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BeckyD@RodgersChevrolet 12-17-2010 10:15 AM

Camaro Convertible Radio Antenna Is Hidden in the...
 
Reported on HOMEPAGE.

DETROIT – When spy shots surfaced of the pre-production version of the 2011 Chevrolet Camaro Convertible, an outcry went up among Camaro enthusiasts over the AM/FM whip antenna positioned on the rear deck lid.

Quite simply, they hated it.

Chevrolet was quick to respond, commissioning a self-described antenna freak named Don Hibbard to find a way to fix it. “Antennas are a beautiful thing to me,” says Hibbard, an antenna test performance engineer.

Engineers working on Camaro are passionate to drive perfection into every aspect of the vehicle. Hibbard and colleague Gregg Kittinger had to do what some thought was impossible: conceal the AM/FM antenna without sacrificing radio reception, while not putting it inside the Camaro's windows. The two, who share three other patents, happily accepted the challenge.

“We weren’t sure that it would be possible,” said Kittinger. “Typically antennas are hidden in a vehicle’s rear window, but with a retractable soft-top roof, that’s not an option.”

So they came up with a novel approach – hide the antenna inside the rear spoiler. No one had tried that on a Chevrolet before because of the hit to radio reception.

“We responded to a legitimate criticism from devoted Chevrolet Camaro enthusiasts and in 10 months found an innovative way to improve the overall aesthetics of the vehicle without sacrificing performance and quality,” said Kittinger.

While the shark fin antenna that transmits XM Satellite Radio, OnStar and cellular signals is still present on the car's deck lid, the built-in spoiler antenna eliminates the need for a longer, separate whip antenna to receive AM and FM radio signals.

Hibbard, a lifelong Ham radio enthusiast, says the unorthodox placement of the antenna within the body of the vehicle created a number of technical challenges, such as balancing form by preserving the car’s styling and function of unimpeded audio reception.

“Where other automakers have tried and failed, Chevy succeeded,” said Hibbard. “We hope to take what we’ve learned with the Camaro Convertible, build on it and apply it to future vehicles.”

The 2011 Camaro Convertible arrives in dealer showrooms this February.

:thumbsup:

CamaroCowboy 12-17-2010 10:28 AM

Just one question? what happens if said buyer want to change to an aftermarket spoiler?

CamaroSkooter 12-17-2010 10:29 AM

Unless said aftermarket spoiler has an antenna built in, you're SOL I guess...

Sandor 12-17-2010 11:43 AM

GM Media story: Camaro convertible antenna solution
 
From the GM Media site, the Camaro convertible antenna solution....

http://media.gm.com/content/media/us.../121710_camaro


Chevy Turns to Ham Radio Geek for Antenna Solution

Camaro Convertible is on his wavelength

2010-12-17


DETROIT – When spy shots surfaced of the pre-production version of the 2011 Chevrolet Camaro Convertible, an outcry went up among Camaro enthusiasts over the AM/FM whip antenna positioned on the rear deck lid.
Quite simply, they hated it.

Chevrolet was quick to respond, commissioning a self-described antenna freak named Don Hibbard to find a way to fix it. “Antennas are a beautiful thing to me,” says Hibbard, an antenna test performance engineer.
Engineers working on Camaro are passionate to drive perfection into every aspect of the vehicle. Hibbard and colleague Gregg Kittinger had to do what some thought was impossible: conceal the AM/FM antenna without sacrificing radio reception, while not putting it inside the Camaro's windows. The two, who share three other patents, happily accepted the challenge.

“We weren’t sure that it would be possible,” said Kittinger. “Typically antennas are hidden in a vehicle’s rear window, but with a retractable soft-top roof, that’s not an option.”

So they came up with a novel approach – hide the antenna inside the rear spoiler. No one had tried that on a Chevrolet before because of the hit to radio reception.

“We responded to a legitimate criticism from devoted Chevrolet Camaro enthusiasts and in 10 months found an innovative way to improve the overall aesthetics of the vehicle without sacrificing performance and quality,” said Kittinger.

While the shark fin antenna that transmits XM Satellite Radio, OnStar and cellular signals is still present on the car's deck lid, the built-in spoiler antenna eliminates the need for a longer, separate whip antenna to receive AM and FM radio signals.

Hibbard, a lifelong Ham radio enthusiast, says the unorthodox placement of the antenna within the body of the vehicle created a number of technical challenges, such as balancing form by preserving the car’s styling and function of unimpeded audio reception.

“Where other automakers have tried and failed, Chevy succeeded,” said Hibbard. “We hope to take what we’ve learned with the Camaro Convertible, build on it and apply it to future vehicles.”

The 2011 Camaro Convertible arrives in dealer showrooms this February.

Kilo-9 12-17-2010 11:48 AM

Cool! Thinking outside the box is one of the reasons that makes me confident that the "new GM" will succeed.

SSN8R 12-17-2010 11:55 AM

Normally I fight for those that repost but...

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=120435

Aboout two threads below yours...:facepalm:

Sandor 12-17-2010 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSN8R (Post 2646633)
Normally I fight for those that repost but...

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=120435

Aboout two threads below yours...:facepalm:

Sorry about that, I looked and must have missed it! Just trying to spread good Camaro news, hopefully that's not a facepalm offense.

2010 Bumblebee 12-17-2010 01:12 PM

Why not just put it in the windshield like they use to do ?

INTIMIDAT3R 12-17-2010 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2010 Bumblebee (Post 2646867)
Why not just put it in the windshield like they use to do ?

Sure, then they could listen to everyone B***H about it being in the windshield.

2010victoryredss_ron 12-17-2010 07:17 PM

very interesting story

MikeL 12-17-2010 07:20 PM

A.) People still use the radio? :sm0:
B.) I hope they truly did preserve the reception. Reception is bad enough for me with normal antennas.
C.) GOOD WORK! :thumbsup: I love innovation, it leads to bigger and better things.

camaro2lt 12-17-2010 07:21 PM

what about when you build it on chevy.com and that long antena come up on the rear trunk lid is that real or is it just the website?

Allanski 12-17-2010 07:24 PM

:needpics:

BeckyD@RodgersChevrolet 12-17-2010 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Allanski (Post 2647845)
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The work in progress....

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alfie43 12-17-2010 11:13 PM

Radio Antenna on the Convertable
 
There were some negative comments about the design of the whip radio antenna shown on the early spy shots of the 2011 Convertible.

Here is the inside story out of Detroit.

Alfie

http://www.examiner.com/automotive-t...poiler-antenna

ss/rs shevy 12-18-2010 10:10 AM

Interesting indeed. Innovative and clever.
ss/rs

slick rick 12-18-2010 11:08 AM

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=120437
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=120435

midnighter 12-18-2010 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeL (Post 2647832)
A.) People still use the radio? :sm0:
B.) I hope they truly did preserve the reception. Reception is bad enough for me with normal antennas.
C.) GOOD WORK! :thumbsup: I love innovation, it leads to bigger and better things.

I was bummed that they didn't offer a cassette player option. :(

alfie43 12-18-2010 11:31 AM

Ooops! Didn't see that. Thanks. I will delete my post

(edit) ....tried....can't delete.

Alfie

Grandeos 12-18-2010 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camaro2lt (Post 2647837)
what about when you build it on chevy.com and that long antena come up on the rear trunk lid is that real or is it just the website?

The company who builds the Build-Your-Own function of the Chevy website messed up...... evidently. :facepalm:

Morepwr 12-18-2010 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2010 Bumblebee (Post 2646867)
Why not just put it in the windshield like they use to do ?

:word: Thats where it is in my 70 cutlass and you can barely notice it and it picks up station great.

Revo1 12-18-2010 02:13 PM

Very cool! Glad to know our vices are heard!

L05ER 12-18-2010 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morepwr (Post 2649427)
:word: Thats where it is in my 70 cutlass and you can barely notice it and it picks up station great.


i never notice it in my 71 monte... unless i take a picture through my windshield (5th gen camaros, funny plates/stickers, undercover cops, etc...)

i don't mind a whip antenna really... the bigger issue for me is the turd, er i mean third brake light. should have been in the spoiler, as the shark fin would look much better in the current third brake light spot. it just looks out of place in the middle of the trunk lid.

Xello 12-18-2010 04:39 PM

I think hiding the antenna in the spoiler is a great idea for the convertible. Although I agree there may be some issues when doing a mod on the spoiler. I don't think adding the third stop light in the spolier wouldv'e been a good idea though because all spoiler mods would then have to have a third stop light included.

Z28RockStar 12-18-2010 05:21 PM

Wow thank goodness they fixed that! I can buy a vert now! WHOOOHOOOO!!!

. . . . . . . . . jokes.

waiting on mah Z28! :)


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