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Fiftydriver 06-15-2013 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by old motorhead (Post 6673293)
You might think about tranny upgrades while the motor is being built. A stock A6 isn't going to like 700 ft lbs just over idle. You'll like it though:happy0180:

Yep, going to be doing some trany work as well!!

Fiftydriver 06-15-2013 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 10aSSee D (Post 6673319)
11:1 scares the crap out of me on a boosted motor even with a good tune, hope you are running good fuel lol.

The short block will be set up with 11:1 pistons. We will be using a set of LS9 head gaskets which will result in a CR of about exactly what the LS3 is at 10.7:1. With a 416 stroker and a maggie, I think this will be ideal. Will have GREAT out of boost performance and also the higher compression should help the Maggie make boost a bit easier and not need to spin it to the max to get it.

Fiftydriver 06-15-2013 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Supercharged SS (Post 6674094)
Hey, wanna see my 9 second camaro?


Thats one image I could have lived without EVER seeing!!!

old motorhead 06-15-2013 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Fiftydriver (Post 6674374)
Yep, going to be doing some trany work as well!!

Can you get specific on what's being done to the tranny? I'd like for my nest ride (Camaro or Vette) to have an A6. At least in the Vette world, the A6 still seems to be a mystery. Just when you think one is going to work, you hear about it being removed for further upgrades. I HATE that. For me, working on stuff just isn't as fun as it used to be. I'd rather be driving the hell out of it:nod:

Supercharged SS 06-15-2013 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by old motorhead (Post 6674563)
Can you get specific on what's being done to the tranny? I'd like for my nest ride (Camaro or Vette) to have an A6. At least in the Vette world, the A6 still seems to be a mystery. Just when you think one is going to work, you hear about it being removed for further upgrades. I HATE that. For me, working on stuff just isn't as fun as it used to be. I'd rather be driving the hell out of it:nod:

The original JRE built trans lasted 150 very low 10 and high 9 second passes in a 4200 lb car. When they took it out there was some wear on one of the clutch packs. They have new idea that came about that they wanted to try but for all the abuse my car takes if it needs a refresh every year then so be it. That's not what Ted wants to see but time will tell. On a car seeing the strip a few times a year it would last forever.

Supercharged SS 06-15-2013 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Fiftydriver (Post 6674391)
Thats one image I could have lived without EVER seeing!!!

Haha!! You know that's your new screen saver!:D

Fiftydriver 06-15-2013 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by old motorhead (Post 6674563)
Can you get specific on what's being done to the tranny? I'd like for my nest ride (Camaro or Vette) to have an A6. At least in the Vette world, the A6 still seems to be a mystery. Just when you think one is going to work, you hear about it being removed for further upgrades. I HATE that. For me, working on stuff just isn't as fun as it used to be. I'd rather be driving the hell out of it:nod:


Have no idea!! LOL

Ted at JRE will be taking care of that for me and as Supercharged SS stated, on a street car, Teds reworked trany will last forever!!

Fiftydriver 06-15-2013 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Supercharged SS (Post 6674616)
Haha!! You know that's your new screen saver!:D

I build precision, ultra performance long range rifles for a living. Pretty sure that may have just become my new standard target that I tape to my 1000 yard range. It will be perfect, at that range I will not be able to see it until I put the scope on it and then the only thing I will be able to think is "SHOOT THAT DAMN THING!!!"

Thanks for giving me nightmares all week at least!!!

Supercharged SS 06-15-2013 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Fiftydriver (Post 6675174)
I build precision, ultra performance long range rifles for a living. Pretty sure that may have just become my new standard target that I tape to my 1000 yard range. It will be perfect, at that range I will not be able to see it until I put the scope on it and then the only thing I will be able to think is "SHOOT THAT DAMN THING!!!"

Thanks for giving me nightmares all week at least!!!

You'll need some killer aim to hit that little target!!:facepalm:

Supercharged SS 06-15-2013 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by old motorhead (Post 6674563)
Can you get specific on what's being done to the tranny? I'd like for my nest ride (Camaro or Vette) to have an A6. At least in the Vette world, the A6 still seems to be a mystery. Just when you think one is going to work, you hear about it being removed for further upgrades. I HATE that. For me, working on stuff just isn't as fun as it used to be. I'd rather be driving the hell out of it:nod:

http://www.transmissioncenter.net/6l...arts_6l90e.htm

I run the Phoenix. This will give you a general idea. Blake is to retarded to update the parts list or data (since he knows the car went 9.80), so it doesn't include any of the updates that JRE does.

10aSSee D 06-16-2013 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Andy@Livernois (Post 6673327)
curious on the reasons behind the concern on this as an ls2 is 10.9:1, an ls3 is 10.7-10.8, an ls7 is 11:1, and the new 5.0 coyote is 11:1 right from the factory, yet tens of thousands of these engines have superchargers on them with failures being extremely rare, and only occurring with poor tunes, or too high of boost pressures.

I understand what you are saying but if I'm building a motor to hold a lot of horsepower and run a good amount of boost 15-18psi on pump gas I would rather have the CR around 9.5:1.

Fiftydriver 06-16-2013 09:21 AM

Who said anything about running 15-18 lbs of boost. THere is likely no way in hell that my maggie would be able to produce that level of boost without all the upgrades and I am not going with those. THis is a street car and I am looking for 10-12 boost range max.

2SS45th 06-16-2013 09:38 AM

Then you're going to need the 10 rib setup, because I'm only getting 13 without the upgrades.

10aSSee D 06-16-2013 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Fiftydriver (Post 6676256)
Who said anything about running 15-18 lbs of boost. THere is likely no way in hell that my maggie would be able to produce that level of boost without all the upgrades and I am not going with those. THis is a street car and I am looking for 10-12 boost range max.

Gotcha, just assumed I guess you would running more boost on a built motor. Cool build you got going, I wish mine was under way...

ADM PERFORMANCE 06-16-2013 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 10aSSee D (Post 6676303)
Gotcha, just assumed I guess you would running more boost on a built motor. Cool build you got going, I wish mine was under way...

I have 2-417 shortbloks in stock.

1 new block , new callies crank,new callies rods,new manley 18cc dish 4.070 pistons.fully balanced and blueprinted tested combo is on our website in our texas mile cadi.

1 used block , new manley crank,new manley rods,new mahle 28cc dish 4.075 pistons,all new bearings,fully balanced and bluepriinted

Just waiting on you :w00t:

Unavowed 06-16-2013 02:00 PM

In Waterbury now, but nothing is open on Sunday...

Supercharged SS 06-16-2013 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Unavowed (Post 6676840)
In Waterbury now, but nothing is open on Sunday...

:noidea:

Unavowed 06-16-2013 04:57 PM

Came up for a wedding. Drove by the Mecca of speed. Not a soul in sight. Evidence of a few burnouts though. You can't swing a dead cat without hitting a Dunkin Doughnuts though. I may stop in Sandy Hook on my way home tomorrow to pay my respects. Not sure what is appropriate though.

Supercharged SS 06-16-2013 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Unavowed (Post 6677326)
Came up for a wedding. Drove by the Mecca of speed. Not a soul in sight. Evidence of a few burnouts though. You can't swing a dead cat without hitting a Dunkin Doughnuts though. I may stop in Sandy Hook on my way home tomorrow to pay my respects. Not sure what is appropriate though.

Ah, that makes sense now. Could've been waterbury vt. Nothing at JRE on a sunday. Tomorrow it all starts up again.:D

No harm in driving through Sandy Hook. Really not much to see now though.

10aSSee D 06-16-2013 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ADM PERFORMANCE (Post 6676330)
I have 2-417 shortbloks in stock.

1 new block , new callies crank,new callies rods,new manley 18cc dish 4.070 pistons.fully balanced and blueprinted tested combo is on our website in our texas mile cadi.

1 used block , new manley crank,new manley rods,new mahle 28cc dish 4.075 pistons,all new bearings,fully balanced and bluepriinted

Just waiting on you :w00t:

That sounds good, I keep getting little surprises like my wife telling me we have another kiddie on the way:faint: I have managed to get a street slayer clutch on the way to bring with me for when you do the build, hopefully sooner than later:thumbup:

Fiftydriver 06-16-2013 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 2SS45th (Post 6676292)
Then you're going to need the 10 rib setup, because I'm only getting 13 without the upgrades.

Only looking for 10-12 lbs boost so if anything the 8 rib should be fine. Hoping anyway.

Fiftydriver 06-16-2013 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ADM PERFORMANCE (Post 6676330)
I have 2-417 shortbloks in stock.

1 new block , new callies crank,new callies rods,new manley 18cc dish 4.070 pistons.fully balanced and blueprinted tested combo is on our website in our texas mile cadi.

1 used block , new manley crank,new manley rods,new mahle 28cc dish 4.075 pistons,all new bearings,fully balanced and bluepriinted

Just waiting on you :w00t:


Just in the planning stages now so not ready to pull the trigger and say GO right now. I bet both these motors would be real screamers!!!

Unavowed 06-17-2013 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ADM PERFORMANCE (Post 6676330)
I have 2-417 shortbloks in stock.

1 new block , new callies crank,new callies rods,new manley 18cc dish 4.070 pistons.fully balanced and blueprinted tested combo is on our website in our texas mile cadi.

1 used block , new manley crank,new manley rods,new mahle 28cc dish 4.075 pistons,all new bearings,fully balanced and bluepriinted

Just waiting on you :w00t:

So 417ci @ 10.3:1 + TVS2300 @ 12psi = ?? rwhp?

Supercharged SS 06-17-2013 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by VanquisherSS (Post 6670421)
Hold your horses, I'll be posting shortly :nod:. :smoking:. Test and tune at Atco Sunday I might give it another go with the juice. I think the stock clutch is about had it though.

:popcorn:

ADM PERFORMANCE 06-17-2013 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Unavowed (Post 6678785)
So 417ci @ 10.3:1 + TVS2300 @ 12psi = ?? rwhp?

Depends on heads and cam and other mods


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