix. :thumbup:

Oh by the way, when are we going to meet up?

Haddad and Pedders is a good combo, I used both when I had my GTO.

I've yet to ride in a ZL1 so if you're offering then I accept! :thumbup:

ZL1-V 05-25-2013 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tpower (Post 6588262)
Looks awesome welcome to the Pedders family

Thanks, I'm really liking it! Not propaganda at all, the stuff works. :thumb:

zl1bro 05-26-2013 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ZL1-V (Post 6588600)
Thanks, I'm really liking it! Not propaganda at all, the stuff works. :thumb:

Love the looks of your car man. Even more interested in the set up now that I hear that it improves handling. Only question for me is who is capable of doing the install in the Boston area. Wonder if Janetty in CT does this. Anyone know?

Sharp-ZL1 06-03-2013 03:31 AM

Which lowering Kit
 
I am looking at lowering my ZL1 1 inch.

Need help in figuring out which would be better.

Pedders, Eibach, Pfasdt, or MSR.

Will be on the ring maybe one time, 1/4 mile one time and then mostly highway and cruises.

High speeds on the Germany Autobahn until I return to the states.

Which one will give the same or better handling without having a real harsh ride. I know I can't have one with out the other.

Thank you for your assistance.
Jim

tpower 06-03-2013 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharp-ZL1 (Post 6621750)
I am looking at lowering my ZL1 1 inch.

Need help in figuring out which would be better.

Pedders, Eibach, Pfasdt, or MSR.

Will be on the ring maybe one time, 1/4 mile on time then mostly highway and cruises.

High speeds on the Germany Autobahn until I return to the states.

Which one will give the same or better handling without have a real harsh ride. I know can't have one with out the other.

Thank you for your assistance.
Jim

in tour mode you can hardly tell the difference. very nice ride, the wife and I went 13 hours almost straight good ride

JusticePete 06-03-2013 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZL1-V (Post 6587430)
http://imageshack.us/a/img211/5056/8...fa3f2ec55b.jpg

The sealed package in the picture are the bushings for the front radius arms. Next, the bushings on the far right in the picture are for the front portion of the rear subframe, the bushings above the radius arm package are the rear bushings. There are six total you can replace on the rear subframe. I replaced the main four that connect the subframe to the car. Huge difference in the feel of the rear end now!

ZL1,

We already did this on Facebook, but it isn't official until we do it on C5. Thank you for choosing Mike Haddad, Haddad Motorsports and Pedders for your ZL1. We appreciate your business. Welcome to the PEDDERS NATION!

Quote:

Originally Posted by armysig (Post 6587333)
You get new ride height control bars with the kit. Very easy to remove and install.

You are special :D We now use the OEM rods.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZR1/2SS (Post 6588421)
Haddad and Pedders is a good combo, I used both when I had my GTO.

I've yet to ride in a ZL1 so if you're offering then I accept! :thumbup:

Thank you for the kind words.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tpower (Post 6621828)
in tour mode you can hardly tell the difference. very nice ride, the wife and I went 13 hours almost straight good ride

Tim,

Even with the winter lay-up I think you may have more miles on your ZL1 than anyone.

Lethal Z 06-03-2013 02:22 PM

Looks good! :happy0180:

armysig 06-03-2013 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JusticePete (Post 6623192)
You are special :D We now use the OEM rods.

I see how it is...Well if I'm a lab rat :crazy:, count me in for more tests! :happyanim: I love how the car handles.

thespymaster 06-04-2013 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by armysig (Post 6623682)
I see how it is...Well if I'm a lab rat :crazy:, count me in for more tests! :happyanim: I love how the car handles.

I was TRACK RAT #1 :pound:

You can really tell the difference on the track PEDDERS vs STOCK

JusticePete 06-04-2013 03:59 PM

Track Rat sounds much better.

thespymaster 06-04-2013 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JusticePete (Post 6628545)
Track Rat sounds much better.

Might be my new Az plate :biggrin:

armysig 06-04-2013 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thespymaster (Post 6628393)
I was TRACK RAT #1 :pound:

You can really tell the difference on the track PEDDERS vs STOCK

Fully agree, I have had other ZL-1 owners in my car and they can't believe how much better it handles compaired to theirs.

zl1bro 06-04-2013 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by armysig (Post 6628850)
Fully agree, I have had other ZL-1 owners in my car and they can't believe how much better it handles compaired to theirs.


When do you notice the difference the most? How would you describe it?

Is the improvement primarily due to the lowering springs, the bushings or the sways? Was thinking of just throwing on a set of sways if that makes sense..

armysig 06-04-2013 08:04 PM

I have springs and bushings. No sway bars (yet). The car feels like it hugs the road even more on corners and sharp turns, with it in one of the PTMs its almost as if the car doesn't have to work as hard.
This upgrade just gives a sense of more control over the car.

thespymaster 06-04-2013 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zl1bro (Post 6629766)
When do you notice the difference the most? How would you describe it?

Is the improvement primarily due to the lowering springs, the bushings or the sways? Was thinking of just throwing on a set of sways if that makes sense..

My .02 cents , is difference on launch on the strip !

I have the full Pedders ZL1 race suspension upgrade (bushings / coil overs /sway bars )

It doesn't sway and feels seated to the ground more ! I bet a video of stock vs Pedderized ZL1 side by side on strip you would see the difference !

At last years Camaros for Heroes event , my only performance mod was Peddders and I beat all those stock ZL1's that went against me !

zl1bro 06-04-2013 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by armysig (Post 6629792)
I have springs and bushings. No sway bars (yet). The car feels like it hugs the road even more on corners and sharp turns, with it in one of the PTMs its almost as if the car doesn't have to work as hard.
This upgrade just gives a sense of more control over the car.

Those comments just cost me a lot of money, LOL.. Damn I want this set up. Improvement in looks is awesome side benefit also..

ZL1-V 06-04-2013 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by armysig (Post 6629792)
I have springs and bushings. No sway bars (yet). The car feels like it hugs the road even more on corners and sharp turns, with it in one of the PTMs its almost as if the car doesn't have to work as hard.
This upgrade just gives a sense of more control over the car.



The addition of springs and bushings now allows me to feel the car give feedback thru a turn. Much more feedback from the tires and it tracks smoothly with it's initial turn-in when entering a corner. I have not added thicker sway bars yet. You can feel it the first time you enter a turn.:biggrin:


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