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MustangConvert 07-25-2010 08:58 AM

Z, any chance you can test drive a SS to see how they compare?

Thanks for all the updates so far.

OKCwhiteKnight 07-25-2010 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MustangConvert (Post 2140354)
Z, any chance you can test drive a SS to see how they compare?

Thanks for all the updates so far.

Yeah, got to calibrate the butt dyno..lol

formare 07-25-2010 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MustangConvert (Post 2089733)
And that is why I have only upgraded the air filter. Granted it is going to be awhile before I get a turbo/SC (call me paranoid, but waiting 'til the warranty runs out), but no need to to spend 1k+ when I'm going to be replacing it down the road. Good advice for those that hadn't thought about it.

Can't wait to see those dyno numbers. :thumbsup:

Are you waiting for 100,000 mile power train warranty to run out before the turbo install?

CAMAR0 07-25-2010 11:09 AM

Ha!

CAMAR0 07-25-2010 11:10 AM

If he has a smartphone he could do rough runs with an app to compare.

ROD1 07-25-2010 02:45 PM

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Max, Just curious. What did the inside of the maf tube look like? Is it just a straight tube or is there something inside it?

Z Madness 07-25-2010 06:24 PM

Rod1, are you asking me or MaxKamai? This is a picture of my intake and if I recall, it's just straight through. What are you looking for? Somewhere to inject your N2O?

ajax. 07-25-2010 07:36 PM

Couple questions. to verify the single turbo gives the V6 454 and twin turbo gives it 750???? Can this be done to a Automatic transmission?

Z Madness 07-25-2010 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ajax. (Post 2142062)
Couple questions. to verify the single turbo gives the V6 454 and twin turbo gives it 750???? Can this be done to a Automatic transmission?

Turbo kit is for either transmission. They are only selling the single for the V6 and the twin for the V8's. The single has the capability of much more boost, it's more limited by what the engine can safely handle.

spoone123 07-25-2010 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Z Madness (Post 2142100)
Turbo kit is for either transmission. They are only selling the single for the V6 and the twin for the V8's. The single has the capability of much more boost, it's more limited by what the engine can safely handle.

This single turbo give you like 7 PSI isn't it? and you don't have to upgrade any transmission etc? Since i have LS I think i have to get Z rated tires

ajax. 07-25-2010 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Z Madness (Post 2142100)
Turbo kit is for either transmission. They are only selling the single for the V6 and the twin for the V8's. The single has the capability of much more boost, it's more limited by what the engine can safely handle.


Thanks for the quick reply and great videos btw:happyanim:. I was just checking them out. What kind of HP are you getting out of the system?

Z Madness 07-26-2010 12:57 AM

350 rwhp.

Spoone- if you have an LS, you will be speed limited to 118. You will need Trifecta to turn it off if you plan to exceed that level. Wastegate came with a 7psi. Spring, but during the testing, max boost was just under 5 psi. This was designed for a completely stock motor.

SDCamaro10 07-26-2010 02:59 AM

Just remember guys, you wont be able to go much higher then what Z is already at. Start getting up at those boost ranges and thats when fuel management comes in to play and you'll need to do some upgrades to get it to work. The LLT being direct injection is why most companies havent even tried to give us FI yet. Anyways.. i wouldnt go any higher than 6psi unless we see some aftermarket fuel management modifications(injectors, pumps, etc).

Z Madness 07-26-2010 04:14 AM

Dyno Video
 
In case anyone is interested...

rhd 07-26-2010 04:52 AM

that thing sounds SOOOOOO SICK!!

King Sun 07-26-2010 05:46 AM

sooo we are basically making stock l99 power with 5psi??? oh my

stand-al0ne 07-26-2010 08:27 AM

z, thanks for the dyno runs and videos.
So far so good; that power output is good considering the psi its running at (roughly 18-20hp per psi?!). Sounds like the key component is what kind of psi can the v6 boost to before running too lean. Is Trifecta making any comments on where boost could be upped to safely on the stock set up? And yes a boost controller is a must.

I would suggest a single stage manual - simple yet effective because it takes alot of variables out of the equation in the event something goes wrong. Also, if the wastegate is adjustable, then you can adjust the wastegate to its 'factory' setting, then adjust your boost controller to the desired psi. All of this will need to be done with an acurate boost gauge of course - thats too bad the autometer isnt working right - I wonder if maybe it just isnt hooked up right. But the gauge will be important to monitor while going through trials with the boost gauge on the street.

I guess I would just see what Trifecta thinks you can safely run boost up to, then get the boost controller and boost gauge working right, do some driving around to get it dialed in, and then maybe back to the dyno to see how everything is sync'ing up.

ROD1 07-26-2010 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Z Madness (Post 2141851)
Rod1, are you asking me or MaxKamai? This is a picture of my intake and if I recall, it's just straight through. What are you looking for? Somewhere to inject your N2O?

Lol, yeah I meant you. Not sure why I wrote Max. lol.

ROD1 07-26-2010 08:56 AM

Just a note on your Dyno numbers. It is known that a Dynapack reads 8-10% lower than a Dynojet does.

PoorMansCamaro 07-26-2010 09:56 AM

If anyone is interested?:sm0:

Thanks Z!:thumbup:

KMPrenger 07-26-2010 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ROD1 (Post 2143756)
Just a note on your Dyno numbers. It is known that a Dynapack reads 8-10% lower than a Dynojet does.

Was going to mention this, but ROD beat me! lol

CAMAR0 07-26-2010 12:38 PM

psi**** rwhp*** hp*****
0****** 260**** 312****
5****** 348**** 418****
6****** 366**** 439****
7****** 384**** 461****
8****** 401**** 482****
9****** 419**** 503****
10***** 437**** 524****
11***** 455**** 545****
12***** 472**** 567****
13***** 490**** 588****
14***** 508**** 609****

Z's and AAC's results match up with standard calcs.

ajax. 07-26-2010 01:25 PM

Straight from STS. I suck at reading these things but it looks to be about 400RWHP? Looks like im about to be out 6k. :popcorn:

http://i842.photobucket.com/albums/z...STurbo6psi.jpg

Abygale 07-26-2010 01:31 PM

Thank you Z for getting your car on the dyno and sharing your video and report. I have just a few questions. Is this rough curve something that is typical with a turbo or is this an indicator of some remaining tuning issues?

The car sounds great by the way! :thumbup:

CAMAR0 07-26-2010 01:40 PM

400 rwhp at 8psi on aac right? My memory sucks.


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