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LSxcellent 06-11-2007 09:53 PM

CTS-V Engine is ACTUALLY 6.2L Supercharged!
 
As I had guessed... Motortrend.com is now correcting itself and posting what we have talked about at length:

"UPDATE: Our sources have just confirmed that the supercharged V-8 that will power the 2009 Corvette SS/Z07/Blue Devil and the supercharged V-8 that will power the '09 Cadillac CTS-v will be 6.2 liters, not the 7.0-liter as we reported in our July issue. It makes sense in that General Motors was getting the horsepower, but not the torque it wanted from the 427.6 cubic-inch engine. Despite the engine difference, we continue to expect the CTS-v to come with some 600-horsepower when it arrives.
"

NOW everything is coming together... it makes waaay more sense. They will def. stick this engine in the new Camaro Z28 (IMHO), so we can hope for BIG things!

~LSx

Mindz 06-11-2007 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LSxcellent (Post 13127)
NOW everything is coming together... it makes waaay more sense. They will def. stick this engine in the new Camaro SS (IMHO), so we can hope for BIG things!

~LSx



Fixed. :thumbsup:

Mr. Wyndham 06-11-2007 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LSxcellent (Post 13127)
As I had guessed... Motortrend.com is now correcting itself and posting what we have talked about at length:

"UPDATE: Our sources have just confirmed that the supercharged V-8 that will power the 2009 Corvette SS/Z07/Blue Devil and the supercharged V-8 that will power the '09 Cadillac CTS-v will be 6.2 liters, not the 7.0-liter as we reported in our July issue. It makes sense in that General Motors was getting the horsepower, but not the torque it wanted from the 427.6 cubic-inch engine. Despite the engine difference, we continue to expect the CTS-v to come with some 600-horsepower when it arrives.
"

NOW everything is coming together... it makes waaay more sense. They will def. stick this engine in the new Camaro Z28 (IMHO), so we can hope for BIG things!

~LSx

I don't follow...How can GM be putting the top engine of the biggest-baddest Corvette ever built in the Camaro?...I can't see it...

selil 06-11-2007 11:05 PM

Actually GM only makes one engine. They just tune the engine for MPG or HP through the computer settings. A few computer tweaks and a Impala can do 0-60 in 2.3 seconds...



Really!

LSxcellent 06-12-2007 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by selil (Post 13135)
Actually GM only makes one engine. They just tune the engine for MPG or HP through the computer settings. A few computer tweaks and a Impala can do 0-60 in 2.3 seconds...



Really!

:bs:

Um... no it can't. I don't care what you say, that car (FWD!) cannot do 0-60 in 2.3 seconds. You could add a freakin' JATO rocket to the back, and it STILL won't do that.

~LSx

Mr. Wyndham 06-12-2007 11:07 AM

If you say so... one engine...alright I guess.

Silverado 06-12-2007 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by selil (Post 13135)
Actually GM only makes one engine. They just tune the engine for MPG or HP through the computer settings. A few computer tweaks and a Impala can do 0-60 in 2.3 seconds...



Really!


Really? I see you drive an Avalanche....do you suppose the guy down the street driving a Cobalt has the same engine as yours, just tuned for MPG rather than HP?

How about the Vette on the other block? Same engine as yours just tuned for....oh wait, the Vette has more HP and more MPG than your Avalanche. But I thought they used the same engine, just tuned for HP or MPG.

Come on man, did you really just say that with a straight face? Please tell us you were joking.

Mr. Wyndham 06-12-2007 11:28 AM

I hate to gang up on you, man. But I agree. GM makes multiple engines, but I'll give you this: Most of them share similarities. That's it!

Eisenhower 06-12-2007 11:29 AM

GM makes a slew of engines. From that tiny wind-up in the Chevy Aveo to commercial fleet trucks.

Mr. Wyndham 06-12-2007 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Eisenhower (Post 13175)
GM makes a slew of engines. From that tiny wind-up in the Chevy Aveo to commercial fleet trucks.

:laughabove::laughabove::laughabove::laughabove:i like that!! Wind up, Haha!

TAG UR IT 06-12-2007 11:54 AM

I was going to say something too. But, I knew he just couldn't be serious. I took it as being fesicious (spelling right?). Because in that case, I think I'd just go get my 4th Gen tuned so I could pump out the Z06's 505hp and I'd say screw getting a new car. I've got everything right here! Yeah...I'm pretty sure he's joking.

Eisenhower 06-12-2007 01:54 PM

Here's what I'm hoping for... 505+ hp Z -- 600 hp SS.

To the best of my knowledge, in the past GM has kept the Camaro & Trans Am's up to par with it's line of high-end Caddy's (HP wise). For example, Cadillac's NorthStar engine having 300 hp while regular z28's, firehawks & ss's have had 300+.

Maybe it'll never happen but I'm hoping that with Cadillacs involvement, the SS Camaro will get a high-end upgrade. Even if it's a Limited Edition like what Ford's doing with the Shelby GT500.

3whiterag 06-12-2007 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by selil (Post 13135)
Actually GM only makes one engine. They just tune the engine for MPG or HP through the computer settings. A few computer tweaks and a Impala can do 0-60 in 2.3 seconds...



Really!

In my area of the plant, GM Powertrain St. Catharines, we make the LS2, LS3, LS4, LH6, LSA and that is just the Aluminum blocks. There is also the Cast Iron blocks and engines and the high feature V6 (HFV6) block machining and assembly area. So, in my books, just in our plant alone, that is more than one engine! :)
I guess if we are not sure about what we are saying, then it is best left unsaid! Maybe he was thinking of toyota who puts the same engine in all their cars from the premium priced lexus on down. But then again, maybe you just pulled one over on us! :D

EllwynX 06-12-2007 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragoneye (Post 13176)
:laughabove::laughabove::laughabove::laughabove:i like that!! Wind up, Haha!

No No No It's 102 Hamsters all running around a wheel!!! (The 103rd Hamster is set aside to make the silly chirp when you lock the doors/set the alarm.)

I've called my Aveo the Hamstermobile for months...

Mr. Wyndham 06-12-2007 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 3whiterag (Post 13194)
I guess if we are not sure about what we are saying, then it is best left unsaid! Maybe he was thinking of toyota who puts the same engine in all their cars from the premium priced lexus on down. But then again, maybe you just pulled one over on us! :D

HAHA!! :laughabove::laughabove:OMG! I'm rolling on the floor right now, haha!
Hmm. all better now. If he/you was/are serious (we may have scared him away...) he may have been thinking about the "small-block" designation. And thinking that it meant the same engine black all the way around.

selil 06-13-2007 12:21 AM

Aw come on it was a joke!

Though it's not like they are really that different. They all have pistons, cylinders, and valves. If you want REALLY different you'd have to go to a wankel (rotary) motor...

In reality now I've been trying to source a new motor for my CJ7 Jeep and all of the used engine guys have been looking at me weird when I say "Which 5.7 Liter is that V8?"... I've heard "they're all the same" so many times. Never mind the difference in complexity between fuel injection and carbs.

I think I've decided to go with a 5.3L like what is in my Avalanche as a few companies are making the computers to allow that kind of install. It is also almost as light as the AMC 258 20 year old six cylinder in there now. Which blows my mind.

Engines really they are all the same..... :) <--- see smiley?

stevenm357 06-13-2007 12:38 AM

GM has always given it's consumers the most interchangable parts on the market all of their engine blocks and trans housings bold up in trucks. parts swap over insanely easy.... that's what made Gm #1 for so long.

They have many engine configurations... very similar blocks but many different parts that go on to make the long block

Mr. Wyndham 06-13-2007 01:42 AM

Iknew it was a joke...hrm, hem. :D I did know you couldn't have been that stupid, to think that all engines were the same, and only tuned different.

Sorry, if I did come off harsh...didn't mean it!;)

TAG UR IT 06-13-2007 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TAG UR IT (Post 13179)
I was going to say something too. But, I knew he just couldn't be serious. I took it as being fesicious (spelling right?). Because in that case, I think I'd just go get my 4th Gen tuned so I could pump out the Z06's 505hp and I'd say screw getting a new car. I've got everything right here! Yeah...I'm pretty sure he's joking.

:thumbsup:

3whiterag 06-13-2007 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by selil (Post 13223)
Aw come on it was a joke!

Though it's not like they are really that different. They all have pistons, cylinders, and valves. If you want REALLY different you'd have to go to a wankel (rotary) motor...

In reality now I've been trying to source a new motor for my CJ7 Jeep and all of the used engine guys have been looking at me weird when I say "Which 5.7 Liter is that V8?"... I've heard "they're all the same" so many times. Never mind the difference in complexity between fuel injection and carbs.

I think I've decided to go with a 5.3L like what is in my Avalanche as a few companies are making the computers to allow that kind of install. It is also almost as light as the AMC 258 20 year old six cylinder in there now. Which blows my mind.

Engines really they are all the same..... :) <--- see smiley?

You got me!!!:)

selil 06-14-2007 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevenm357 (Post 13224)
GM has always given it's consumers the most interchangable parts on the market all of their engine blocks and trans housings bold up in trucks. parts swap over insanely easy.... that's what made Gm #1 for so long.

They have many engine configurations... very similar blocks but many different parts that go on to make the long block


Here's a bit of trivia. GM has used basically the same bolt pattern for the bell housing for EVERY V8 (small block) and V6 since something like 1958? It's the standard pattern and Cummings diesels (4bt) use that pattern for their adapter plate in the Frito Lay and Wonder Bread box vans.

Mr. Wyndham 06-14-2007 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by selil (Post 13378)
Here's a bit of trivia. GM has used basically the same bolt pattern for the bell housing for EVERY V8 (small block) and V6 since something like 1958? It's the standard pattern and Cummings diesels (4bt) use that pattern for their adapter plate in the Frito Lay and Wonder Bread box vans.

Remind me what a bell housing is?

And why change something that works? Same deal with the pushrod argument...

1958...hmm. Proves they still do make 'em like they used to, huh?;)
And all the small blocks share the basic block design.

Maven 06-26-2007 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by selil (Post 13378)
Here's a bit of trivia. GM has used basically the same bolt pattern for the bell housing for EVERY V8 (small block) and V6 since something like 1958? It's the standard pattern and Cummings diesels (4bt) use that pattern for their adapter plate in the Frito Lay and Wonder Bread box vans.

It would be 1955, and its small block, big block, 90 degree v6(200,229,265), as well as L6 and L4 pushrod engines but not the "W" motors(348, 409) or the 60 degree v6s(2.8,3.1,3.4,3.5,3.9,these share the small bellhousing pattern with the likes of the 3.8 buick and the northstar)


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