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1982camaro 03-25-2009 12:46 AM

G8 GXP FASTER THAN CAMARO SS?
 
i have noticed that the pontiac g8 has a better 0-60 than the camaro. Best g8 time i've seen is 4.5 and 4.6 for the Camaro, but they are tied in the quarter at 13 flat.


i'm a bit dissapointed because i thought the higher ponies and lighter weight in the camaro would overcome the better gearing in the g8. Anyone know if chevy will offer equal or better gearing in the camaro?

Jamestwilliams 03-25-2009 12:49 AM

There will eventually be 3.73 rear end available just not yet. That will make the difference. Were the Camaro will beat the G8 as is right now is handling.

TheClassicCarKid 03-25-2009 12:49 AM

3:73 gears will be available next year. But wait a few months and you'll see people breaking into 12's, don't worry.

Jamestwilliams 03-25-2009 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TheClassicCarKid (Post 361481)
3:73 gears will be available next year. But wait a few months and you'll see people breaking into 12's, don't worry.

True but that goes for both cars.

z06reznor 03-25-2009 01:10 AM

GXP already has a 3.70 rear end. The Camaro, with revised gearing will be faster, and it's much cheaper. I do like both cars though, the GXP as part of the GM family is still a great car, but Camaro will prove to be faster in real world and the track. :chevy:

Rock36 03-25-2009 02:44 AM

I don't have any stats in front of me, but doesn't the Camaro have a significantly higher trap speed through the quarter?

I'm pretty sure the G8 GXP isn't trapping 111-112 mph, and believe it or not a couple of mph difference in trap speed is significant.

Crowley 03-25-2009 08:09 AM

From some of G8 GXP dynos out there .. I think that engine is underrated anyways .. I believe it is making as much power as the LS3 Camaro ..

Crowley

Silver Streak 03-25-2009 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 1982camaro (Post 361478)
i have noticed that the pontiac g8 has a better 0-60 than the camaro. Best g8 time i've seen is 4.5 and 4.6 for the Camaro, but they are tied in the quarter at 13 flat.


i'm a bit dissapointed because i thought the higher ponies and lighter weight in the camaro would overcome the better gearing in the g8. Anyone know if chevy will offer equal or better gearing in the camaro?

Dissappointed? Wow. Those 0-60's you quoted, were they from the very 1st reviews of the GXP or later reviews, or actual times outside of the reiviews? I would venture to say that the Camaros numbers will improve. That being said, I think the Camaros numbers are just fine. IMVHO

ArcAngel 03-25-2009 08:35 AM

I think he meant he's disappointed that comparably to the G8 GXP he's disappointed not in general! The g8 GXP is one badass car if you need the roominess and want a camaro go for it!!

SS 376 03-25-2009 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ArcAngel (Post 361773)
I think he meant he's disappointed that comparably to the G8 GXP he's disappointed not in general! The g8 GXP is one badass car if you need the roominess and want a camaro go for it!!

:word: If I had kids, I'd be in a G8GXP in a heartbeat.

ArcAngel 03-25-2009 08:44 AM

I don't have kids and the temptation has been there, especially with the 3000 cash back and special financing it tempts you every time you see it

NightmareSS 03-25-2009 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamestwilliams (Post 361480)
There will eventually be 3.73 rear end available just not yet. That will make the difference. Were the Camaro will beat the G8 as is right now is handling.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheClassicCarKid (Post 361481)
3:73 gears will be available next year. But wait a few months and you'll see people breaking into 12's, don't worry.

Sometimes i feel that the 2011 Camaro is gonna be alot better then the 2010... :cry:

ArcAngel 03-25-2009 09:04 AM

yea I have that feeling too thank God I'm waiting hehehehehe

davidj 03-25-2009 09:09 AM

The times your seeing for the Camaro were done in 34 degree weather. Not good for traction. The times will get better.

cam2fst4u 03-25-2009 09:13 AM

i have a hard time believing that the g8 will be faster than the camaro or even close to it. it would be like if they made the camaro better than the vette , not going to happen

carfansince73 03-25-2009 09:15 AM

The G8 GXP only gets 20mpg highway and is rewarded with a GG tax for it. Yeah, there's a rebate, but who is to say the Camaro won't get a rebate in a year. I'll take the Camaro with its 24 or 25mpg with almost exact performance. As you add power whether through bolt on or forced inductions, those 3.73 gears might give you trouble off the line in the form of tire smoke. ;)


I should mention that I really like the GXP, just too much money and I wanted better gas mileage.

radz28 03-25-2009 09:19 AM

IMO, that GXP is friggin' cool! If there were no Camaro, that'd the the first car in line for me to get (well, a CTS-V; but that's too much $$$). I'm sure Camaro times will be dropping a tenth or two when the rags' start reviewing in weather with a little better traction because although the cold is good for power, it ain't good for hookin'. I think the power and weight differences aren't going to mean too much in terms of raw speed, but the handling is where the spread is going to be a little greater.

Either way, Camaro is based on the same chassis, has similar engine/drivetrains, and weight and harbor no disappointment at all. They're great improvements on top of the older generation cars, IMVHO.

Zabo 03-25-2009 09:39 AM

What I'm wondering is if I can take it up to the shop and "under warranty" swap the gearing on the rear end in '11 for a factory 3.73. It should just be a matter of pulling one transfer case and plugging the new one in.

I think GM should try something like this too. Do a "Factory recall" on the 3:42s they have now as a "production error" and make all the '10s eat some '11 Mustangs like their younger Camaro brethren will be doing.

radz28 03-25-2009 12:33 PM

It's my opinion that won't be possible... They'd replace a warranty part with the exact same replacement, unless it was discontinued. Broken 3.42s equal replacement 3.42s. That would be cool though :D

Embalmer 03-25-2009 01:01 PM

Car and Driver reported 0-60 in 4.7 sec for the G8 GXP.

That's the exact same as reported for the Camaro in many reviews.

Same exact engine - same exact platform - the numbers are almost exactly the same.

(I realize weight is diff but so is gearing)...

To me it's a wash!!

Oh and the Camaro LOOKS about a BILLION times better than any G8 ever could...

Embalmer 03-25-2009 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by carfansince73 (Post 361840)
The G8 GXP only gets 20mpg highway and is rewarded with a GG tax for it. Yeah, there's a rebate, but who is to say the Camaro won't get a rebate in a year. I'll take the Camaro with its 24 or 25mpg with almost exact performance.

Exactly. And did I mention the Camaro looks about a billion times better? :)

Sorry I honestly just don't like the G8... I don't like how it looks.. :thumbdown:

And don't forget the GXP is MORE money than the Camaro....although slightly more.

1982camaro 03-25-2009 02:41 PM

i'm not dissapointed with the camaro's numbers at all, i'm just a little bothered that the GXP guys are faster. but it's still a drivers race and i'm sure a few bolt ons can fix this.



i'm happy that i'm waiting until 2011. we not only get more color options, ABL, and better pricing, but we might get a faster SS. :D

Vash 03-25-2009 02:43 PM

I don't care if it was a purple pig that tapdances. G8 is a luxury 4 door sedan.

If you want a 4 Door Sedan be my guest..

Otherwise Enjoy Camaro.. have a coke and a smile...

THE EVIL TW1N 03-25-2009 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Vash (Post 362555)
I don't care if it was a purple pig that tapdances. G8 is a luxury 4 door sedan.

If you want a 4 Door Sedan be my guest..

Otherwise Enjoy Camaro.. have a coke and a smile...

G8 is not really a luxury 4 door. That's the CTSV.

spd98 03-25-2009 03:17 PM

GXP for the wife Camaro for me. Perfect combo.


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