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speedster 03-07-2009 12:37 PM

Nelson Twin Turbo LS3 Engines for Camaro
 
For anyone that is interested - Nelson Racing Engines just posted what I feel is a great deal for a complete drop-in Twin Turbo LS3 engine. It would definitely make the new Camaro scream. After seeing all the post of power adders I figured to post this for anyone looking for a big step up in power. I love power adders, but am always afraid of the bottom end coming unglued. This is a completely new engine build with the best parts.

I am not affiliated with Tom Nelson, but have one of his engines in my Firebird and I can't say enough about the quality and support I received. His stuff is absolutely top notch. So, if you a want some insane streetable power for your new Camaro you might want to take a look.
http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=19531

His phone number is 818-998-5593, but be forewarned you will probably have to call a bunch of times before he gets back to you. I used to always try to call and he was never in his office, always out in their shop or on the dyno...

zebra 03-07-2009 01:02 PM

:drool:

1320junkie 03-07-2009 01:11 PM

nice

CamaroSpike23 03-07-2009 01:44 PM

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cool, tho I wonder why they chose to mount the wastegates past a 90* angle from the downpipe. maybe its just for room clearance and whatnot, but I would change that before putting it into my car. dunno, but ive always tried to keep it set up like this.

CamaroSpike23 03-07-2009 02:06 PM

another thing I just noticed, they are using a dual blade throttle body. im suprised they didnt go with a monoblade. in fact, the one they are using looks like a 58mm LT1 throttle body. maybe im just nitpicking, but I woulda gone with something like this instead. http://www.evoperform.com/shop/images/GT5002.jpg

zebra 03-07-2009 02:24 PM

maybe spike should go teach mr nelson a thing or two! :laugh:

CamaroSpike23 03-07-2009 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by zebra (Post 325954)
maybe spike should go teach mr nelson a thing or two! :laugh:


JMO on the matter. cus if im going to spend 20k on a TT motor, there would be some changes to it.

speedster 03-07-2009 04:43 PM

Spike -

Those are good observations and great ideas. I do know that the wastegates are done that way for clearance. When I had Tom do a motor for me before, I brought up some "new" ideas and he incorporated many of them in the build. He gave me good feedback on the ones that weren't such a hot idea.

If you don't mind, I would like to bring the throttle body one up.

Looks like you've been down this path before. :)
Thanks.

CamaroSpike23 03-07-2009 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by speedster (Post 326169)
Spike -

Those are good observations and great ideas. I do know that the wastegates are done that way for clearance. When I had Tom do a motor for me before, I brought up some "new" ideas and he incorporated many of them in the build. He gave me good feedback on the ones that weren't such a hot idea.

If you don't mind, I would like to bring the throttle body one up.

Looks like you've been down this path before. :)
Thanks.

by all means pass the info along.

the one thing i can think of as far as the t/b goes is that possibly the dual blade setup allows for better air mixing from each turbo into the intake, but I dont have any airflow data that would substantiate either way, but one would imagine that running a monoblade setup over a dual, split blade setup would prove to be less restrictive.

as for the waste gate routing, the only other option i can think of off hand is to run it in a "Y" fashion right where the downpipe bends down to the turbo. then you could run a shorter oil line (whoopity do...lol), and run the waste gate pretty much straight forward and somewhat parallel to the turbo itself with overall shorter length of tubing for the wastegate as well..

and while im sure this setup is pushing 800hp... ya never know... could be pushing 817hp with a few minor changes...:headbang:

Nexus6 03-07-2009 05:04 PM

Yeah it kind of looks like a stealth ram setup for an L98

CamaroSpike23 03-07-2009 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Nexus6 (Post 326204)
Yeah it kind of looks like a stealth ram setup for an L98

arent sheet metal intakes beautiful?

Ject 03-07-2009 05:16 PM

wow... $20k price tag...

CamaroSpike23 03-07-2009 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ject (Post 326228)
wow... $20k price tag...

on a group (3 or more) purchase.

speedster 03-07-2009 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23 (Post 326201)
by all means pass the info along.

the one thing i can think of as far as the t/b goes is that possibly the dual blade setup allows for better air mixing from each turbo into the intake, but I dont have any airflow data that would substantiate either way, but one would imagine that running a monoblade setup over a dual, split blade setup would prove to be less restrictive.

as for the waste gate routing, the only other option i can think of off hand is to run it in a "Y" fashion right where the downpipe bends down to the turbo. then you could run a shorter oil line (whoopity do...lol), and run the waste gate pretty much straight forward and somewhat parallel to the turbo itself with overall shorter length of tubing for the wastegate as well..

and while im sure this setup is pushing 800hp... ya never know... could be pushing 817hp with a few minor changes...:headbang:

Thanks spike. Methods and ideas for increased performance from people such as yourself is why these message boards are so great.

I'll be sure to bring it up.

Thank You Again.

CamaroSpike23 03-07-2009 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by speedster (Post 326648)
Thanks spike. Methods and ideas for increased performance from people such as yourself is why these message boards are so great.

I'll be sure to bring it up.

Thank You Again.

yeah, no prob. and if he can throw some insight as to why he set it up that way (cus who knows, it might be better) let me know.

Mr Twisty 03-07-2009 10:03 PM

With all the custom fabricating and welds, looks like it belongs in an art gallery :w00t:

Muscle Master 03-07-2009 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23 (Post 325891)
cool, tho I wonder why they chose to mount the wastegates past a 90* angle from the downpipe. maybe its just for room clearance and whatnot, but I would change that before putting it into my car. dunno, but ive always tried to keep it set up like this.

Was a little confused, but now I understand, good lookin out, because that did sounded weird to me to a wastegate past 90*

I swear you are the Shit Spike :bow:

CamaroSpike23 03-08-2009 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Muscle Master (Post 326719)
I swear you are the Shit Spike :bow:

actually, I have psychological problem where I have to find flaws with everything in life. im just more vocal about it when it comes to engines.

1320junkie 03-08-2009 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23 (Post 327132)
actually, I have (insert the letter a here) psychological problem where I have to find flaws with everything in life. im just more vocal about it when it comes to engines.

You forgot the letter "a" and it's "I'm" not "im".....lmao....just kidding..:sm0::sm0:

Andro 03-08-2009 10:45 AM

OMG! If only I had 20K for a twin turbo set-up :drool:

CamaroSpike23 03-08-2009 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 1320junkie (Post 327158)
You forgot the letter "a" and it's "I'm" not "im".....lmao....just kidding..:sm0::sm0:

I also purposefully mistype so that I can find others with the same problem....:laughabove:

1320junkie 03-08-2009 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23 (Post 327185)
I also purposefully mistype so that I can find others with the same problem....:laughabove:

Damn foiled by Spike again

zebra 03-08-2009 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 1320junkie (Post 327191)
Damn foiled by Spike again

don't worry... it happens to everybody all the time!

CamaroSpike23 03-13-2009 11:46 AM

bump... any updates?

speedster 03-13-2009 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23 (Post 335384)
bump... any updates?

Sent your suggestions to Tom Nelson. :)


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