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kelley@vectormotorsports 04-01-2010 09:22 AM

Vector Vararam "Tune Only" Testing Tomorrow (UPDATED)
 
Well, we have our tune only Vararam and we have a car. We just need some open dyno time. Our first open slot is tomorrow at 2:00.

I will keep you posted on the numbers we get! After some drive time the custom tune will be available.

Jeanius 04-01-2010 09:45 AM

:thumbsup:

EvoWake 04-01-2010 11:19 AM

:popcorn:

newagemuscle 04-01-2010 01:59 PM

I'll try to post a video guys. This will be my babies first time on a dyno. She has just over 400 miles on her. See you the Kirk.

Icntdrv55 04-02-2010 11:13 AM

are you done yet are you done yet are you done yet??

Gnarlygianni 04-02-2010 12:30 PM

im excited M6?

DustinK 04-02-2010 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gnarlygianni (Post 1668831)
im excited M6?

newagemuscle lists M6 and a Hurst ST in his signature so that's a safe bet :)

Sawyer 04-02-2010 02:28 PM

:popcorn:

LS3SSRS 04-02-2010 03:06 PM

:popcorn:

Jeanius 04-02-2010 03:42 PM

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

SGOS252382 04-02-2010 04:12 PM

Anyone know how the test was to be conducted?

Stock numbers
Tuned numbers
Tuned with Vararam

Just wondering.

:popcorn:

newagemuscle 04-02-2010 05:22 PM

Testing is done and went well. Kirk will be posting the official numbers. I believe he will also be posting a video.

Icntdrv55 04-02-2010 05:29 PM

OMG.......COME ON gives us SOMETHING.....ANYTHING!

Jeanius 04-02-2010 05:30 PM

Was all testing done on the dyno?

wbt 04-02-2010 09:56 PM

--taps foot--

Jeanius 04-02-2010 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wbt (Post 1670716)
--taps foot--

Yea really...



Newagemuscle stop holdin out!!

:mad0259: :mad0259: :mad0259: :mad0259:

Merc 04-02-2010 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirk@VectorMotorsports (Post 1663940)
Well, we have our tune only Vararam and we have a car. We just need some open dyno time. Our first open slot is tomorrow at 2:00.

I will keep you posted on the numbers we get! After some drive time the custom tune will be available.


Pretty sure I am going with your tune at some point in time.

LS3
ARH 1 7/8 LT with Cats
Vararam CAI ( still waiting)

Keep me posted on Dyno results.:thumbsup:

newagemuscle 04-03-2010 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icntdrv55 (Post 1669772)
OMG.......COME ON gives us SOMETHING.....ANYTHING!

OK, here is something...
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/pictur...ictureid=21168

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/pictur...ictureid=21169

94guy 04-03-2010 09:58 AM

i saw a car at the track wed. night with that intake and a tune. L99 car it ran 12.85@109. not super great but good. i had the adm race version with no tune and ran 12.85@109.

SGOS252382 04-03-2010 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 94guy (Post 1671769)
i saw a car at the track wed. night with that intake and a tune. L99 car it ran 12.85@109. not super great but good. i had the adm race version with no tune and ran 12.85@109.


Do you also have an L99?

SGOS252382 04-03-2010 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newagemuscle (Post 1671743)

We know what a Car with a Vararam intake looks like. What's the big secret? :iono:

I'm dynoing my car with a Vararam intake on Tuesday. I don't see a reason to keep the information from anyone.

mlee 04-03-2010 10:49 AM

Something is not right here... Unbiased...:iono:

Jeanius 04-03-2010 11:02 AM

Did u remove the wickerbill?

94guy 04-03-2010 11:31 AM

yes i do.

Ject 04-03-2010 11:39 AM

Finally!

kelley@vectormotorsports 04-03-2010 11:49 AM

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Sorry for the delay. The testing took a while and I wanted to get all of the data together.

The LS3 Camaro just had in the mid 400's on the odometer and had never seen WOT. We certainly fixed that.

We believe we now have the Vararam "tune only" CAI nailed. There are no driveablilty issues and the A/F ratios dialed right in.

The car came in with a CAI on it already so I do not have a stock baseline for this vehicle. He is going to put the stock air box back on and we will dyno it again to get a good stock number.

We ended up with 384 HP & 380 TQ. We have seen low mileage LS3's dyno stock around 355 HP. This is a Mustang Dynamometer using SAE correction factor.

Our tune customers with the "tune only" Vararam should send me an email asking to be upgraded to the new calibration. Send all emails to kirk@vectormotorsports.com

YouTube Link -


Ject 04-03-2010 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirk@VectorMotorsports (Post 1672054)
Our tune customers with the "tune only" Vararam should send me an email asking to be upgraded to the new calibration. Send all emails to kirk@vectormotorsports.com

Even us L99 people?

kelley@vectormotorsports 04-03-2010 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ject (Post 1672067)
Even us L99 people?

Yes. The major changes are going to be the same on both engines. We have a L99 coming in to test on shortly and will let you know if there are any changes. I don't think so though, mainly air flow and decell timing.

SGOS252382 04-03-2010 01:51 PM

No baseline = :iono:

I'm still waiting to see a bone stock car dynoed before and after a Vararam intake install. Is that too much too ask?

towmoe 04-03-2010 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SGOS252382 (Post 1672335)
No baseline = :iono:

I'm still waiting to see a bone stock car dynoed before and after a Vararam intake install. Is that too much too ask?

+1

Jeanius 04-03-2010 04:39 PM

Kirk was this with the bottom/sides of the wicker bill removed?

wbt 04-03-2010 04:52 PM

Thanks for posting. Still looking like the Vararam is no better than the other good CAI's on the market for gains.

Icntdrv55 04-03-2010 06:24 PM

Kirk

By now you have tested MANY CAI's with your tune. Do you believe any one CAI works any better WITH YOUR TUNE that any other??
I just bought your tune for my L99 and am getting ready to get a Vararam but would like to know if you think there is a better CAI that works with your tune!

Ject 04-03-2010 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icntdrv55 (Post 1673036)
Kirk

By now you have tested MANY CAI's with your tune. Do you believe any one CAI works any better WITH YOUR TUNE that any other??
I just bought your tune for my L(( and am getting ready to get a Vararam but would like to know if you think there is a better CAI that works with your tune!

:word:

Johnwayne 04-03-2010 08:40 PM

ONLY 380ish:clap:

they wont do a base line because they guarantee 30+ RWHP which is total BS! I think vararam is taking advantage of people everyday with just piss poor service for a even worse product that was thrown together and changed on the fly. there are a bunch of happy customers but there are way too many horror stories and unhappy customers. they are no different than K&N and if you put that on your car it wont buck at all OR throw a code.

Bell040 04-03-2010 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnwayne (Post 1673449)
ONLY 380ish:clap:

they wont do a base line because they guarantee 30+ RWHP which is total BS! I think vararam is taking advantage of people everyday with just piss poor service for a even worse product that was thrown together and changed on the fly. there are a bunch of happy customers but there are way too many horror stories and unhappy customers. they are no different than K&N and if you put that on your car it wont buck at all OR throw a code.

384.....

with a 355 baseline... on a mustang dyno.... :burnrubber:

wbt 04-03-2010 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bell040 (Post 1673596)
384.....

with a 355 baseline... on a mustang dyno.... :burnrubber:

They did not get a baseline. The statement was since no baseline run was conducted, taking the low end of the LS3 dyno numbers and comparing that to the Vararam AND a tune they came up with 384. It is just speculation as to the baseline. It could have been 370 or it could have been 340. Who knows.

Take the results provided and compare intake to intake testing WITHOUT a tune and again the Vararam is no better than any of the other top CAI's on the market such as:

CAI
Roto-Fab
ADM
Halltech

This is the point everyone should be considering. Everyone has a choice and it really boils down to what you are comfortable with. An intake that requires no tune to correct LTFT or an intake that requires a tune to get dialed in. :thumbsup:

SwiftCat 04-03-2010 11:07 PM

I hate to say it, but I sure am glad I sold my unit and went instead with an ADM race. The Vararam definitely gives awesome gains, but it just feels so pieced together. It's pretty sad when a guy has to come on the forum just to figure out what bolt goes where. Hopefully things will get smoothed out in the future, but until then I'll stick with more "application" engineering and less "theoretical." On a lighter note, I'm sure that Kirk will find every ounce of HP/TQ that can be sucked (pun intended :laugh:) out of the Vararam units.
Good luck fellas.
Swifty :chevy:

Jeanius 04-03-2010 11:22 PM

1) What CAI did you have on it when it came in, did you dyno it with that CAI?

2) Were the Bottom/Sides of the wicker-bill removed for the tune?

3) When are you putting the stock box back on and getting the baseline dyno?

4) What are your impressions of this set up VS the other CAI you had on before?

Bell040 04-04-2010 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wbt (Post 1673952)
They did not get a baseline. The statement was since no baseline run was conducted, taking the low end of the LS3 dyno numbers and comparing that to the Vararam AND a tune they came up with 384. It is just speculation as to the baseline. It could have been 370 or it could have been 340. Who knows.

......

I have to think Kirk knows the average stock LS3 to better than +/-15HP on his dyno. After all, he does do this for a living.

Thanks Kirk!!


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