Meth injection question
 

Ive been hearing about Snow performance and Alky injections methanol injection kitsfor a while and wanted to see how you guy that are running meth injection like it and is it worth it compared to nitrous. Also beside the extra ponies, what are the positives and negatives of running meth injection. Will the car have to be retuned to run meth?

Heard good things def on my list

Where in LI ?

Meth and nitrous are nothing alike when compared about producing power. Nitrous, hands down if you want to make HP. On a NA car meth will do pretty much nothing. On FI you will get the cooling effect and the extra octane which will allow more timing thus creating more power. They are completely different.

Are you running a SC or a turbo ?

I need to rob a bank :iono:

Are you asking a question or making a statement? What's out running a SC or turbo?

I suck using my wifes iPad big fingers

Was asking if he's boosted

Hahaha. I was like wtf are you talking about. Good thing you're not on an iPhone!!:facepalm:

I'm way worse on the iPhone my texts make no sense sometimes

I get the car back from teds Monday can't wait

Going to start saving for a meth kit soon
Going catless next going to grab ARH cat deletes soon

Get yourself a nice Alky Controls kit. :D. Why do you need a kit to go careless. You could have Ted just weld in a section of straight pipe.

That's pretty much what arh is going to do
Ill talk to Ted on Monday about it

I just figured it would be way cheaper to have some straight pipe welded in and since your car is at Teds see if he can knock it out first thing Monday am.

Not a bad idea but a ny state check up awaits ,

Visual? Or just OBDII?

OBD

Just gut the cats!!!

I think Ted can make it pass.

I have a whipple and looking for extra power.

Whipple is a nice set up What are your #s now
Where in LI are you ?

From what ive read and heard you'll be happy with the meth kit a few of my buddy's have it and love it

With the 4.00" pulley running about 8-9lbs of boost im around 570rwhp. Im from long beach.

Put a cam in the car. Meth isn't going to give you all the much.

I was planning on doing both soon, im gunna go with jre rough idle blower cam. Would the car have to be retuned for the meth bc of the extra octane?

Hunter ? Its me Mike Black Turbo SS

Technically yes, but it's not the best idea to tune for power with the meth. If the meth fails, which does happen, youll be in a world of shit. Even the teachers at the efi classes are saying if you want more power run race gas and use the meth for cooling. But to answer your question, yes, you will need a retune.

That's a good bit of advice right there. Meth for cooling IATs.

Yes whats going on mike, did u get your car back yet?

If you want to enjoy any benefits of it then yes. With no re-tune then you will be running rich.

Last thing i want is any problems. After i do a cam, ill consider nitrous if meth isnt worth it and cause problems

As with any "performance"enhancement, both can create problems if improperly used or in the event a component fails...

I think I read Ted is your builder... Talk to him... He'll give you the straight scoop on either system and if he recommends one or the other, or neither...

No tomorrow I can't wait

Hope you and dad are well

BBQ July 29th hecksher park it's going to be nice

I do all my own work but ted dyno tuned my car and him and his team at jannetty racing are a class act. Illl definately see what he says about each system.

I'll give you teds answers.

Meth: No

Nitrous: Maybe

Tune for race gas: Yes

Ted doesn't tune for power with meth. Especially since all of the recent failures. He just disconnected the meth on my fathers GN and tuned it for race gas. You may be able to get him to do a nitrous tune but unless you're a track junkie what's the point. It isn't continuous power. After the cam you can add some boost but after that it's time to go into the engine.

Very true, i havent brought the car to the track yet bc i want to finish my mods. But like u said it really wont make sense if i dont bring the car to the track alot. What would u think id run in the quarter with a whipple, blower cam, 8-9lbs of boost on 93, headers 3" system, drag radials, and skinnies.

Stick car? What rwhp are you thinking?

Sorry yes it is a stick car, my cam isnt in yet but running my whipple it put down just about 570 to the wheels. Im thinking with the blower cam and a smaller 3.750" pulley hopefully looking at 650 rwhp. Correct me if im wrong

With a blower CAM and 3.75 inch pulley my Whipple put out about 10psi. It was in the 630 to 640 rwhp range on pump gas and 730ish on race gas. Stock bottom end so both tunes were on the conservative side on the timing.

My car went 10.5 at 135.

The next really important question you need to ask yourself is what are you going to do about the rear end and the clutch?

Those are good numbers. Down the road i was thinking about the zr1 clutch set up and 3.73 gear with 1000hp axles from the driveshaft shop

You may want to upgrade the drivetrain before hitting the track.:rolleyes:

Forget the ZR1 clutch...it's a POS and you are going to need a 9" if you intend to have traction. The Supercharger was the cheap part. :D

Yea ur not kidding! What clutch are u running?

Call Tommy Hendrix.....his clutch is the best thing going.