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73camarolt 01-18-2011 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SSE 4 2SS (Post 2741350)
You are welcome to our neck of the woods anytime... and I'll have something for you (sort-of) if you do make it... Are you going to the fest...?

Not sure if im going to make it to the fest this year. I am trying to go to Oshawa though. Fest is up in the air right now. BTW how far of a drive would it be from Memphis, TN to where you are in TX?

Granatelli 01-18-2011 12:06 PM

I am still following along - Let us know when you are ready:D

speedster 01-18-2011 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by speedster (Post 2720364)
JR has one of the best looking TT kits out there and he's a good dude. Very well thought out and not boasting HP numbers in the stratosphere.

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Originally Posted by Granatelli (Post 2742242)
I am still following along - Let us know when you are ready:D


JR -Saw the chassis dyno article with your shop in it. You had the lowest, most conservative correction factor. (.e.g corrected DOWN not up) I see how they say Westech was most accurate, but they have always been super high on corrections.

Robert - I will bet your GMS TT will put out MORE power than advertised.

Granatelli 01-18-2011 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by speedster (Post 2742552)
JR -Saw the chassis dyno article with your shop in it. You had the lowest, most conservative correction factor. (.e.g corrected DOWN not up) I see how they say Westech was most accurate, but they have always been super high on corrections.

Robert - I will bet your GMS TT will put out MORE power than advertised.

I have not seen the article yet you speak of - I was part of the whole test and debacle. No one really had numbers that were that close to the other guys. Westech is the dyno the magazine guys use all the time - it only seems natural that they say (claim) that dyno to be the most accurate.

My plans are to dyno test my own TT 2011 GS Vette and then go straight to Westech and redo the numbers there. Over all I agree my dyno is conservative and if you make big power here – you will make it everywhere. Better to be conservative then to embellish

Lastly we dyno for Porsche, VW, BMW and Volvo when the cars come into part - Ventura harbor. Our dyno is calibrated every 90 days and certified. For whatever that is worth

SSE 4 2SS 01-18-2011 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by speedster (Post 2742552)
JR -Saw the chassis dyno article with your shop in it. You had the lowest, most conservative correction factor. (.e.g corrected DOWN not up) I see how they say Westech was most accurate, but they have always been super high on corrections.

Robert - I will bet your GMS TT will put out MORE power than advertised.

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Originally Posted by Granatelli (Post 2742607)
I have not seen the article yet you speak of - I was part of the whole test and debacle. No one really had numbers that were that close to the other guys. Westech is the dyno the magazine guys use all the time - it only seems natural that they say (claim) that dyno to be the most accurate.

My plans are to dyno test my own TT 2011 GS Vette and then go straight to Westech and redo the numbers there. Over all I agree my dyno is conservative and if you make big power here – you will make it everywhere. Better to be conservative then to embellish

Lastly we dyno for Porsche, VW, BMW and Volvo when the cars come into part - Ventura harbor. Our dyno is calibrated every 90 days and certified. For whatever that is worth

Funny you guys talking about this, I have that very magazine here on my desk in Brazil. I use a kindle reader, well the kindle app on my Ipad, but this magazine is the only paper book I brought this hitch... I'm going to read the Dyno article and the Perfect paint article.

As for the certification, It's like the 30,000 PSI gauges we use, it is certified until they release the pressure used to certify it, then it changes...

Granatelli 01-18-2011 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SSE 4 2SS (Post 2742638)
As for the certification, It's like the 30,000 PSI gauges we use, it is certified until they release the pressure used to certify it, then it changes...

Exactly :sm0:

KERRPATCH 01-18-2011 08:59 PM

Robert, I really have enjoyed reading about your build. I expect be be purchasing my camaro in June or July (waiting for my son to get out of college and my wallet) I'm sure I will make it to one of the friday meets if you guys are still getting together then and look forward to meeting you. Keep us updated. The car is beautiful.

Scott

SSE 4 2SS 01-19-2011 11:51 AM

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I just got a note from my builder, he has been under the weather really bad the last couple of days and so he had no updates for me... Yet...

He did send my baseline dyno files, but I do not have winpep or whatever it take to open them. #%&*%$^ company computers... Oh well, anybody wanna help a brother out... Let me know if you can open them and pm me the e-mail address to send them to and I'll forward them to you and if you dont mind, post them up in here... Thanks If anyone can help me out...

That being the case... I thought I would add a few pics of the trip I made to Wyoming with Brandi...

I went up there for a class, and my wife, Debbie, flew in the last day of class and I picked her up at the airport in Gillette Wy.

We left Gillette, and headed west, then north, then west some more, crossing part of the rockies along the way... I have to say, that is some amazing country... I had plans to meet up with one of our fellow members, but due to unforseen circumstances, that didn't happen... We traveled at a leisurely pace, and ended up meeting up with Pat and his wife Debbie... They invited us into their home, and we had a blast... Went to eat the first eve, then got back to the house and visited quite a while...

Went to a really cool and very old Southwestern/Mexican food resturant the next morning and then out to the White Sands National Monument... We drove through the White Sands Muscle Test Range on the way, and uh, yeah...

The first pic is a reflection of my Camaro in the door skin of Pat's Camaro... For those of you going in our caravan to the Fest, via Los Cruces, you'll get to meet Pat and Debbie there... Great Folks, and Good Friends...

The second pic is the national park ranger, just about thirty seconds after I had stopped and gotten out of my car... We were so busted... I had just cut some serious donuts and was walking over to look at then and this ranger drives by... about a minute later he drove back by again, going the other direction, and I thought uh oh... Then he came back by a third time and we decided to skeedaddle...

No sense pushing our luck... and I couldn't hide the donut marks if I had a big push broom and two hours to try...

The third pic is the four of us just before we parted ways. Pat and his wife went back to Los Cruces, and Brandi, Pink Pig, my wife Debbie and I went on down the road to Carlsbad Caverns...

TAG UR IT 01-19-2011 11:51 PM

no pix of the doughnuts?!?!

Hey..if you need anything posted, you know you can shoot me the emails and I'd be happy to help out.

SSE 4 2SS 01-20-2011 01:16 AM

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If you have win pep I'll shoot them your way... He included the instructions on what to do...

Since it was commented on, here are the pics of "Time to make the donuts."

At the time we did this, I don't believe my wife had ever been in a car that departed normal flight rules on purpose... I was pulling out of the turnout area and told her to hang on..."whut...."lol, I stabbed the clutch, hammered on it and jumped back off the clutch... Our first time around we went at least thirty feet backwards, while powering forwards banging into the rev limiter... I knew I was either in deep deep trouble or she would just ignore my childish ways... :rolleyes:

About half way through it she started giggling, and I knew it would be ok... :D

A little funny about the trip home from Wyoming... We had just left Carlsbad Caverns, and arrived back in the Great State of Texas... We are coming down a very very long straight highway and it's one of those undulating roads that just keeps going up and over these little spaced out hills. I was behind a puke-up driving 8 - 10 mph below the speed limit, and since I wasn't in too big of a hurry, decided to hang back and look for a "safe" place to pass... Well, we got to one and I down shifted to 5th and pulled out... This knucklehead decides it's time to race:facepalm:... I just pushed on the gas a little harder and easily went right on around...My wife asked what that was about, and I explained that too many knuckleheads want to challenge a car like the Camaro... either to see if it really is fast, or to make a comparison with their own p.o.s...

Quite a few hours and several hundred miles later, it's dark, we just exited IH 10 onto Hwy 290 headed towards Harper and then on to Fredericksburg... This is another long straight road with lots of up and down areas... I'm behind another puke-up... this one one of those "bad a&&" Toyota's. He is also driving about ten under the limit, I lived in the area for about 20 years so I waited until another safe area, and shifted into 5th, pulled out and guess what happened... There is a little puff of smoke from his tail pipe, and off to the races he goes... I suppose he got a phone call about the imminent delivery of a chicken or something... Well, by this time I was tired, road weary and not in the mood... The moment I saw the puff of smoke and the squat of his truck, I slid the shifter back out of 5th, around the horn and into 3rd... This was at approximately 70 mph by this time...

(Those of you that drive the LS-3, know that from 70 or so on, in third gear is magic... These cars fly... 70-110 in a heartbeat...)

So, I jam third, dump the clutch, and I believe that guy is still looking for the headlights and license plate I sucked off the front of his truck as I went by... The funniest part of the whole thing is as I grab third and start to jam, I hear this little voice from the right side of the car........


"oh, he is going to be so disappointed..." I liked to of died laughing... :bellyroll:

TAG UR IT 01-20-2011 07:56 AM

:laugh:

I went back and looked at the programs. I had just installed a lot of software on my laptop, but don't think I have win pep.

SSE 4 2SS 01-20-2011 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TAG UR IT (Post 2748896)
:laugh:

I went back and looked at the programs. I had just installed a lot of software on my laptop, but don't think I have win pep.

I'm not asking for you to download anything for this, but I think winpep is available as a reader... I'll check around a bit and if nothing else, I'll wait until I get home and post them up...

Thanks Though...

2010 SS RS 01-20-2011 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SSE 4 2SS (Post 2748552)
If you have win pep I'll shoot them your way... He included the instructions on what to do...

Since it was commented on, here are the pics of "Time to make the donuts."

At the time we did this, I don't believe my wife had ever been in a car that departed normal flight rules on purpose... I was pulling out of the turnout area and told her to hang on..."whut...."lol, I stabbed the clutch, hammered on it and jumped back off the clutch... Our first time around we went at least thirty feet backwards, while powering forwards banging into the rev limiter... I knew I was either in deep deep trouble or she would just ignore my childish ways... :rolleyes:

About half way through it she started giggling, and I knew it would be ok... :D

A little funny about the trip home from Wyoming... We had just left Carlsbad Caverns, and arrived back in the Great State of Texas... We are coming down a very very long straight highway and it's one of those undulating roads that just keeps going up and over these little spaced out hills. I was behind a puke-up driving 8 - 10 mph below the speed limit, and since I wasn't in too big of a hurry, decided to hang back and look for a "safe" place to pass... Well, we got to one and I down shifted to 5th and pulled out... This knucklehead decides it's time to race:facepalm:... I just pushed on the gas a little harder and easily went right on around...My wife asked what that was about, and I explained that too many knuckleheads want to challenge a car like the Camaro... either to see if it really is fast, or to make a comparison with their own p.o.s...

Quite a few hours and several hundred miles later, it's dark, we just exited IH 10 onto Hwy 290 headed towards Harper and then on to Fredericksburg... This is another long straight road with lots of up and down areas... I'm behind another puke-up... this one one of those "bad a&&" Toyota's. He is also driving about ten under the limit, I lived in the area for about 20 years so I waited until another safe area, and shifted into 5th, pulled out and guess what happened... There is a little puff of smoke from his tail pipe, and off to the races he goes... I suppose he got a phone call about the imminent delivery of a chicken or something... Well, by this time I was tired, road weary and not in the mood... The moment I saw the puff of smoke and the squat of his truck, I slid the shifter back out of 5th, around the horn and into 3rd... This was at approximately 70 mph by this time...

(Those of you that drive the LS-3, know that from 70 or so on, in third gear is magic... These cars fly... 70-110 in a heartbeat...)

So, I jam third, dump the clutch, and I believe that guy is still looking for the headlights and license plate I sucked off the front of his truck as I went by... The funniest part of the whole thing is as I grab third and start to jam, I hear this little voice from the right side of the car........


"oh, he is going to be so disappointed..." I liked to of died laughing... :bellyroll:

Sounds like you got a keeper for a copilot..great stories...lol:laughabove:

SSE 4 2SS 01-20-2011 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 2010 SS RS (Post 2748965)
Sounds like you got a keeper for a copilot..great stories...lol:laughabove:

Agreed, Debbie is all I could ever ask for and then some...

Mr Twisty 01-20-2011 02:58 PM

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GTAHVIT 01-20-2011 03:18 PM

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:wave:

Awesome thread brother!

:headbang:

Mr Twisty 01-20-2011 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GTAHVIT (Post 2750222)
:popcorn:

:wave:

Awesome thread brother!

:headbang:

Did you come in here to get away from all those L99 folks whoring up your build thread?

...... Oh wait.....






nevermind :bellyroll:

GTAHVIT 01-20-2011 03:53 PM

:laugh:

SSE 4 2SS 01-20-2011 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69 (Post 2750142)
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Thank You for posting up the dyno runs... I do appreciate it... My next set ought to be a little higher, not sure how much, but a little...I might break 400 hp, or if I'm lucky, maye 500...

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Originally Posted by GTAHVIT (Post 2750222)
:popcorn:

:wave:

Awesome thread brother!

:headbang:

Thank You,

You're always welcome to come back... And as I told PQ, I don't know what the schedule for you two looks like going to the Fest, but you are welcome to join the Texans and Friends East/Caravan Across the States gang... We are up to around or just over 80 cars so far... We would love to have you... drive to San Antonio, spend Tuesday night, then on to Los Cruces Wednesday night, and a mini-pre-fest celebration and party on the patio, then it's only about 6 or 7 hours to Chandler, for Thursday eve...

SSE 4 2SS 01-20-2011 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 73camarolt (Post 2742162)
Not sure if im going to make it to the fest this year. I am trying to go to Oshawa though. Fest is up in the air right now. BTW how far of a drive would it be from Memphis, TN to where you are in TX?

Hmmm, Sorry I didn't reply to this earlier, I think it came in when I was transiting to Brazil, and I was having fits with my iPad...

anyway, Its 670 miles or about ten hours. My son used to play college baseball in Little Rock and I made the trip there and back quite a few times, mostly on my Harley... One Easter Weekend, the weather guessers said it was going to be cold in Texas, but warm up further East... I got up really early one Thursday morning, hopped on the bike and made it about 80 miles up the highway, and pulled off and put on every piece of clothing I could. I left the house and it was in the 50's, when I pulled over it was in the low 40's, by the time I got to Dallas, high 30', and 28 by the time I got to Little Rock... ppphphphpphphhphphphpphphhphphhhh........ck, I was cold............
The hard part was sitting in that weather for four days, and then getting back on the bike and riding nine hours home... He's worth it though... my son ended up getting drafted and played three years in the Marlins Org.

I laughed hysterically about 2:00 am on the way home that weekend... I'm smoking down the highway, and these flurry looking things keep floating past me... oh nooooooo, snow.... and I got 6 more hours to go... My bike is an Ultra Classic, (Geezer Glide) and it has a CB radio... I listen to the truckers so I know when I need to check up a bit... you should'a heard them talking about me... they didn't know I could hear them... that was funny, but alas, it wasn't snowing, I caught up to a truck plumb full to the rafters with chickens... I didn't know they froze them before they processed them, but I guess they do... there were feathers everywhere... If there had been a soldier with a flamethrower, I would have told him to shoot up in amongst us, cause one of us needed some relief...quote...

Update from Corey, my suspension parts came in as well as the axles... He thinks most everything else is on order, with a couple of exceptions...

This hitch is already dragging on... I'm trying to stay super busy so the days go by faster... it aint helping...

Mr Twisty 01-20-2011 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SSE 4 2SS (Post 2750391)
Thank You for posting up the dyno runs... I do appreciate it... My next set ought to be a little higher, not sure how much, but a little...I might break 400 hp, or if I'm lucky, maye 500...

Yep, 4 or 500 hp, that would be my guess too :emoticon13:

4 or 500 hp GAIN maybe :sm0:

SSE 4 2SS 01-20-2011 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69 (Post 2750594)
Yep, 4 or 500 hp, that would be my guess too :emoticon13:

4 or 500 hp GAIN maybe :sm0:

Dang, I'm busted....:bellyroll:

speedster 01-20-2011 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69 (Post 2750594)
Yep, 4 or 500 hp, that would be my guess too

So are we talking about the 4 hp gain or the 500 hp gain? :D Is there a difference? Yeah, you guys talk about adding 10, 20 or 50hp and next thing you know you run out of fingers to count the power you added. I think GM puts some kind of HP air freshener drug in every new Camaro. Makes you all a little crazy...:bellyroll:

Mr Twisty 01-20-2011 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by speedster (Post 2750918)
So are we talking about the 4 hp gain or the 500 hp gain? :D Is there a difference? Yeah, you guys talk about adding 10, 20 or 50hp and next thing you know you run out of fingers to count the power you added. I think GM puts some kind of HP air freshener drug in every new Camaro. Makes you all a little crazy...:bellyroll:

I didn't realize how that looked, but now that you mention it, how many have started with a CAI for a few HP, and ended up going off the deep end (Like Robert) and go for the big numbers!

... Bruce, you fell off the deep end when you were a child, me-thinks :laugh:

speedster 01-21-2011 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69 (Post 2751450)
... Bruce, you fell off the deep end when you were a child, me-thinks :laugh:

Ha, ha if you only knew. I was the youngest of 4 kids. An older sister and two older brothers. Some of the childhood test pilot events:

1) Put in a clothes hamper that was a "spaceship" and sent down the stairs. (Multiple times)

2) Told to climb up to the top of the tree - and then they cut it down !

3) When the sledding hill (on a mountain, in the woods with big boulders at the bottom) was too icy, they would stick me on a sled or toboggan. If I made it they would go. If I crashed, they'd put ice on the fat lip or bloody nose and go do something else... :bellyroll:


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