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alnajjd 11-20-2009 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 97one (Post 1197728)
Less restrictive Exhaust & Intake...:thumbsup:

PLUS run your tests in Cooler temps,High Bar.Presure,low Humidity,low Alt. which = a NEGITIVE Density Altitude...... THOSE conditions WITHOUT the Exhaust & intake will bring down the 0-60 times over 3/4 of a sec. From 6.09 sec to 5.26sec. that's what I found with my 39 diff. 0-60mph recorded runs.

I ran 6.09 secs. with a DA of 2,805ft.
I ran 5.26 secs. with a DA of 162ft.

My Best run is 5.01 sec. with my MRT exhaust, Airaid intake & 19" tires......But MOST IMPORTANTLY With: Temp.42, Hum.50, Bar.Pres.30.31, Elevation 350ft...= DA of MINUS 812ft.
All of those conditions will make a VAST diff. in 0-60 times. .......Did I say VAST!!..............
You really have to test & record the runs to see the VAST diff.those 5 conditions make.

:chevy:

well my evelvation in my city is about 800 feet and the temp does get to below 0 but its snowing by then obivously. Roght now the temp is in the 40s so i guess it would be an ideal time to test. The problem is I want it to be 5sec in the summer. Is that possible?

67 GTO 11-20-2009 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 97one (Post 1197728)
Less restrictive Exhaust & Intake...:thumbsup:

PLUS run your tests in Cooler temps,High Bar.Presure,low Humidity,low Alt. which = a NEGITIVE Density Altitude...... THOSE conditions WITHOUT the Exhaust & intake will bring down the 0-60 times over 3/4 of a sec. From 6.09 sec to 5.26sec. that's what I found with my 39 diff. 0-60mph recorded runs.

I ran 6.09 secs. with a DA of 2,805ft.
I ran 5.26 secs. with a DA of 162ft.

My Best run is 5.01 sec. with my MRT exhaust, Airaid intake & 19" tires......But MOST IMPORTANTLY With: Temp.42, Hum.50, Bar.Pres.30.31, Elevation 350ft...= DA of MINUS 812ft.
All of those conditions will make a VAST diff. in 0-60 times. .......Did I say VAST!!..............
You really have to test & record the runs to see the VAST diff.those 5 conditions make.

:chevy:

Thanks 97 :thumbsup:

97one 11-20-2009 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnajjd (Post 1197755)
well my evelvation in my city is about 800 feet and the temp does get to below 0 but its snowing by then obivously. Roght now the temp is in the 40s so i guess it would be an ideal time to test. The problem is I want it to be 5sec in the summer. Is that possible?

With 800ft.& hi temps. you will need more than Exhaust & intake to get 5.0 secs. You need to have a NEGATIVE DA with HIGH Bar. pres. etc.
To find the DA use the Drag Times DA Calculator.

But again you need to have NEGATIVE DA to get great 0-60 times!!!

:chevy:

Xanthos 11-20-2009 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnajjd (Post 1197755)
well my evelvation in my city is about 800 feet and the temp does get to below 0 but its snowing by then obivously. Roght now the temp is in the 40s so i guess it would be an ideal time to test. The problem is I want it to be 5sec in the summer. Is that possible?

Yes, but its going to be more difficult.

CAI and IAT relocation, headers, and axle-back or cat-back should be the first four mods on your list. You should be able to get all of that over the next 3 months without issue. CAI is basically Airaid at this point - there doesn't seem to be anything better on the market yet. Headers I'd suggest either JBA shorties (if you're worried about emissions) or BBK longtubes (if you aren't). For the exhaust - go with whatever you think sounds best, honestly. For best power, pick something that has an X-pipe or get an axle-back and have a custom x-pipe installed.

After thats done, you should be getting into the ballpark - especially if you have an RS with the wider rears/stickier tires. Past that though and there's really nothing at all out there to help besides the Zex kit. If you do get the Zex kit though, I'd recommend keeping it at the 55 hp shot until tuning is available. Don't want to get too lean...

Looking forward to your results.
- X

scrming 11-20-2009 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by patriotpa (Post 1197648)
Change gears. It'll be the most bang for your buck.

Would if it were possible... no gear out for the Camaro yet... plus no ability to tune the V6 for the new gears... but yeah... 4.10s... woohoo!!! LOL

scrming 11-20-2009 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xanthos (Post 1197839)
Yes, but its going to be more difficult.

CAI and IAT relocation, headers, and axle-back or cat-back should be the first four mods on your list. You should be able to get all of that over the next 3 months without issue. CAI is basically Airaid at this point - there doesn't seem to be anything better on the market yet. Headers I'd suggest either JBA shorties (if you're worried about emissions) or BBK longtubes (if you aren't). For the exhaust - go with whatever you think sounds best, honestly. For best power, pick something that has an X-pipe or get an axle-back and have a custom x-pipe installed.

After thats done, you should be getting into the ballpark - especially if you have an RS with the wider rears/stickier tires. Past that though and there's really nothing at all out there to help besides the Zex kit. If you do get the Zex kit though, I'd recommend keeping it at the 55 hp shot until tuning is available. Don't want to get too lean...

Looking forward to your results.
- X

Still not sure on the benefits of switching the H to an X... :iono:

scrming 11-20-2009 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 97one (Post 1197829)
With 800ft.& hi temps. you will need more than Exhaust & intake to get 5.0 secs. You need to have a NEGATIVE DA with HIGH Bar. pres. etc.
To find the DA use the Drag Times DA Calculator.

But again you need to have NEGATIVE DA to get great 0-60 times!!!

:chevy:

Yeah... 5.0 is going to be a very tall order! DA tomorrow is supposed to be in the 400 to 600 range... compared to the usually 1600 to 1800... woohoo!

Beauwulf 11-20-2009 07:49 PM

From what I've seen, getting rid of the torque management system should unleash about 30 more ponies in the lower gears..... We should be able to get mid 5s in summer with that alone. Add the other items (headers, exhaust, CAI) in a negative DA day and high 4's might be possible.

Remember, no times are considered totally ligit unless there's a time slip attached. The Kat Matrix timer is a pretty good tool for comparasons but is not (IMHO) a certified register of 0-60 or 1/4 mile times. No offense guys (I have one too) but it just don't count unless it's done at the strip....

Xanthos 11-20-2009 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scrming (Post 1197856)
Still not sure on the benefits of switching the H to an X... :iono:

I'm going to guess a slight drop in low end torque and a slight gain in upper end. But, once you get past first gear the upper end is really what matters.
- X

scrming 11-20-2009 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beauwulf (Post 1197998)
From what I've seen, getting rid of the torque management system should unleash about 30 more ponies in the lower gears..... We should be able to get mid 5s in summer with that alone. Add the other items (headers, exhaust, CAI) in a negative DA day and high 4's might be possible.

Remember, no times are considered totally ligit unless there's a time slip attached. The Kat Matrix timer is a pretty good tool for comparasons but is not (IMHO) a certified register of 0-60 or 1/4 mile times. No offense guys (I have one too) but it just don't count unless it's done at the strip....

Yep... show me the timeslip baby! LOL

67 GTO 11-20-2009 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beauwulf (Post 1197998)
Remember, no times are considered totally ligit unless there's a time slip attached. The Kat Matrix timer is a pretty good tool for comparasons but is not (IMHO) a certified register of 0-60 or 1/4 mile times. No offense guys (I have one too) but it just don't count unless it's done at the strip....

I agree and always now put a disclaimer. Weather permiting I'll be at Atco raceway in a few weeks.

Beauwulf 11-20-2009 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67 GTO (Post 1198068)
I agree and always now put a disclaimer. Weather permiting I'll be at Atco raceway in a few weeks.


Good luck... I'm hoping for a cold front to get here for next Wednesday nite's "Test & Tune"! I have 3 tricks "up my sleave" to try! hehe!

67 GTO 11-20-2009 08:44 PM

Just curious, I've read where the Dynolicious appy uses the embeded accelerometer in the iPhone, is this better than a stand alone meter?

Xanthos 11-20-2009 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67 GTO (Post 1198169)
Just curious, I've read where the Dynolicious appy uses the embeded accelerometer in the iPhone, is this better than a stand alone meter?

From what I've read, the dynolicious app has been proven fairly accurate on 1/4 mile ET, not so accurate on 1/4 mile trap speed, and relatively accurate (though not perfect) on 0-60.

I haven't personally taken mine to the track yet to compare the two.
- X


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