I didn't see which tires the Mustang was running so I'm not sure if the comparison was fair.
However the ZL1 comes with Ultra-High Performance tires (Eagle F1 Supercar G2's) meant for summer. The hotter the environment the better the traction will be. I can't remember where I read this but here it is, these tires are not supposed to be used in temps below 50 degrees and should never be stored at temps less than 20 degrees. Not sure why but I'm guessing that at such a low temp the structure/chem makeup of the tire is altered. For you SS guys with the Perrelis. Have you noticed that the cooler the pavement the worse your traction is? Also, this type of tire absolutely sucks at the strip, even on a hot day. Let the temperature debate begin, LOL! |
You guys need to get the January 23, 2012. Autoweek. One of the comments in there
Was that randy Pobst who drove both the zl1 and Laguna seca for motor trend was not as fast in the zl1 as Aaron Link, GMs engineer/test driver.Aaron link was the guy who drove the nurburgring lap. |
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I'd consider factory-spec "fair" when considering these sorts of reviews. No need to search for details and try to invalidate the comparison. I've always held that these articles were for entertainment value-only. This is no different. It just so happens the ZL1 came out on top in many of them. Good to see for a change. Thanks for posting these, guys -- and thanks for adding them to the homepage Tran, was able to catch them at work! Made my day!! :D |
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Magazine Recap of key facts relating to speed.
Car and Driver Mag
Curb weight: 4120 lb C/D TEST RESULTS: Zero to 60 mph: 4.1 sec Zero to 100 mph: 8.9 sec Zero to 130 mph: 14.7 sec Street start, 5–60 mph: 4.6 sec Top gear, 30–50 mph: 7.8 sec Top gear, 50–70 mph: 6.7 sec Standing ¼-mile: 12.3 sec @ 119 mph Top speed (drag ltd, mfr's claim): 180 mph Braking, 70–0 mph: 165 ft Roadholding, 250-ft-dia skidpad: 0.98 g Motor Trend Mag ZL1 Boss 302 Curb Weight 4051 lb 3638 lb TEST DATA ACCELERATION TO MPH ZL1 / Boss 0-30 1.6 / 1.7 sec 0-40 2.2 / 2.3 0-50 2.9 / 3.1 0-60 3.8 / 4.0 0-70 4.8 / 5.1 0-80 6.0 / 6.4 0-90 7.3 / 7.9 0-100 8.7 / 9.5 PASSING, 45-65 MPH 1.7 1.7 ZL1 / Boss QUARTER MILE 12.1 sec @ 117.4 mph / 12.4 sec @ 113.9 mph BRAKING, 60-0 MPH 108 ft 112 ft LATERAL ACCELERATION 1.00 g (avg) 1.01 g (avg) 2.2-MI ROAD COURSE LAP 01:41.3 01:43.7 TOP-GEAR REVS @ 60 MPH 1700 rpm 1950 rpm Autoweek Mag CURB WT: 4120 lb. 0-60 MPH 3.9 sec (auto), 4.0 sec (manual) 1/4 Mile 12.0 (auto), 12.1 (manual) AUTOMOBILE Mag Weight 4084 lb.. 0-60 4.3 0-100 9.5 1/4 mi. 12.6 @ 116 mph |
Interesting statement in Popular Mechanics:
Favorite Detail: In muscle cars, the automatic transmission is usually an afterthought. But the ZL1's six-speed auto slushbox is joyously effective. The manual mode—engaged via steering-wheel-mounted paddles—is responsive, and the automatic car is easier to launch. GM engineers claim that the automatic transmission makes for quicker quarter-mile runs, but in our testing, the manual was the better sprinter. The difference, however, was miniscule—the auto Camaro passed the quarter-mile in 12.58 seconds, while the manual car did it in 12.57. Not that it really matters because I think we all will enjoy our cars no matter what transmission they are equipped with but some of our members have been caught up and gloating at the GM statement.. Read more: 2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 Test Drive - Popular Mechanics |
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Their times were kinda slow vs the first four reviews received. They did not say if they used launch control or not. Their times just seem like possibly the driver used was not familiar with the car enough to test it properly. Imagine, a whole HALF second behind the other four tests. At about 116 MPH how many car lengths would that be? 8-12? Sorry, but it just seems like something is askew. Note this race from another thread. The Dodge is 1/2 second behind the Camaro and is about 20 cars behind. The Camaro turned an 11.9 vs 12.5 for the Dodge. Same Difference as in the best mag tests vs Popular Mechanics http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...0&postcount=83 |
Jalopnik review is up.
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That Motor Authority Review was...beautiful. :bow:
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They're teasing us with that black ZL1 on the lift pic.
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Autoblog review is up!
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I just got done reading the Jalopnik review. It was decent. Just don't read the user comments at the end of the article. Jalopnik seems to be overrun by anti Camaro fanboys who like to hide behind the anonymity of the internet.
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I still don't understand why they didn't shoe the ZL1 with the Michelin PS2's,like the ZR1. Ah well,it's a simple fix for ~$1800.00 |
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The tires took a Z06 and made it nearly as fast as a ZR1...imagine what they could do on the Z Camaro. :bow: EDIT: I was thinking Pilot Sport Cups. My mistake. :D |
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phillips chevy says my zl1 starts production feb 20 does anyone no how long the zl1 takes to build
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