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Jay_LHD3 08-25-2010 12:13 PM

UFC 118: Randy Couture vs. James Toney (MMA vs. Boxing)
 
Who will win?

I can't decide!!!






Iwantone2 08-25-2010 12:21 PM

Hey, thanks for starting the thread!! Haven't had one in a long time, so it's good to bring back some discussion. I think Couture should not try to stand and exchange blows with Toney. He needs to take him to the ground and do some ground and pound.

ELA205 08-25-2010 12:25 PM

I think Randy is smart enough to stay away from the stand up. I have to say he will take it.

Jay_LHD3 08-25-2010 12:39 PM

I'm leaning toward Couture but, if Toney lands a punch...

The gloves are going to make a difference too. Toney is going to really feel the hits due to the MMA gloves, but then he will be wearing MMA gloves also.

I just don't know...


:iono:

Iwantone2 08-25-2010 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jfaber99 (Post 2259412)
I'm leaning toward Couture but, if Toney lands a punch...

The gloves are going to make a difference too. Toney is going to really feel the hits due to the MMA gloves, but then he will be wearing MMA gloves also.

I just don't know...


:iono:

Well believe me, if Toney lands a good punch and he feels it, Couture is gonna feel it even worse!!!

1badtie 08-25-2010 07:00 PM

this fight is stupid it will be exactly like when kimbo slice tried to get into the ufc and we all know what happend, he didnt make it very far although i am i kimbo fan...

1badtie 08-25-2010 07:01 PM

IMO boxers (which is what kimbo was, a standup fighter) will have no chance against a well rounded MMA fighter expesially like randy

lordfriday2 08-25-2010 07:08 PM

Toney has NO chance against Couture...

ffrcobra_65 08-25-2010 07:12 PM

Bottom line. If Captain America is able to take Lights Out down to the mat, LO will panic as he experiences for the first time what it is like to be on his back while someone is pummelling hard punches and elbows to your face or trying to break your arm in two pieces.

If Capt America tries to do his dirty boxing and fight standing up, he will experience for the first time what it is like to go toe to toe against a world class boxer who is almost impossible to hit squarely and can knock people out cold with 1 punch. If he thinks the knockout punch he took from the Iceman was hard, he better not get caught by one of Toney's.

I like Randy Couture but I am picking James Toney to win by knockout stoppage.

ffrcobra_65 08-25-2010 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1badtie (Post 2261010)
this fight is stupid it will be exactly like when kimbo slice tried to get into the ufc and we all know what happend, he didnt make it very far although i am i kimbo fan...

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1badtie (Post 2261017)
IMO boxers (which is what kimbo was, a standup fighter) will have no chance against a well rounded MMA fighter expesially like randy

You can't compare James Toney to Kimbo Slice. Not even close. Kimbo was a street brawler, a 30 second stand up puncher. Was a big hype, networks cashed in on that hype. That was all he was. James Toney ..well, if you don't know who he is, you really can't compare him to anyone, can you?

Jay_LHD3 08-25-2010 07:29 PM

I was kind of a Kimbo fan; not too much into street fighting though. After watching Kimbo on TUF I'm more of a fan now. He really showed that he was there to learn and he knew that he was not in the same league as the other guys, but was humble about it.

I don't think I would compare Kimbo to a world class boxer. Training to go 15 rounds in a ring is not the same as chasing someone in a backyard for 10 minutes.

The thing about this fight is, either guy could get one lucky punch, and the fight is over. Not giving either guy a chance to show the full potential of their discipline.

I would like to see this fight with two middleweights or lightweights!


:rolleyes:

ffrcobra_65, you beat me to it!!!

Iwantone2 08-26-2010 01:25 PM

Not to change the topic too much, but who do you think will win the Penn vs. Edgar fight?

I would want Penn to win this time around, but Edgar's got a good chance to win again :popcorn:

Jay_LHD3 08-26-2010 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Iwantone2 (Post 2264030)
Not to change the topic too much, but who do you think will win the Penn vs. Edgar fight?

I would want Penn to win this time around, but Edgar's got a good chance to win again :popcorn:

Watching the first fight I thought Edgar did more work and controlled the pace, but that BJ did more damage.

Then looking at the stats afterwards, BJ did more work. (So I guess I disagree with the judges! - this part edited!)

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Back to your question. I think BJ is going to try and finish this fight in the first round to make a statement; which is, Edgar is not at BJ's level. If he doesn't he will be gassed and we will see the same fight as before!

Also, BJ relies on talent more than conditioning, so if he gasses and Edgar (does the same as last time, with the same judges, he will win! - edited also!)

:rolleyes:

Jay_LHD3 08-26-2010 08:14 PM

Wow, my last post was full of fail before I edited it. I was thinking Penn won the first fight by decision. I guess I thought he should had won and so, I remembered him as winning!



:facepalm:

Iwantone2 08-27-2010 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jfaber99 (Post 2265623)
Wow, my last post was full of fail before I edited it. I was thinking Penn won the first fight by decision. I guess I thought he should had won and so, I remembered him as winning!



:facepalm:

no worries brother, i was a bit confused by your post, but didn't want to say anything.

Guess we'll find out tomorrow!!!

Jay_LHD3 08-29-2010 01:11 AM

I never want to see another Lentz fight again. That was extremely boring. :mad0260:

What a performance by Joe Lauzon; brutal win!!! :headbang:

I thought for sure they were going to stop the Nate - Davis fight. Davis looked messed up!

I expected Toney to at least throw one punch; that did not happen. :paddle: I don't think we will see anymore boxers for a while; unless they train in MMA for at least a couple of years first.

What is wrong with BJ? He needs to get mental help! :facepalm: All he did was one take-down at the beginning of the 4th and one at the beginning of the 5th. The rest was all Frankie! :iono:



<from wiki>
Preliminary card
Welterweight bout: Pierce defeated Alves via submission (cross-body armbar) at 3:11 of round 3.
Welterweight bout: Soto defeated Osipczak via unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28).
Middleweight bout: Miller defeated Salter via submission (anaconda choke) at 1:53 of round 2. This bout aired on Spike TV after the Lauzon vs. Ruediger fight.

Preliminary card (Spike TV)
Lightweight bout: Lentz defeated Winner via unanimous decision (30-27, 29-28, 30-27).
Lightweight bout: Lauzon defeated Ruediger via submission (armbar) at 2:01 of round 1.

Main card
Welterweight bout: Diaz defeated Davis via technical submission (guillotine choke) at 4:02 of round 3.
Lightweight bout: Maynard defeated Florian via unanimous decision (30-27, 30-27, 29-28).
Middleweight bout: Maia defeated Miranda via unanimous decision (30-27, 30-27, 30-27).
Heavyweight bout: Couture defeated Toney via submission (arm-triangle choke) at 3:19 of round 1.
Lightweight Championship bout: Edgar defeated Penn via unanimous decision (50-45, 50-45, 50-45).

slicker 08-29-2010 01:43 AM

well i just saw this tread and i was going to start a thread like this but the last time i did some one posted that ufc and camaro have nothing to do with each other. then i posted that the ufc was building ten camaro to sell off. the i saw that randy bought a camaro and silva bought one and then ufc had a comen gound with camaros. anyway the fight tonight was great and randy did what he always does, he took him to the ground and show toney that mma is not just boxing then after he beat him he gave respect to boxing. randy is a classy guy. Penn did not show up tonight and his prformance was not there im wodering if penn is looking to tie it up. it was a good night of fights. and the next one is sept 15th.

gr8daneh 08-29-2010 03:08 AM

FAIL!!!!

After all of the hype a 3 minute fight. Stopped at the local bar to watch this and was very disappointed. Oh well, Courture Won !!! ;) Yay for the 47 year olds!!!

Iwantone2 08-30-2010 11:35 AM

I have to say that the outcome of the Couture/Toney fight was predictable and I was really disappointed with most of the other fights. I have to apologize and say that I was not very impressed with the Penn/Edgar fight.


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