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Camaro007 03-21-2009 11:57 PM

Wondering about the color black and detailing. Need Help
 
I never had a black car due to the upkeep and I have always seen black cars with those spider cracks in the paint. The Camaro I will be getting is my everyday car. How do I keep the paint from the swirl marks and spider cracks? I have heard a lot about Zino. Will this help or will it eventually happen to the black paint? What do I need to do and with what produce. Any help here would be great.

cyberbro 03-22-2009 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Camaro007 (Post 354734)
I never had a black car due to the upkeep and I have always seen black cars with those spider cracks in the paint. The Camaro I will be getting is my everyday car. How do I keep the paint from the swirl marks and spider cracks? I have heard a lot about Zino. Will this help or will it eventually happen to the black paint? What do I need to do and with what produce. Any help here would be great.

That is the down side to a black car, it will be fine for the 1st 4 or 5 years but then you will start to see that stuff. It will depend on your up keep and how you will take car of the car but it will happen eventual. If it will really bother you, think about an other color. I have found from owning many car that the lighter the color the less swirls you will see. That is one of the reasons silver is my fav, you never see any of that.

Nexus6 03-22-2009 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Camaro007 (Post 354734)
I never had a black car due to the upkeep and I have always seen black cars with those spider cracks in the paint. The Camaro I will be getting is my everyday car. How do I keep the paint from the swirl marks and spider cracks? I have heard a lot about Zino. Will this help or will it eventually happen to the black paint? What do I need to do and with what produce. Any help here would be great.

Its takes hard work to keep it looking good ,Here is a good video to watch for how to wash a car and not put swirl marks into it.ANYTHING you can do to reduce the chance of putting swhirls in your paint is a good thing.


http://dftowel.com/video.html


And most people on this section knows im a big supporter of Zaino.I've tried tons of waxes and polishes over the years and for ME, its the best ive ever used.

justmeron 03-22-2009 01:10 AM

I would have to agree with ya cyber. I am not a big fan of the light colors. But I did have a white car once and it seemed to be the easiest car of all to keep looking good on the outside.
Hey Nexus I just orderd some Zaino and have it waiting on my Camaro. I was very impressed with the recomendations here and testimonials and pix on their site. Can't wait to try it out.

Fifth Camaro 03-22-2009 01:35 AM

I have had 3 black cars over the past 18 years. There is no doubt, when it looks good, it is the best looking color. But man, it is a pain to keep looking good. Now in my mid-40's, I dont want to spend the time taking care of paint like this ever again. This is why I chose SIM. I have a silverstone Impala, very close to the same color, and it is very easy to keep clean. Keeping black awesome is very, very hard, especially for a daily driver. I always used the Mequires packages, using #7 for swirl remover, then #26 wax. When applying the polish or wax, you can apply in a circular motion, but when removing, go in straight lines, never stopping in the middle of a panel, don't try and get all the wax off in 1 or 2 passes, use many very delicate passes, going from start of 1 panel to the end of the panel in straight lines. This will help tremendously with the web effect.

justmeron 03-22-2009 01:38 AM

what products do you recomend for interior care?

FirstLSK 03-22-2009 02:07 AM

If you are skilled at using power tools, you can learn how to use this combo. It can take some of the worst swirl marked black and return it to a deep, clean finish.

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/fo...taryBuffer.jpg

http://www.jamestowndistributors.com...shing/6588.jpg

http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.c...1_2041_7711144


http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/images/ZKIT-2.jpg

Camaro007 03-22-2009 10:03 AM

Thanks guys for the information. I will be getting the Zino no matter what color I get. My order will be pulled in 4/2 and will need to decide if I still want the CGM I ordered or choose another color if the constraints aren't lifted for CGM. I don't know if I can wait another month for the CGM or longer. The CGM looks good on the Vette, but without the real picture of the camaro in CGM I'm unsure what color to choose.

justmeron 03-22-2009 12:58 PM

What about interior and leather care?

rgrizzard 03-27-2009 12:50 PM

You don't need an orbital buffer for a new car. In fact if you are using Zaino with any regularity you should never need any orbital.

SemperFi 03-27-2009 01:19 PM

Man, idk what seems to be the huge problem. I have an 01 mazda 626, not fancy in any way, that still looks great in its factory black paint job. no cracks, or anything. Just put it through the car wash about twice a month... looks new.

Nexus6 03-27-2009 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rgrizzard (Post 366665)
You don't need an orbital buffer for a new car. In fact if you are using Zaino with any regularity you should never need any orbital.

QFT

Nexus6 03-27-2009 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SemperFi (Post 366716)
Man, idk what seems to be the huge problem. I have an 01 mazda 626, not fancy in any way, that still looks great in its factory black paint job. no cracks, or anything. Just put it through the car wash about twice a month... looks new.

yeah but if you sat one next to the same year and same model and same color that used Zaino from the get go,you would notice the difference.

Xmicro_SS 03-27-2009 01:45 PM

The key to keeping a car from getting swirl marks............DON"T OVER WASH IT!!!! If the car is garaged and is not an everyday car, this is a possibility. If it is an everyday car that is not a reality. I have my Sky Redline for just over 2 years, It is garage kept and covered. I have 11,000 Miles and it has been washed only 6 times!! I generally clean off dust with a super soft Microfibre and a good detail spray. It has only seen rain twice and NEVER seen salt.

I love when people say "I wash my car once a week, it should look great" Not true. More Rubbing, more microscopic scratches....period!

Things that people do not realize that effect their finish:

- Being left out in the Sun (Especially Black) Breaks down the clearcoat over time
- Over Washing
- Using a crappy Microfibre cloth (If it grabs your skin, it is NO GOOD FOR YOUR CAR)
- Not properly rinsing the car before you drop a soapy towel or mit on it!
- Do you have hard water coming out of your spigot??? Lots of minerals does a job on the paint
- Car washes recycle the water ---WORST THING EVER
- Not using proper Product. You DO NOT want a product with polish in it to use EVERY TIME you do your car! Polishes should only be done a couple times a year
- Old Paste wax crystalizes and can cause micro scratches, Buy new every year, or stay with liquid.

I personally use Adam's Products. You cannot beat their cloths for scratch prevention. The VRT works amazing on interior plastics! :cool:

If you are anal stay away from black or ANY dark color for that matter.

JBsC6 03-27-2009 10:34 PM

Forget black..LOL

Its a bitch ..

Get red and call it a day..(had two red vettes and one black one)

Silver or white are cool everyday driver colors too..but black??????????

I don't mind having a dirty car so blacks cool..but if you want a spotless car for everyday..

This colors insane..

HTH (next ones going be red again LOL)

NAHURRY 03-28-2009 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Xmicro_SS (Post 366764)
The key to keeping a car from getting swirl marks............DON"T OVER WASH IT!!!! If the car is garaged and is not an everyday car, this is a possibility. If it is an everyday car that is not a reality. I have my Sky Redline for just over 2 years, It is garage kept and covered. I have 11,000 Miles and it has been washed only 6 times!! I generally clean off dust with a super soft Microfibre and a good detail spray. It has only seen rain twice and NEVER seen salt.

I love when people say "I wash my car once a week, it should look great" Not true. More Rubbing, more microscopic scratches....period!

Things that people do not realize that effect their finish:

- Being left out in the Sun (Especially Black) Breaks down the clearcoat over time
- Over Washing

- Using a crappy Microfibre cloth (If it grabs your skin, it is NO GOOD FOR YOUR CAR)
- Not properly rinsing the car before you drop a soapy towel or mit on it!
- Do you have hard water coming out of your spigot??? Lots of minerals does a job on the paint
- Car washes recycle the water ---WORST THING EVER
- Not using proper Product. You DO NOT want a product with polish in it to use EVERY TIME you do your car! Polishes should only be done a couple times a year
- Old Paste wax crystalizes and can cause micro scratches, Buy new every year, or stay with liquid.



I personally use Adam's Products. You cannot beat their cloths for scratch prevention. The VRT works amazing on interior plastics! :cool:

If you are anal stay away from black or ANY dark color for that matter.


makes perfect sence, so what do you use to wash with? microfiber rag,
mitt, or a 100% cotton towel, sponge, etc?

Nexus6 03-28-2009 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by in a hurry (Post 368349)
makes perfect sence, so what do you use to wash with? microfiber rag,
mitt, or a 100% cotton towel, sponge, etc?



i use this http://www.autogeek.net/sheepwas.html

or this http://www.autogeek.net/natseaspon.html

sometimes i use both

NAHURRY 03-28-2009 12:22 PM

So thats what I seen in your cabinet (sea sponge) both sound like great
products. Thanks


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