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Tran 05-16-2011 02:36 PM

2012 Camaro V6 Engine's New Cylinder Head Design Adds Power, Saves Fuel
 
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Head Games: 2012 Chevy Camaro Adds Power, Saves Fuel

New cylinder head design combines key parts into single aluminum casting

2011-05-16

PONTIAC, Mich. – In auto production, more power, better fuel economy and fewer emissions rarely appear together. But the 2012 Camaro 3.6L direct injection V6 engine achieves all three by combining the exhaust manifold with the cylinder head into a single aluminum casting.

Each integrated exhaust manifold cylinder head – a V6 has two -- replaces a cast iron exhaust manifold, six bolts, a gasket and a heat shield and three bolts. By eliminating this joint, the potential for a gasket failure is eliminated. And the change reduces engine weight by 13 lbs. or 6 kg per engine. Reducing mass helps improve fuel economy and the 2012 Camaro 2LS model is EPA estimated at 30 mpg highway.

“Reducing engine mass of this magnitude doesn’t happen often,” said Ameer Haider, GM assistant chief engineer for V6 engines. “Engineering usually looks for reduction in terms of grams not pounds. It’s just like removing a set of golf clubs from your car when you don’t need them – ultimately it saves fuel. When combined with other mass reductions, the customer will see better fuel economy over time with better performance.”

Extensive simulation and bench testing was performed to perfect cylinder-head airflow. Intake airflow is improved 7 percent with the use of larger intake valves (38.3 mm v. 36.9 mm), which are primarily responsible for an increase of 11 horsepower. Exhaust flow is 10 percent better than the previous V6.

Lower emissions, narrower engine size and noise reduction round out the list of benefits for the new head design. With the catalytic converter closer to the engine exhaust point, the emissions reduction process begins sooner, resulting in lower emissions. The new cylinder heads decrease the overall width of the engine by 4.6 inches (117 mm) for significantly more packaging space in the engine bay making underhood work easier. Due to less surface area, the new design contributes to a 1 decibel reduction in engine noise at idle.

“The new, patented design benefits the customer in all the key areas without any tradeoffs, said Haider. “Emissions, performance, fuel economy, and noise all improve with the integrated exhaust manifold.”



Tom Sutter, Chief Engineer for GM V6 engines, describes the unique cylinder head design change and the integrated exhaust manifold, all resulting in fuel savings and improved performance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2Gd2IzJaFM




The new integrated exhaust manifold cylinder head on the right is compared to the old on the left. The photo shows the reduced complexity of the design by eliminating the need for a separate exhaust manifold, heat shield, gasket and associated fasteners.


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dmginc 05-16-2011 02:58 PM

sucks for anyone that wanted to put headers on their 2012 v6...but is a very interesting design, cant wait to see how it works in the real world.

spoone123 05-16-2011 03:25 PM

I want that program :D

Sterling 05-16-2011 03:28 PM

These heads are screaming for a turbo to be mounted right there...

DarkObsession 05-16-2011 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dmginc (Post 3226564)
sucks for anyone that wanted to put headers on their 2012 v6...but is a very interesting design, cant wait to see how it works in the real world.

This is exactly what I was thinking... anyone who wants to seriously mod their V6 better hope that the integrated exhaust manifolds are "maxed out" from the factory because otherwise... you'll just have to dive into the heads immediately.

Speaking of heads, if anyone makes aftermarket heads for those, they are going to cost a small fortune.

JBuzzy11 05-16-2011 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingnotes (Post 3226707)
These heads are screaming for a turbo to be mounted right there...

unreal how far the V6 has come.. The V8's always had the power but I never thought we would see the V6 at this point, im guessing within 10 years we may see around 375hp from the V6!!!

Blade 05-16-2011 03:52 PM

Hmm..........so it comes with 11 more horses off the bat.......combine that with Trifecta's new performance tune, a 2012 V6 can make 336 HP after a 300-400 dollar expense. She will be quite but the power will come much cheaper than what I paid for.

GearBangr 05-16-2011 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Edge.128 (Post 3226774)
WRONG. if anything we are demanding more and more parts they just aren't coming to the market. not sure why. but we are slowly starting to see that change. but these new heads may make modding much tougher, especially for those that want to add headers.

Its hard to say at this point really. Theyr trying to get more power and efficiency out of it, so I doubt they would purposely create a restriction. Instead of having 3 small ports you get one big one. It may save you in the end. Perhaps it just takes that step put of the modding process. Or you just have to buy one pipe "header" instead of the 3-1 tube header. It could go either way.
Also as stated previously, it sure looks tempting to attach a turbo to that port.:w00t:

KILLER74Z28 05-16-2011 04:01 PM

It’s great for emissions and MPG but I’m thinking this is going to limit anything the Aftermarket Exhaust companies can do for the V6’ers “BIG TIME”. And right now it's good to be a V6'er when it comes to moding. With this new head design , I would like to see total HP gain with a full aftermarket exhaust set up. Right now most full set-ups with long tubes are getting people 30+ HP. :respekt:

DGthe3 05-16-2011 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkObsession (Post 3226735)
This is exactly what I was thinking... anyone who wants to seriously mod their V6 better hope that the integrated exhaust manifolds are "maxed out" from the factory because otherwise... you'll just have to dive into the heads immediately.

Speaking of heads, if anyone makes aftermarket heads for those, they are going to cost a small fortune.

They won't be maxed out on a car that sells for under $25,000. They did it to save weight and save cost, not improve performance.

rtcat600man 05-16-2011 04:09 PM

No headers with this set-up.............:facepalm:

2010SLVRBULIT 05-16-2011 04:10 PM

at least you'll save $ on NOT buying AM headers:sm0:,but I think it will limit power gain options..what's next, GM designed OEM CAI?:rolleyes:

JKBUMBLEBEE 05-16-2011 04:11 PM

-___________________________________- they really couldn't of put these in the 2011? assholes.

squat 05-16-2011 04:17 PM

323 HP from the factory sounds like a nice amount.

bmorecam 05-16-2011 04:17 PM

There will always be, and peoples will always find another way to make more power regardless of not being able to put an actual header. The biggest restriction for us current LLT is tuning.
2012 LFX will not be short in this department with the new delphi ECU and E85 capability. Plus our only current tuner and other companies are already working on a tune for this new LFX.
There will be alot of possibility with this new e85 fuel flex LFX. Especially when someone throw boost to it.

squat 05-16-2011 04:31 PM

Question:

This article implies that the car will get 30MPG. I thought that the 2LS got 30MPG because of the different axle ratio, not a different engine. If that's the case, then wouldn't this new design get even better MPG?

DGthe3 05-16-2011 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by squat (Post 3226997)
Question:

This article implies that the car will get 30MPG. I thought that the 2LS got 30MPG because of the different axle ratio, not a different engine. If that's the case, then wouldn't this new design get even better MPG?

It might, but it could also be that if the 2011 2LS technically were rated at (I'm just making these numbers up) 29.7 mpg and this gets 30.3, they would both be rounded to 30 mpg even though the new engine is a bit more efficient.

NavyDood 05-16-2011 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingnotes (Post 3226707)
These heads are screaming for a turbo to be mounted right there...

Most definitely.

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Originally Posted by JBuzzy11 (Post 3226765)
unreal how far the V6 has come.. The V8's always had the power but I never thought we would see the V6 at this point, im guessing within 10 years we may see around 375hp from the V6!!!

Have you not seen the all aluminum Ford Ecoboost 3.5L Twin-Turbo V6? 365hp/420tq. A F150 4x2 in perfect conditions with the ecoboost can easily flirt with 30mpg. Makes ya wonder what that could do in the Camaro.

rikelme90 05-16-2011 04:45 PM

im pretty sure the after market folks will find a way to get more power out of this. it''ll just take time.

DarkObsession 05-16-2011 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3 (Post 3226906)
They won't be maxed out on a car that sells for under $25,000. They did it to save weight and save cost, not improve performance.

I never implied that they would be. I just said that V6 people better hope that it is. I know it obviously won't be.

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Originally Posted by squat (Post 3226938)
323 HP from the factory sounds like a nice amount.

It would be if the car didn't weigh 3700+ lbs (which is what the current V6 weighs, give or take). 323 hauling that much weight around is not going to be a quick car :(

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Originally Posted by bmorecam (Post 3226940)
There will always be, and peoples will always find another way to make more power regardless of not being able to put an actual header. The biggest restriction for us current LLT is tuning.
2012 LFX will not be short in this department with the new delphi ECU and E85 capability. Plus our only current tuner and other companies are already working on a tune for this new LFX.
There will be alot of possibility with this new e85 fuel flex LFX. Especially when someone throw boost to it.

Yeah, there will be A LOT of boost potential for people who run e85. Should be interesting to see what people end up with when they go FI on the new FlexFuel V6. If the internals are sturdy enough, you should be able to run a lot of boost on that engine without knocking :)

htron50 05-16-2011 05:34 PM

How about increased HEAT RETAINED IN HEAD OR WARPING?
 
I am sure they've tested and tested and tested.......... But I can't help but feel that the head is being asked to do more within a smaller space resulting in quicker fatique and thus........... UH OH!!

Thorlius 05-16-2011 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NavyDood (Post 3227033)
Most definitely.



Have you not seen the all aluminum Ford Ecoboost 3.5L V6? 365hp/420tq. A F150 4x2 in perfect conditions with the ecoboost can easily flirt with 30mpg. Makes ya wonder what that could do in the Camaro.

V6 EcoBoost = twin-turbos.

Twin-turbos on the Camaro V6 - if it could handle it without needing a reworking - should be able to put out better numbers than the LS3. But it would cost considerably more to produce, too.

Russo 05-16-2011 06:14 PM

welcome to 2003... Honda has done this with great success... now if only Honda can make a dohc DI v6 like GM/Ford/Chrysler..

NavyDood 05-16-2011 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Thorlius (Post 3227366)
V6 EcoBoost = twin-turbos.

Twin-turbos on the Camaro V6 - if it could handle it without needing a reworking - should be able to put out better numbers than the LS3. But it would cost considerably more to produce, too.

Oops, forgot to say Twins. Updated my orig post.

brAnd7onX 05-16-2011 06:57 PM

Makes me even more excited to get a 2012 along with the power-passenger seat :bow:


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