will there be a Z28 Camaro
 

i've been wondering if Chevrolet was ever going to come out with a z28 camaro but since the ZL1 came out my hopes for a Z28 is low, so what do yall rhink should there be a Z28 camaro or not

I def think there should be a Z28.... and I have faith that we will soon see one.

If not my name is pretty stupid haha! :) ;)

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128453

Should see it one or two model years before the body/engine changes. (The opinion expressed here is in now way related to any insider information)

moved to the Z28 section...

Was it that hard to find??

Camaro Z28 Forum - Z28 Specific Topics

I can't see there not being one. I just hope its everything we have dreamed of.

If GM does decide to do a Z28, about the earliest we'll hear about it is after the ZL1 gets launched.

I think there should be one, and there are a number of us on Camaro5 that feel the basics for a Z28 should be an LS7 Camaro with an upgraded suspension. Others have other views, but that seems to be the most popular, followed closely by a car with an upgraded LS3 of some sort (again, with an upgraded suspension)

It's been said before from the GM brass to expect something new every 6 months. Since the vert is out and the ZL1 is due 1st of the year, I would expect sometime in the 2013 model year. My guess they'll finalize the new Corvette and the 5.5L V8 before annoucing plans for the Z28.

The ZL1 is your Z28 for now, like it or not. How much different could a Z28 be from a ZL1? If there will be a Z28 you wont see it untill the 2nd or 3rd year of GEN6.

Yes.

:word: Welcome, to all!

One thought to keep in mind: Gen-5 Camaro is the ONLY generation NOT to have a "Z/28"...

So far... :D

Since it is expected for the 6 gen camaro to come out model year 2016, then heck yes there should be a Z28. Personally I am guessing that GM will make it for the 2014 model year.

I would bet there will be a 5th gen Z28. It may be a limited car but there has been a Z28 produced in every generation. It is too important of a nameplate and judging by the fact that the S/C Camaro is named the ZL1 which has less name recognition would lead me to believe there will be another 5th gen trim called the Z28. IMO it will be like a Grand Sport. Borrow parts from the ZL1 such as wheels, brakes and maybe some suspension and come with a warmed over dry sump LS3 for road racing. Both Pfadt and Peddars are GM approved suppliers. Also there is a little car called the SSX that may be a preview.

People keep quoting "the 5.5L" when in all likelihood, there won't be a 5.5L in the lineup. The 5.5L is a race engine only and its displacement has absolutely nothing to do with the gen V small blocks. When AMLS first restricted the displacement, production corvettes didn't all of a sudden drop down to a 6.0L LS7 in the Z06.

The next gen engines will almost certainly range from under 5L to over 6L, depending on the application.

Oh yes there will be a 5Gen Z28. I know this for sure because... and you can't get closer to the truth than that!

Yes, but you will hear nothing about it until the ZL1 has been launched and had it's day in the sun. :)

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Come on splash down!!

It's not a camaro with out a Z28. . .

ZL1 is great and all.
heck even the SS is great.
But z28 is camaro. it has been around since Gen 1. this is the first generation with out a Z28...so far.

And that just ain't right

I think it would be a shame for them not to build a Z/28 in this generation. They took a big chance by bringing back the Camaro in the first place and they hit a homerun. They need to capitalize on the success of this model and build a street ready road course racer. I also think that they're waiting to see how the ZL1 sells, and how the other Camaros keep selling before they make a decision. They can always keep working on future models and have them close to ready and decide later when they should release them.

I feel the same way DG. My take from the discussions held on the board is that GM wants all the claps of thunder to go to the ZL1. That is deservedly so IMHO. An enormous amount of energy, time, money and effort went into the project. A cobbled together Z-28 using the GM parts bin with potential aftermarket joint collaboration has much potential and is intriguing. There is a good argument with support behind it. But, from a business point of view as noted by Number 3, it would not be a good marketing decision to release the Z-28 around the same time frame as the ZL1. After the ZL1 runs it course for a year or so, hopefully we will finally see the Gen5 Z-28 take it's place in the lineup. There would be no reason not to as I see it, for we have always had a Z-28 in every generation. :thumbsup: :chevy:

i'll believe it when i see it.

Saw an SS at the golf course the other day, the owner had taken off the SS badges and put Z28 Badges on... I guess once you label something, it becomes the thing that you have labeled it. Should put a "Smart" sticker on his forehead.

We had some people with the same type of mentality going on in the '60s/'70s. I remember one that I used to see all the time around 1970, 307 2barrel, auto tranny with Z/28 emblems and stripes, he would yammer on to anyone about his "Z/28". Never could get him to go run through the twisties with a few of us when we were getting together, funny how he always had something more important to do when asked.
Clyde

"Cobbled together...using the parts bin"...

Does it not make "good business case sense" for the Team to be doing parallel engineering, testing, certification and validation of "certain newly created parts" for "broader application(s)"? You know, two mules can be utilized for two different end purposes...three, if you count an Automatic ZL1. Wheels/tires/brakes/differential/axle shafts/HD Tremec...one with an LSA and MR, and perhaps one with an LS7 and "enhanced FE4"...

Just a thought...or a wish?!

Before the page turns on the '12 calendar, I predict this icon... :happyanim: ...will be used more than once... :thumbsup:

In MY '69, approx. 20,000 genuine Z/28s were assembled by GM. Today, by my estimation, there's about a 1/4 million...

"Missing the boat" comes to mind...

Some people just can't be "real" about what they have or don't have. I could have called my '67 RS 327 a Z/28, but it wasn't and I was quite pleased with what it did with the drivetrain it had. My '69 was a Z/28, even more pleasing to drive and it was what it was. We had all kinds of different Camaros, Chevelles, Novas, etc. in the Chevy High Performance Club I belonged to back then, those guys were proud of what they had and found no need to mis-represent what they had. The "wannabes" cruising around were all about mis-representation of their vehicles.
Clyde

In answer to the thread heading, "missing the boat" was my cryptic response...do you think GM is listening?

"Clones" and "tributes" are fine, if clearly noted as such. It's when the line blurs at "resale time" that things get kinda nasty...

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The forgers are getting better with fake trim tags, restamped blocks, and papers.

There will be a Z/28, most likely on the new platform, IMO.

You are preaching to the choir Lowdown!!!. I followed the thread and read all the arguments for the Z-28. You made an excellent argument I would like to note! My comments were a summary. I, like you, would like to see the same methodology used in a joint effort to bring the platform to market. Inferences can be made from threads that suggest it won't happen anytime soon. I don't have a business degree so I will not argue with corporate logic. However, there will be a Z-28. Clues are laying about to predict that. When is the question. And maybe they are working on it as we speak? I am staying optomistic for the return towards the end of the Gen5 cycle. :thumbsup:

Wixom: Hand-assembles the LS7, the LS9, and the dry-sumped Grand Sport LS3. "Capacity" has been as high as about 9,000 units. Nowhere near that number, currently. Underutilized. With a stiff tariff added to '12 Z06 Base Price, and current economic realities a little bit "cloudy" for Corvette production/sales (combined with the approach of the C7), not likely to soar anytime soon.

Unless...

"Asset utilization" might suggest there's room for "something"...and building engines, there, for a lower price-point car certainly wouldn't hurt Wixom's "efficiency"...or GM's profit$...

After all, you can only "delay the vacation" sooo long before you "pick another boat" to replace the one you "missed"...

One interesting approach is what the Challenger did in it's opening year of building SRTs only. Maybe build Gen5s and Gen6s together in 2014 or 2015 with the Gen6 being Z-28 only. How's that for a marketing plan.............

They have to now.....

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My sentiments as well. I'm not loving the ZL-1, it's nice and all, just not for me.

Why? The only thing that I can see happening there is GM essentially losing 6 months to a year of Camaro sales by not selling high volume V6's and SS's at the launch of the 6th gen.

I say interesting because it would only make sense if your wanting to build the Z-28 on lighter platform but still need to get dollars out of the Gen5. Is it too costly to cut weight on the Gen5 to make a high revving lightweight Z-28? It certainly doesn't make sense to wait another 3 or 4 model years when these will sell like hotcakes compared to the ZL1.

We'll definitely know by this time next year what's in stored for the next Z-28.