1LE/ ZL1 production temporary suspension effective Nov 21
 

Effective Thursday, November 21, 2013, Chevrolet will temporarily suspend order processing for the 2014 Camaro ZL1 model and the SS Performance Package (RPO: 1LE) due to the effect of cold weather on the performance tires for these models. Again, it is only a temporary suspension that does not impact the Camaro LS, LT and SS models ordered without 1LE.

Order processing for the 2014 Camaro ZL1 and the SS Performance Package (RPO: 1LE) will resume on Tuesday, February 11, 2014.

The suspension of ordering will impact Camaro production from January 2014 to March 2014. It is expected any ZL1 or SS models with the Performance Package (RPO: 1LE) produced through December 2013 will be shipped to dealers.

The other ordering issue involves the 2014 Camaro Convertible beige top (RPO: 67T). The beige convertible top will end production for the 2014 model year during the month of January 2014 -- due to our Camaro Spring Edition Package that will go into production then. The last opportunity for dealers to submit orders for convertibles with the beige top (RPO: 67T) will be the Dealer Order Submission Process (DOSP) cycle that starts Thursday, December 5, 2013 and concludes Tuesday, December 10. 2013 -- therefore -- if you desire a 2014 Camaro with a Beige convertible top - you need to visit your dealer immediately to place your order.

The end of beige top production does not impact the availability of the black top (RPO: 19T). As a reminder, the recently announced 2014 Camaro Spring Special edition, when ordered with a convertible model, will include a blue convertible top.

Dang I should probably order a 1LE today

This has already been posted in 1LE forum as well

Say what? :twitch:

Yea it's been discussed in length already, guessing you did not see the other posts. GM is doing this instead of having holds on orders (already placed) like they did last winter.

Have a look here:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=328054

Why not just ship them with "basic" tires and have the dealer switch them out? Then you can have a disclaimer signed explaining that the tires are not good in the snow/cold and recommend switching tires or winterizing the vehicle until Spring. What about those in warmer climates

Say they don't have all whell drive? haha

The tires cannot even be exposed to below 20F according to goodyear, it would be a big hassle to have separate tires/wheels just for shipping how would it even work?

One way could be reg wheels/tires bolted on car, zl1/1le wheels shipped in heated transport, dealer swaps them out and ships them back to the factory for reuse? that would be the best way imo since your zl1 wheels havent been touched more than necessary and youre not stuck with technically used tires/wheels to sell, but also very costly, 2x shipping bills.

Probably the most economical way would be ship the car with the rear ss pirellis all around on the 1le/zl1 rims, the dealer gets the goodyears separate, and swap them out. The problems with that are the dealer now has 4 tires that could probably be sold as new, but they technically wouldn't be new, and your brand new car has now had tires unmounted/remounted an additional time, even if they didn't balance the original tires(so you dont have weights added/removed) at the factory you would still have the chance of marks on the rim lip.

That is why they do this, you have just under 3 months of no orders for these cars, with enough notice that you can place a few extra orders (if your allocations allow) to hold you over until march.

Maybe also cause every car has to be driven by a service person (PDI), and the tires may not be suitable for the conditions at the time?

The PDI is at the dealer, so there is no reason this couldn't be done at the dealerships in the southern united states, obviously the dealers in the northern states and canada wouldnt be able to do this

What a joke! Because of the tires? I drive on drag radials year round snow rain or shine! Its a shame this is probably due to all the frivolous lawsuits these days! All it takes is some idiot with more dollars then common sense to wreck a zl1 or 1le and sue because it was the tires fault they lost control! SMH

This does seem rather silly, especially for the southern states where we don't even flirt with 20 degrees. It's a sunny 80 degrees outside right now! :/

If you're not ordering a 1LE or ZL1, don't worry about it, it does not affect you. It certainly isn't affecting me. I got mine.

Doesn't matter if YOU can drive year round. The cars don't sit in climate controlled comfort in Oshawa. They're OUTSIDE...and in Oshawa, if you haven't got the memo yet...gets COLD. So cold it can affect the tire situation.

GM is not going to play musical chairs with tires. If you don't like it, then wait until spring and put in your order. You can probably place an order with your dealer now and in February, they'll make yours.

It's out of your hands, and if you think you can change it, don't. Because you can't. The word has come down from the mountain. Get over it, get on with life. Go find a cure for cancer or something. It's a higher priority than ZL1/1LE orders.

Exactly!! And thus is why I laugh when I here someone say they don't drive in rain. Our Camaros sit outside in ALL kinds of weather before we buy them.

I love enjoying my Camaro every single day regardless of rain, snow, sleet, or sun. I don't understand why people put the car away unless they really don't feel safe driving in snow.

Very strange indeed... I drove my SS year round, rain, sleet, or snow.

Logistical nightmare.

The Goodyear tires on the ZL1 and 1LE are unique, and don't act like the Pirelli tires much at all. In short: they are phenomenal in the warm weather and simply mind-blowing on the track....but they absolutely hate cold weather. 40º and below: forget it. It's like trying to drive with tupperware lids bolted to the axles...

This makes me wonder what you're supposed to do if you take a weekend drive up to the mountains or something and it's a bit nippy outside? Do you get winter tires and put them on if there's a chance you'll see colder weather? Or is there a bit of hyperbole in this (and GM's) statement and it's fine for driving around as long as you're not trying to break records at the drag strip?

You get different tires if you need to drive below 40F, and its not just about the fact that the tires shouldnt be driven below 40F, but I guess some people didnt read my first post so ill say it again..

THESE TIRES CANNOT BE EXPOSED TO BELOW 20F

The tires can start to crack when they are exposed to those temperatures, and guess what the projected low in Oshawa is for Sunday? 23F and its not even December yet.

because i want to keep it around and they put a mixture of salt and ash on the roads that will eat a car like this befor its payed off. And I hate to see it covered with crap. Plus I have a 4x4 to drive in the winter. Once you have a 4x4 with 4 studded snow tires you will never want to drive a car in the snow again.

Of all the threads that get moved this one is a prime candidate. If it were in just the ZL1 and 1LE sections maybe so many heads wouldn't explode, lol.

hence, when i bought my car, i didnt want the RS package and summer only tires. i got a non rs with 19 inch all season tires. some tires are just made for certain types of driving and GM dont expect folks with ZL1 cars to be plowing down detroit snow.

hence why I bought a 1LE, these tires make this car what it is, and I have no problems having it sit in my warm garage and NEVER seeing snow (salt/mag chloride etc).

Here is a long post on all this as well:
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=328054

+1 :happy0180:

I've driven on the tires in every non-damaging condition imaginable (see: above 30º)...If the temperature falls below 45º...traction is SEVERELY compromised...just a little too much throttle and the car slides around. BUT!! If you're careful and knowledgable - you can drive the car. The concern becomes "what if you need to perform an emergency maneuver?"

....so, take that for what you will.

The summer tires on the rs and ss package cars is not effected by this bulletin there is no set minimum storage temp for the 20" pirellis so they can be shipped year round your all seasons might allow you to drive a little bit safer between 40 and 20 but in the end they are not snow tires, and they do get harder sooner than a dedicated winter tire would/

if i remember right last year they where holding them because the tires where cracking due to the cold weather before they shipped.

Actually,they do play musical chairs with tires.We get trucks in all the time with transport tires on them and the wheels and tires that they were ordered with,come via freight truck.

If GM wanted to ship those units,they could.They just don't want too.

So does that mean that those of us that have these tires on our cars need to store the tires in warmer conditions? In my case, my car is kept in a barn under a car cover, but the barn is not weather proof or insulated. It does however have a cement floor. Should I remove my wheels for winter and store them in my house? Thoughts?

PSB #2011-10

TO: Goodyear Contract Dealers, Goodyear Canada Inc. Dealers, Goodyear Company Owned Stores

Subject: Eagle F1 Supercar G:2 Summer Tires Not Recommended for Winter Use

Goodyear F1 Supercar G:2’s are D.O.T. approved ultra high performance summer tires with track capability. The rubber used in these tires loses flexibility and may develop surface cracks in the tire tread/shoulder area at colder temperatures. Goodyear does not recommend using these high performance summer tires when temperatures drop to approximately 40 deg F (5 deg C) or below, or in snow/ice conditions.


Tire Storage
Follow the general tire storage recommendations in Product Service Bulletin 2010-21, Proper Procedures for the Storage of Tires. Further, it is recommended for these tires to be stored indoors at temperatures above 20 deg F (-7 deg C) when not in use. If the tires have been subject to 20 deg F (-7 deg C) or less, let them warm up in a heated space to at least 40 deg F for 24 hours or more before installation or driving the vehicle. Inflate the tires only after they have been warmed above 40 deg F (5 deg C). Do not place tires near heaters or heating devices used to warm the room where the tires are stored. Do not apply heat or blow heated air directly on the tires. Always inspect tires before use after storage periods as outlined in the Proper Procedures for the Storage of Tires bulletin.

THE GOODYEAR TIRE & RUBBER COMPANY, GOODYEAR CANADA INC.
PRODUCT SERVICE DEPARTMENT

Good call.......I concur!
 

You make sense!

Wow those tires sound like a PITA. If I owned a car that used them I would definitely have a set of "Cold Weather Tires" to put on.

From the way that bulletin reads you can store the tires below 20 degrees, but you have to understand that they are going to be brittle. If you do anything that stresses the rubber; drive, inflate, etc., you run risk of cracking the tires. You must let them slowly warm up through and through before driving again.

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Remember this is still a business, lots of cars on lots maybe create a sense of urgency now, stack up orders till spring and bang out a bunch of them. With the amount of money spent developing these cars I find it hard to believe they couldn't deliver to warm climates. People get fired for much less every day, missing 1/4 of the production is a smoke screen NOT created by tires.

Really GM... tires???:facepalm:

Can you buy a set of daily driver wheels that will work for the 364 days a year you use the car otherwise, and for that one day when you want to break records you can put on these super-duper tires? Or is there some sort of reason you're stuck with summer only tires on the high performance cars?

I'm looking to get a ZL1 maybe a year or so from now once we know more about the 2016s, but it would be a daily driver... I'm not sure how much a consideration it would be in the decision, but it's a little disconcerting to find out how finicky the 'stock' tires are. For those one or two days a year here in Phoenix when we get below the 40's, or that spur of the moment trip up to the mountains it would be nice not having to consider my traction getting severely compromised or the tires cracking.

Sorry if I helped the thread go off topic. :/

When my ZL1 came in last January, I had the dealer put on Conti Extreme Contacts before I took delivery. In KY, we have a lot of nice days with cold temps. I'm very happy with the Contis. Sold my factory tires to a forum member. Everybody happy.

Geno

Just don't move the car if it's below 20, of which in MD is rarely an issue.

Good point. Although they are calling for temps around 23 this week and it is only November. :frown:

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Yes - TIRES.

You don't have to believe me - but I simply tell you to go look at this very site last March - people were upset because their 1LEs and ZL1s were sitting at the plant.............

Yes. Tires.

No conspiracy here.

I have a hard time believing GM would suspend production of $55000.00 cars because of tires unless they are obligated to mount GY F1s. My 13 was loaded to rail from Oshawa and transported via truck late January, then tested by the dealer Feb. 1, as as result the tires were severly cracked before I took delivery. Of course no one knew about the tires
at the dealership. It is my opinion the GM really layed an egg with these tires and now won't produce the cars because of them. How about all of the folks in the south that just have to wait :doh: