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KatarHol 08-19-2008 10:32 AM
Camaro RS vs Challenger R/T
 
Edmunds has a fat Challenger R/T hitting 60 in 5.9 and the quarter at 14.1......hmmmm,quite lame for a 375HP car. I'm thinking this will have its hands full with a RS or a Genesis V6 coupe. The Challenger SE doesn't even come into the conversation,guys in Aveos will be picking on those things.

kevin2323 08-19-2008 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by KatarHol (Post 114801)
Edmunds has a fat Challenger R/T hitting 60 in 5.9 and the quarter at 14.1......hmmmm,quite lame for a 375HP car. I'm thinking this will have its hands full with a RS or a Genesis V6 coupe. The Challenger SE doesn't even come into the conversation,guys in Aveos will be picking on those things.
edmunds is bias and has always been with dodge cars. THE OLD RT ENGINE DOES 0-60 IN 5.6 SEC. this new one should do it in 5.4-5.3. Well here is the killer, they got 5.5 out of an srt8 manual and said it took them 3 gears to get to 60. Shows you that none of these bias morons at edmunds know what they're doing. Wait for car and drivers numbers, they got 4.8 out of the srt8 auto.:mad0260:

nester7929 08-19-2008 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by kevin2323 (Post 114830)
edmunds is bias and has always been with dodge cars. THE OLD RT ENGINE DOES 0-60 IN 5.6 SEC. this new one should do it in 5.4-5.3. Well here is the killer, they got 5.5 out of an srt8 manual and said it took them 3 gears to get to 60. Shows you that none of these bias morons at edmunds know what they're doing. Wait for car and drivers numbers, they got 4.8 out of the srt8 auto.:mad0260:



Here's what I've found about the R/T:

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Originally Posted by Car&Driver
And after driving them back to back on road and track, we’ve decided the Challenger R/T is where it’s at, offering as it does about 90 percent of the fun with a claimed 5.5-second 0-to-60 time, a 14.0-second quarter-mile, and a 138-mph top speed (versus 4.9 seconds to 60, 13.3 to the quarter-mile, and a 172-mph top end for the SRT8). The case for the R/T is made more solid when fuel economy is considered. The R/T delivers 16 mpg in the city and 23 mpg on the highway with the automatic and 15/23 for the manual. The SRT8 languishes with 13/19 and 14/22 in automatic and manual forms, respectively.
They also said that the automatic sucks in the Challengers (has a tendency to upshift even in manual mode), with the manual having more than a clear advantage.

kevin2323 08-19-2008 11:44 AM
yea it is funny too when they tested the 08s they got 4.8 for the srt8s. Guess the crappy automatic is faster than the average driver. I am guessing the best numbers for the rt will be 5.4-5.5(5.1-5.3 w/ a tune and some bolt-ons.). They have got to find some better drivers at edmunds lol.


also I think they were quoting dodge numbers I don't think that they have tested the 09s yet.

Jamestwilliams 08-19-2008 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by kevin2323 (Post 114830)
edmunds is bias and has always been with dodge cars. THE OLD RT ENGINE DOES 0-60 IN 5.6 SEC. this new one should do it in 5.4-5.3. Well here is the killer, they got 5.5 out of an srt8 manual and said it took them 3 gears to get to 60. Shows you that none of these bias morons at edmunds know what they're doing. Wait for car and drivers numbers, they got 4.8 out of the srt8 auto.:mad0260:
EVERY car mag sucks period. I remember when they introduced the C6 Z06, gm specifically geared the car so that you don't have to shift out of first till after 60 mph, yet the car mags still shifted and purposely slowed the times, every one of them did it.

kevin2323 08-19-2008 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamestwilliams (Post 114854)
EVERY car mag sucks period. I remember when they introduced the C6 Z06, gm specifically geared the car so that you don't have to shift out of first till after 60 mph, yet the car mags still shifted and purposely slowed the times, every one of them did it.
That is why I love forums like these so you can get real times.

radz28 08-19-2008 12:56 PM
I've seen better runs in my shorts...

The_Blur 08-19-2008 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamestwilliams (Post 114854)
EVERY car mag sucks period. I remember when they introduced the C6 Z06, gm specifically geared the car so that you don't have to shift out of first till after 60 mph, yet the car mags still shifted and purposely slowed the times, every one of them did it.
:word:

Shadowsong 08-19-2008 03:10 PM
Another thing that has to be taken into consideration, the R/T Has Close to 400 ft/lbs of tq. A v6 camaro might be able to give it a run, if they were going from a roll, but from a dig, that tq would KILL us.

Congoman775 08-19-2008 07:06 PM
well I am not sure. How much does the rt weigh? It will probaly be competative with the v6 but win of course. I mean this car probaly costs as much as the ss. Why is it being compared to the v6?

Jak 08-19-2008 11:08 PM
On the weight question I found the R/T to come in at 3947, a little over thirty pounds more then the Camaro at 3913



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Originally Posted by Congoman775 (Post 115055)
well I am not sure. How much does the rt weigh? It will probaly be competative with the v6 but win of course. I mean this car probaly costs as much as the ss. Why is it being compared to the v6?

radz28 08-20-2008 12:16 AM
Ouch, almost 4000 lbs.? Eek! Well, if the SRT is another 100 lbs. or so, that almost makes sense. Hey, that car was pretty big back in the day, so it's not much of a suprise.

96CAMaro 08-20-2008 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by radz282003 (Post 114877)
I've seen better runs in my shorts...
:sm0: . . . :barf:

Jak 08-20-2008 08:33 AM
Sorry my bad, I checked Dodge's site again and see they've changed the weights on the Challengers. The R/T comes in at 4041 and the SRT comes in at 4140. Wonder why the weight change on the R/T? That's now a 128 pound diff between the Camaro an the Challenger.


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