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mike.nite 10-24-2010 12:50 PM

My Intake / Exhaust setup: injen bbk borla magnaflow
 
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Finally found some time to take pics and audio clips. Here is what I have:

- Injen short ram intake
- BBK ceramic coated longtube headers
- BBK highflow cats (came with the LT headers)
- Borla ProXS mufflers (2.25" in/out)
- Custom piping (2.25")
- Magnaflow double walled 4" tips


Sound:
*****

I am very happy with the result. The sound is way over my expectations. Drove the last 3 weeks permanently with stereo off to hear the setup in every possible situation.
I would say the tone is deeper than most of the other aftermarket setups I heard. Met a friend with a SS last wknd and I have to say that IMO this setup sounds better at idle than the stock SS exhaust.

I know it is hard to compare different setups without hearing them in person. I listened to almost every single clip available online and I think the best comparison is with a BBK+Magnaflow axle back setup. The Borla ProXS muffler sound similar to the Magnaflow mufflers but not as loud.
So I would say the Borla ProXS mufflers sound like Magnaflow mufflers with a resonated X pipe.

For me the most important thing was to get the deepest possible tone with no rasp, no drone and no tinny sound! Glad I found what I was looking for. Thanks to the whole camaro5 community!
I'd like to especially thank KMPrenger and digitalshow for all the infos.


Look:
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I love the look of the ceramic coated BBK LTs. As for the tips the magnaflow double walled tips seem to play in a complete other league than all the other tips I bought before. They don't get as hot as others (which is very important because big 4" outlet diameter v.s. plastic diffusor). And they are easy to clean. IMO if you want the perfect look - a 4" outlet diameter is the way to go!


Performance:
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Made a before and after Dyno. I am happy with the results. Will post dynosheets and more infos later.



Clips and Pics:
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Here are some audio clips. As alsways you'll need good (over ear) headphones to hear everything. The clips were recorded with a iPhone 3G. The sound quality was way better than with my HD cam but I stil couln't catch all of the deep tones. So in person the systems sounds even deeper with more and different bass tones.


1. Coldstart (Outdoor):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlFAx7TX9gI

2. Coldstart (Indoor):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSbFY3NWGwM

3. Hotstart:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDBQW9TAHSg

4. Some revs (1'500 - 3'700 rpms):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaMb_-mWgP4

5. Normal take off:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiJ3Hl0b7Ds

6. Normal drive by:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFKN87d3Wxg

7. Very good clip from member Digitalshow (without headers):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukcmPW2IxbY



Here are some pics:

jagan323 10-24-2010 01:04 PM

Your coldstart would sound more impressive, if it wasnt in an underground parking lot with lots of echo and where the sound cracked lol. Sounds like a very cool list of stuff, I can't really say I like it cuz the video is not doing justice. I'm fairly confident your setup sounds beast =p

KMPrenger 10-24-2010 01:04 PM

I thought I'd like your setup...and I most certainly DO!! Good stuff right there. Really appreciate those pics and sound clips mike.

I'm sure you didn't mind driving around with the music off for all that time when it sounds so good lol.

Of course...adding to sticky.

mike.nite 10-24-2010 04:58 PM

@Jagan: You're absolutely right with the underground parking lot. My only problem is that this is my garage kept wknd car. So almost every coldstart is indoors =D But thanks for your confidence! I can tell you it sounds better than a beast - it sounds like a CAMARO =p


@KMPrenger: Thank you for adding my setup to the HALL of FAME ! :laugh: Let me know if you need any other infos, pics, clips.

2011CamaroV6newbee 10-24-2010 07:53 PM

So you took a video, then synced it to the audio. I hear a door close but no one got in. A cold start with no brake lights. Please explain.

KMPrenger 10-24-2010 08:00 PM

For the cold start, he could have just remote started it like I did in my videos....cept usually in a garage unless it is well lit, the lights will come on automatically.

Anyways, it don't matter how they were done, they are good.

LoneStar 10-24-2010 08:03 PM

I think they are audio clips w/ the last picture he has posted in the 1st post. Good sound clips though! :w00t:

jagan323 10-24-2010 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarCamaro (Post 2477429)
I think they are audio clips w/ the last picture he has posted in the 1st post. Good sound clips though! :w00t:

+1

mike.nite 10-25-2010 04:39 PM

Yep - all of them are audio clips with a added snapshots. The sound quality was better than with my hd cam. So I thought it is more important to have better sound quality than see me starting/reving/driving.

Again I am very happy with the results. My favorite sound is at 1'500-2'500 rpms - because there the growl is extra deep. Oh...and of course the coldstarts!

SUV2008 10-25-2010 05:08 PM

Mike...sounds awesome! Glad you decided on the Magnaflow tips! Cannot wait to see the dyno sheets!

Good job man.

mike.nite 10-26-2010 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUV2008 (Post 2480732)
Mike...sounds awesome! Glad you decided on the Magnaflow tips! Cannot wait to see the dyno sheets!

Good job man.


Thank you very much - appreciate it. Your soundclip was the reason I almost droped my borla order! But I am glad that I went with the magnaflow tips - never saw a better quality. Thanks for helping me with the PNs btw!

mike.nite 11-21-2010 05:18 PM

UPDATE:
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As requested I've just uploaded a new soundclip of a outdoor coldstart.

I am stil in love with the deep growl of this setup!

VR Baron 11-25-2010 09:32 AM

One of the best I've heard, does sound more v8 like. Nice deep low tones and rumble.:headbang:

mike.nite 11-25-2010 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackbee (Post 2580229)
One of the best I've heard, does sound more v8 like. Nice deep low tones and rumble.:headbang:


Thank you very much BB - Appreciate your feedback since you also did a lot of research before choosing your exhaust system ;)

csjcsj 11-25-2010 05:45 PM

Sounds good! At first I didn't know it was a V6! Didn't have that raspy sound! Good setup!

VR Baron 11-26-2010 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mike.nite (Post 2581091)
Thank you very much BB - Appreciate your feedback since you also did a lot of research before choosing your exhaust system ;)

Thanks and you're welcome. I wish I could get mine to sound like that! But I think the LT'S and cats you have are the ones getting the deep growl tamed by the mufflers. I can't do that in Kali:mad0260:I,m thinking on removing the stock resonaters which will give me close to a full Magnaflow catback with the D/T's may make it a bit deeper from what I'm hearing. We'll see..

mike.nite 11-28-2010 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csjcsj (Post 2581227)
Sounds good! At first I didn't know it was a V6! Didn't have that raspy sound! Good setup!


Thanks csjcsj - Thats probably the greatest compliment you can get for a aftermarket exhaust.

Make my V6 sound more like a V8 without the raspy sound was exactly what I wanted to achieve. Thanks.

mike.nite 11-28-2010 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackbee (Post 2582782)
But I think the LT'S and cats you have are the ones getting the deep growl tamed by the mufflers.

Yeah - the LTs and highflow cats definately changed the sound. But those can also make the sound more tinny! So together with the wrong mufflers the LT and cats make the setup sound terribel and absolutely ricey.
Thatswhy I spent a lot of time comparing all the different mufflers and ended up with medium tamed mufflers. I would never go any louder/ less tamed.

BTW - Do you also have a soundclip of your setup? I like the headers/resonated-X-pipe combos.

VR Baron 11-28-2010 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike.nite (Post 2588707)
Yeah - the LTs and highflow cats definately changed the sound. But those can also make the sound more tinny! So together with the wrong mufflers the LT and cats make the setup sound terribel and absolutely ricey.
Thatswhy I spent a lot of time comparing all the different mufflers and ended up with medium tamed mufflers. I would never go any louder/ less tamed.

BTW - Do you also have a soundclip of your setup? I like the headers/resonated-X-pipe combos.

No I never did. I need to along with pics.

Birm 02-07-2011 07:40 PM

Hey guys, hopefully this isnt a dead thread as I am new to the forums. I just got my 2010 Camaro LT1 (I know not an RS or SS) but for the price I could not aruge (20k out the door-guy was filing for bankruptcy etc...) anywho..I have already done the CAI now I am looking to improve the sound and performance of the stock exhaust. I am looking for an affordable way to do it if there is such a thing. If someone could please give me any info, or tell me how much a similar setup to the one posted here ran. Thank you ahead of time for your help.

KMPrenger 02-07-2011 09:19 PM

Birm,

Welcome to the forums!! The BBK long tube headers are what really give this setup some great low growl...not that you can't have a good sounding exhaust without headers. You certainly can!....I really enjoy mine and I don't have headers (maybe sometime in the future lol).

But doing header isn't usually cheap either depending on what you get...the quality, shorties versus long tube,and other factors. I'm thinking this setup would run you around $900 to $1000 on parts alone, and so you'd still have installation to worry about.

But if you just want to do exhaust for now, you can get away with something nice for roughly half that cost.

If you want to do headers later on, make sure you do your research and be sure you think you'll enjoy the sound with headers. Shorty headers typically make any exhaust sound a bit better, but long tube headers can really make a crazy exhaust tone, so if you didn't want something really loud you'd need to be choosy on the exhaust you pair it with.

If you haven't yet, check out the V6 exhaust sticky thread at the top of the V6 section.

Good luck!

mike.nite 02-08-2011 05:10 PM

Thank you for the interest in my setup. The numerous requests I recieved via PMs confirmed me that I did everything right when I choosed my aftermarket componets. So the hours spent on investigation were definately worth it :thumbsup:

Now back to your questions. KMP is absolutely correct (as allways when it comes to exhaust quesstions :)). The LT headers realy changed the sound. But it is very important to combine them with the right mufflers to achieve the sound you're looking for. If the mufflers can't tame the crazy loudness and the tinny sound elements of the headers it will sound annoying. (As long as you don't like the raspy ricer sound).
Since you posted in this thread I guess you also want your setup to sound as deep as possible. So I realy suggest to get more muffled components like borla mufflers or at least "magnaflow mufflers WITH resonated X pipe".

As for the costs. I think you can find the Borla axleback for about $700.
I bought just the mufflers for $ 90 each and made the two pipes needed (from muffler to tip) by myself. So with my beautyfull double walled magnaflow tips and some 2.25" piping my exhaust cost about $300.

I was lucky with the headers as well. Because they listed the wrong PNs in the JEGS-onlinestore I got the ceramic coated LTs for the price of the chrome ones. I ended up paying $679 instead of $799.


So my exhaust cost me about 1 grand and some labor time. Definately worth it.

hapisok 02-08-2011 05:34 PM

you've got a great sounding ride bro. definitely has that nice low rumble to it. i like it :happyanim:

mike.nite 02-08-2011 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hapisok (Post 2817706)
you've got a great sounding ride bro. definitely has that nice low rumble to it. i like it :happyanim:


Thanks bro - You shure have good taste when it comes to exhaust mods. Just watched your clips. :thumbup: BBK is the way to go.

hapisok 02-08-2011 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike.nite (Post 2817800)
Thanks bro - You shure have good taste when it comes to exhaust mods. Just watched your clips. :thumbup: BBK is the way to go.

spent the last 7mo's(not sure how many hours total) listening to everybody else's mods before making my decision and it wasn't easy. giving the camaro a personality that sets it apart from everybody else's, to me, is the best mod one can make...making it your own.

big thanks goes out to those who stepped up making the first exhaust mod's for the rest of us to hear.


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