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Tran 04-18-2011 09:24 AM

R&T: 2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 - First Look
 
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2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 - First Look

Serious supercharged power–124 bhp more than the Camaro SS, and looks to match.

By Shaun Bailey / Photos by Marc Urbano


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We’ve referred to it as the Z28 for almost two years. Chevy, however, is calling its new high-performance Camaro the ZL1, and this 550-bhp pony car will be the most potent Camaro ever. Chief Engineer Al Oppenheiser and Program Engineering Manager Tony Roma have provided the details on the car, which will have stand*ard Magnetic Ride Control damping.


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In 2006, when John Heinricy was head of Performance Vehicle Operations, he made sure the Camaro could someday house a larger differential and bigger rear tires. Slight changes to the floorpan created the space. As such, the ZL1 retains its stock chassis and bodywork. Only the hood and fascias are changed externally. The standard fenders house the 305-width rear tires, while the aluminum hood is modified with a black carbon-fiber vent for clearance over the supercharger and heat extraction.

The ZL1 is designed to shine on road courses and dragstrips, with the Shelby GT500 as its benchmark. Says Oppenheiser: “The ZL1 takes the SS to a new level. Roughly 30 percent of the car has been engineered to go out and dominate…our new leadership has told us we don’t just compete anymore, we win.”


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From pistons to tires, the ZL1 has been built to take abuse. The word “beefy” was in every other sentence describing the drivetrain components. In back, the asymmetric halfshafts and clutch-type limited-slip differential are built to handle repeated drop-clutch launches.

New ZL1-specific forged wheels are shod with custom Goodyears. The wheels and tires are lighter than those on the SS, even though they are larger. There are still 10 months left in the ZL1’s development, so the tire has another round of changes before being finalized. Rather than focus on a square tire setup (same size rubber front and rear) to aid cornering performance, GM says it will do this via tweaks to the rear suspension, anti-roll bar and tire compounds.


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A 6-speed manual from the CTS-V will be standard, with shorter throws than in the current SS. A smaller steering wheel with improved ergonomics will be welcomed by performance drivers, and the smaller shift knob is said to offer a more natural feel. The seats are basically unchanged, but they will have vibrant stitching and suede inserts. Updated gauges will feature a shift light or indicator, plus a standard head-up display.

Other neat ZL1 technology includes electric-assist power steering and exhaust flapper valves. As for launch control, we can expect the ZL1 to have it, and maybe the Performance Traction Management from the Corvette ZR1. This might alter bracket racing forever, with repeated sub-12-second quarter mile passes a real possibility. Look for the ZL1 early next year, priced at about $50,000.



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bdstealth 04-18-2011 09:35 AM

SWEET:thumbup: Now do I trade in my R6P car for a ZL-1?At least I have time to ponder this dilemma.

armysig 04-18-2011 09:57 AM

This car is amazing in person. I loved seeing it at C5Fest II.

edz10ss 04-18-2011 09:58 AM

ZL1 is hot, but please make the inside a little hotter. I love the suede, but the steering wheel doesn't match the car and the guages can be nicer. I don't like the plastic. At least do it in carbon fiber. One more thing, why isn't the hp the same as the Cadillac ctsv. ZL1 should be the same or a little more. PLEASE

Texas2SS 04-18-2011 10:00 AM

:drool:
I love it more and more eveytime I see it.

Scarrzz 04-18-2011 10:14 AM

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Tax refund money just went into the down payment pile.

I do hope they're right about the sub 12 numbers from the factory with performance traction management. I'm not too proud to turn it on if it saves significant time, which it would. Not to mention, without it, those tires would get expensive pretty often.

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PYROLYSIS 04-18-2011 10:26 AM

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Does anybody else think the plastic flap to the far right of the traction control buttons might be some kind of hidden switch? It looks like if you press it down it will pop up like its on a spring. It would be cool if it did. Maybe a switch for the exhaust?

bucky1399 04-18-2011 10:31 AM

That's the cigarette plug.

mikaltima 04-18-2011 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bucky1399 (Post 3108598)
That's the cigarette plug.

:laugh:

Darkone 04-18-2011 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS (Post 3108577)
Does anybody else think the plastic flap to the far right of the traction control buttons might be some kind of hidden switch? It looks like if you press it down it will pop up like its on a spring. It would be cool if it did. Maybe a switch for the exhaust?

lol lets just say pushing your finger in there would not be a pleasant experience

PYROLYSIS 04-18-2011 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Darkone (Post 3108690)
lol lets just say pushing your finger in there would not be a pleasant experience

:facepalm: Thanks fellas. Ruin a mans dream why don't ya. :laugh:

Blackdevil77 04-18-2011 11:12 AM

I could of sworn I read this before a while back in my thousands of google searches for the ZL1. I'm waiting for more info. I'll be going to the javits center car show in NYC this saturday. I'm gonna be very persistant in my questioning ;)

Joebot8484 04-18-2011 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackdevil77 (Post 3108770)
I could of sworn I read this before a while back in my thousands of google searches for the ZL1. I'm waiting for more info. I'll be going to the javits center car show in NYC this saturday. I'm gonna be very persistant in my questioning ;)

I will also be their Saturday! I can't wait! The last time I was there was in 2007 when the orange concept was there, they let me up on stage!

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illiceman 04-18-2011 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tran (Post 3108326)
2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 - First Look

Serious supercharged power–124 bhp more than the Camaro SS, and looks to match.

By Shaun Bailey / Photos by Marc Urbano

i AM LOOKING FOR MPG AND OFCOURSE 0-60 AND 1/4 MILE RUNS.i FIG. IT WILL BE FASTER THAN Z06 ANDE SLOWER THAN THE ZR1.wEL SEE.:readthethread::):happyanim:

91Z28350 04-18-2011 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by illiceman (Post 3109373)
i AM LOOKING FOR MPG AND OFCOURSE 0-60 AND 1/4 MILE RUNS.i FIG. IT WILL BE FASTER THAN Z06 ANDE SLOWER THAN THE ZR1.wEL SEE.:readthethread::):happyanim:



LOL Umm, while I don't know the performance figures anymore than you do, I would be happy to put some money on the ZL1 NOT being faster than a C6 Z06, expecially one with launch control.

XLethal 360 04-18-2011 02:06 PM

Of course the only car that was in the rope barracade at C5FII, otherwise some members might have tried it on for size..... very hot car though!!

bobby35ny 04-18-2011 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 91Z28350 (Post 3109382)
LOL Umm, while I don't know the performance figures anymore than you do, I would be happy to put some money on the ZL1 NOT being faster than a C6 Z06, expecially one with launch control.

I really think this car is being changed as we speak. With the GT500 swinging to 620hp for 2012, the present LSA won't have a chance. If you watch that 3 way race between the GTR-Z06-GT500. The Vette just beat the GT500 by a tiny amount, and thats the GT500 at 550hp, not the 2012 at 620hp. I SO want to buy this car but I will have to wait for the real numbers.

-Bobby

Blackdevil77 04-18-2011 02:37 PM

I highly doubt it will beat a C6 Z06. Maybe the base C6 and MAYBE the grand sport, but the Z06 has run 10's upwards of 128 mph with nothing but tires, and a really good driver.

sixty9fordkiller 04-18-2011 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS (Post 3108577)
Does anybody else think the plastic flap to the far right of the traction control buttons might be some kind of hidden switch? It looks like if you press it down it will pop up like its on a spring. It would be cool if it did. Maybe a switch for the exhaust?

thats an electrical/accessory 12V plug. Just flip it open and plug in!

Blue Menace 04-18-2011 03:09 PM

I saw this article. For anyone with the newest Camaro Now: is there any extra/new info in there not covered in other mags?

sixty9fordkiller 04-18-2011 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Menace (Post 3109658)
I saw this article. For anyone with the newest Camaro Now: is there any extra/new info in there not covered in other mags?

Well, the car hasnt been produced yet so at this point, EVERYTHING you read in magazines (performance-wise) is pure speculation. The way I see it, this car will likely have a few more than 550HP. I would guess the final numbers to be somewhere in the 560s but not more than 575ish.

alexcfwu 04-18-2011 03:22 PM

Love this car from the start :wub:. Can we merge the StingRay high tech interior to this one, and keep it at low 50 please?

Otherwise, it is hot, she's got hips to match, and the stamina/aggresive humpf to match... all in one tight package.

Does anyone know how the steering wheel grip is like when you drive a lot during hot day? DC/VA can get a little bit cold in the winter and slightly hot in the summer.

boltmark 04-18-2011 03:51 PM

awesome

PYROLYSIS 04-18-2011 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sixty9fordkiller (Post 3109652)
thats an electrical/accessory 12V plug. Just flip it open and plug in!

Yeah thanks. That's like the one part of the interior I haven't noticed after looking at thousands of these pictures for the last few years. I probably would have noticed it if I had ever sat in a fifth gen but I refuse to until I get my own. If I did it would make this long wait even worse.

OVERPAR73 04-18-2011 04:04 PM

I want to see the ZL1 convertible!!


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