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Thewall279 03-30-2011 11:18 PM

Flowmaster Super 40's Dual IN/OUT - Custom Setup - Great Sound
 
UPDATED: 5/2/2013
Figured i'd let you guys know how the exhaust is after 2 years of having it installed.... It Kicks Ass... I was originally worried about sound from inside the car but surprisingly it's not as bad as my first few months...
UPDATED: 5/7/2011
Went to Caffeine and Octane last weekend and got a quick video of the my car on take off... I've had the exhaust over a month now and I can say if you are thinking about getting a new exhaust i HIGHLY recommend this. It was loud in the beginning but its definitely toned down inside the car. Watch this my brother took of me leaving the car show. Sound quality isn't the best but w/e... u will still get the point. There is also a TranAm right behind me u will only hear it for the last second or two but it'll give u a good comparison.

I know everyone says this about their car but i have been pretty honest in this thread so far... i think this exhaust was done perfectly. It's exactly what i was trying to do. Moving the muffler as close to the H pipe as possible almost completely eliminates the rasp of a the V6. And this is coming from a super 40!! Super 40's are very free breathing mufflers so this exhaust would usually sound raspy on a V6 at higher rpm's but i can red line and keep it "tuned". This is the most muscular sounding V6 that i've heard.
A guy at the car show described it perfectly... He said it sounds like a quiet GTR... A mix of a ferarri, G35, and a muscle car. It stays tuned and no rasp and still has the gargle and muscle sound.

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UPDATED: 4/13/2011
This video is from after the break in(about two weeks):
I hit redline in this video... Wanted to show how it stays tuned.


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It took a while but finally decided on a new exhaust. I wanted to try something new and so far its a huge success. I found one v6 camaro with super 40's and really like the loud sound, but wanted a little more tune. I also saw a few video's of people putting dual in dual out magnaflow mufflers and liked the sound but wanted some more rumble. So i put the two together and it sounds AMAZING!

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3/30/2011

I bought a Flowmaster Super 40's muffler (Dual in Dual out) from Summit Racing for $95 and some extra 2.5" tubing(Nobody has done this yet, I wanted something new, and i was really interested to see how it would end up). I located the muffler where the resonators used to be. This is a good location because its not to close to the tips which helps keep down the raspy sound of the V6 at high RPM's. In order to fit the muffler here we did have to make some adjustments. The muffler is 10" body length and we only had about 11". We had to bend some heat shield and do some heat and hammer tweaking. We technically could have fit the muffler but i didn't want it hanging to low. I don't think this is a problem for one of the dual in dual out magnaflow's because its 8.5" body length.

After the muffler it's just straight pipes until the tips. If anyone is thinking about doing this heres my first impression. ITS REALLY LOUD. Almost having second thoughts because its so loud. I just finished it about an hour ago so ill let you guys know in a few days how i feel but its not anywhere close to stock. It definitely sounds amazing, i think they best yet, but its also the first i have heard in person. All of us working on the car looked at eachother in awe, it is way louder than expected. The video will not do this justice(Like everyone says, and now i know what they mean) but the bass is incredible. It sounds like a mix between a ferarri, a croch rocket, and a G35/350Z. I don't know yet if its for an everyday driver but for a fun weekend car HELL YEH.

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ALL VIDEOS AND PHOTOS:


Here's the video. I will upload more video's later on.
This video is from the day after the install:

This video is from after the break in(about two weeks):



Here are some pics of the install...

So, Let me know what you think!!

http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/..._2440327_o.jpg

http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/...1_783165_o.jpg

http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/..._6124292_o.jpg

http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/..._5252622_o.jpg

Before
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/..._6129486_o.jpg
After
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/..._5590007_o.jpg

Oh and make sure you screw the heat shield back on before you drive off!!!

25thanniversary 03-30-2011 11:26 PM

looks good

V6owner 03-30-2011 11:33 PM

Cant wait to hear what it sounds like, but you did a nice job there

tjbusa 03-30-2011 11:36 PM

I like it, stock is just too quiet. What kind of tips did you put on????

Thewall279 03-31-2011 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjbusa (Post 3033258)
I like it, stock is just too quiet. What kind of tips did you put on????

I reused the old tips for now. I have a few idea's for the tips and the factory ones don't look bad.

Sorry guys but the video i took is still messed up... ill take a new one tomorrow. Ill get a drive by, take off, and all that good stuff as well.

Demon Hunter 03-31-2011 12:05 AM

Nice. Really interested to hear how it sounds. Should be a beast! Curious if you'll have rattling problems with how tightly the muffler is fit with the heat shield.

Thewall279 03-31-2011 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demon Hunter (Post 3033339)
Nice. Really interested to hear how it sounds. Should be a beast! Curious if you'll have rattling problems with how tightly the muffler is fit with the heat shield.

I haven't driven it much yet but yeh i am honestly REALLY worried about that. Tomorrow morning i have to raise it to screw it the heat shield... Forgot that part... so right now yes there is rattling but ill let you know tomorrow once i get that screwed in.

J.L.TYCHE 03-31-2011 12:29 AM

Looks good,let's hear it

inkdemon 03-31-2011 10:51 AM

Nice and clean looking!!

KMPrenger 03-31-2011 11:34 AM

Wow, really looking forward to hearing this.

It looks like it hangs quite a bit lower than stock, which would worry me. My fiancee used to live at an apartment and the entrance was tricky for me to get in. Had to come in slowly at an angle, else the under side would drag, and that was on a stock height car.

Luckily, now shes living with me lol.

Thewall279 03-31-2011 01:16 PM

Alright I took a new video just now and uploaded it on youtube for you guys. I don't have much time so i was only able to get a startup and rev... Ill get a few different ones. Here's the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnxG9MVxtcw

Quote:

Originally Posted by KMPrenger (Post 3034927)
Wow, really looking forward to hearing this.

It looks like it hangs quite a bit lower than stock, which would worry me. My fiancee used to live at an apartment and the entrance was tricky for me to get in. Had to come in slowly at an angle, else the under side would drag, and that was on a stock height car.

Luckily, now shes living with me lol.

^^^
It does hang a little lower but we put a plank of wood accross it to see how low it is and it's not very far. I haven't had a problem with speed bumps today.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demon Hunter (Post 3033339)
Nice. Really interested to hear how it sounds. Should be a beast! Curious if you'll have rattling problems with how tightly the muffler is fit with the heat shield.

^^^
I fixed the heat shield problem i was talking about and yes the muffler is closer with hardly any clearance BUT ZERO rattling... Downshifts, hard acceleration we tried to make it rattle and heard nothing.

Also, i was talking about it maybe being too loud for me but it's actually very nice. It has a mellow rumble from the inside but not too bad.

Demon Hunter 03-31-2011 02:35 PM

That sounds really good. I'm a fan!

OOLIE 03-31-2011 03:01 PM

Dude that sounds great!! I love the deep tone that I hear and is I am sure much deeper in person. Nice job

Thewall279 03-31-2011 04:04 PM

Thanks guys. What do you think about resonated tips? Would that help lower the volume inside the car? on the highway its fine but accelerating its quite loud. Its almost like having a sub in the back seat haha

25thanniversary 03-31-2011 04:51 PM

That sounds really good I still don't know what exhaust to put on my car

Thewall279 03-31-2011 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 25thanniversary (Post 3036552)
That sounds really good I still don't know what exhaust to put on my car

If you want it to be loud... I highly recommend doing this. For a loud exhaust its still very tuned and not ricey

MIQ 03-31-2011 06:27 PM

Interesting set up. Seems to have paid off :thumbsup:

Birm 03-31-2011 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thewall279 (Post 3035432)
Alright I took a new video just now and uploaded it on youtube for you guys. I don't have much time so i was only able to get a startup and rev... Ill get a few different ones. Here's the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnxG9MVxtcw


^^^
It does hang a little lower but we put a plank of wood accross it to see how low it is and it's not very far. I haven't had a problem with speed bumps today.


^^^
I fixed the heat shield problem i was talking about and yes the muffler is closer with hardly any clearance BUT ZERO rattling... Downshifts, hard acceleration we tried to make it rattle and heard nothing.

Also, i was talking about it maybe being too loud for me but it's actually very nice. It has a mellow rumble from the inside but not too bad.


That sounds really good man, nice job!

Fyreman1211 04-01-2011 05:07 PM

THIS IS A GREAT IDEA.....IM THINKING ABOUT DOING THIS W/ THE FLOWMASTER 10 SERIES MUFFLERS....I WONDER HOW THAT WOULD SOUND....

Thewall279 04-01-2011 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fyreman1211 (Post 3041678)
THIS IS A GREAT IDEA.....IM THINKING ABOUT DOING THIS W/ THE FLOWMASTER 10 SERIES MUFFLERS....I WONDER HOW THAT WOULD SOUND....

If you are gonna do this I highly recommend getting some type of insulation material to wrap around the muffler... I'm gonna try doing this cause its very loud inside the car. I think the 10 series is a good idea. Itll sound good no matter what.

Fyreman1211 04-01-2011 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thewall279 (Post 3041856)
If you are gonna do this I highly recommend getting some type of insulation material to wrap around the muffler... I'm gonna try doing this cause its very loud inside the car. I think the 10 series is a good idea. Itll sound good no matter what.

EVEN THE SUPER 44s MIGHT SOUND PRETTY GOOD....IM ACTUALLY SUPRISED HOW DEEP THE TONE IS W/ THE RESONATORS GONE...EVERYTHING ELSE IVE HEARD HAD A LOST OF RASP...WAY TOO RICEY FOR ME!!!:thumbdown:

Thewall279 04-03-2011 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fyreman1211 (Post 3041925)
EVEN THE SUPER 44s MIGHT SOUND PRETTY GOOD....IM ACTUALLY SUPRISED HOW DEEP THE TONE IS W/ THE RESONATORS GONE...EVERYTHING ELSE IVE HEARD HAD A LOST OF RASP...WAY TOO RICEY FOR ME!!!:thumbdown:

I think 44's will definitely sound good. Its hard to mess up an exhaust when the muffler is that far from the tips... It won't sound raspy at all... I chose 40's cause i heard they get better airflow

bmorecam 04-03-2011 11:52 AM

what is the size of the stock piping? is it 2" or 2.25" I think mostly the problem with those 44's and 40's was the rasp, but yours dont seem to have none. How is it with rasp when you really rev her up there?

Thewall279 04-05-2011 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmorecam (Post 3048199)
what is the size of the stock piping? is it 2" or 2.25" I think mostly the problem with those 44's and 40's was the rasp, but yours dont seem to have none. How is it with rasp when you really rev her up there?

It gets some high pitch but i wouldn't call it rasp... its a very tuned high pitch sound with bass(This is at like 4,500-5,500 rpm). I hate the raspy noise of a V6. Thats why i put the muffler so far back, i wanted to eliminate every possibility for it to be raspy. It's almost exactly in the middle of the cat and the tips. I would have liked it a littler closer to the tips but i didn't have enough room anywhere else.

I forget now but while we were looking under the car we noticed it had 2.25" in some spots and 2.5" in other's. I think its 2.5" until either the cats or the H-pipe than it has 2.25 throughout the rest.

Thewall279 04-05-2011 11:07 PM

Oh the video you guys are watching was also taken the day after we finished installing it. It was driven maybe 5 miles. It sound much deeper now. It's very impressive for a V6. Accelerating normally it will gargle between gears when shifting at 2,500rpm and up. I usually never engine break but now i can't stop cause it sounds so cool.

I took more video's but they are in a parking lot at work. I'm trying to find time to go to an open road and really push it.


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