Motul Dot 5.1 brake fluid track questions
Hello everyone,
I'm thinking about hitting the track for a HPDE this weekend in my Zl1. I've ran several of these in my old Mustang where I used to run Motul 600 fluid and Carbotech brake pads. I have recently moved from Chicago to the Detroit area and just got some interesting advice. A mechanic told me that switching from Dot 3 in my Z to Dot 5 synthetic could cause a host of problems. Mainly he was worried about the moisture that is already in the lines and the seals degrading. I never had this problem in my Mustang which was a DD and saw 4-6 HPDE's a year. Is this true? If I swap to Motul 600 will my seals start to fade due to the incompatibility of the fluids? If that is true is the Motul dot 5.1 suitable for track days? Also I would be getting a full brake flush when adding the new fluid but I guess I'm wondering if that's enough. Thanks in advance. |
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Motul 600 is DOT 4. Perfectly fine to use. Motul has a 5.1 fluid, also perfectly fine to use, but is not a high performance fluid like the 600 is, so you are better of with Motul 600 for track use. The mechanic is right that DOT 5 fluid should not be used and mixed with DOT 3,4, and 5.1. The numbering scheme was a bad choice. 5 is a different animal than 5.1 and not compatible. |
Motul 600 DOT is what I use....never had a problem
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Thank you Z28LT1 and Kaboom for the fast response. I thought it was ok to use but he had me second guessing everything after that.
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From what I understand you can use the DOT 5.1 but it absorbs moister faster so you have to change it more often. This was really designed for race team that swap their fluids out before and after every race.
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Has anyone used that BG super DOT 4 stuff? A brake shop down the road from me uses this in one of their flush machines. Anyone had any issues on track days with it? It's rated at over 500 degrees but it's about 85 degrees less than the Motul 600.
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I went with motul 660
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Also it's nearly impossible to change a system from DOT3/4 to DOT5. DOT 5 is silicone based, and does not play nicely with other fluids. |
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Kaboom mentioned 5.1, not 5. 5 does not absorb water and is sometimes used in places where a longer change interval is needed. 5.1 is just like 3 and 4 and absorbs water. Has the same boiling points as 5 but really should have been called 4.1 or something to avoid confusion. |
bottom line...do not use DOT 5 fluids in our systems. Motul 600 & 660 are DOT 4 and totally compatible with stock fluid which is DOT 3. Flush the system with a power bleeder like the Motive unit and be confident the system is 100% high temp fluid and has no residual low temp factory fluid.
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I like Castrol SRF. Expensive but worth it. I can run 18+ track days a year and just bleed it after each event. Flush at the end of the season.
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The Motul RBF 660 has the highest dry and wet boiling point. If I was going to change the stock fluid, that is what I'd use.
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