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Tran 10-05-2011 01:43 PM

Camaro ZL1 Laps Nurburgring in 7:41.27. Enters Supercar Territory!!
 
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GM North American President Mark Reuss has confirmed that the ZL1 laps the Nurburgring in 7:41.27 :thumbup:

Source: http://twitter.com/#!/jasonlaird/statuses/121629905711677440
(Jason Laird's title is Executive Director - Product and Technology Communications at General Motors)

Video Proof:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mhjGERugh0



Photo of Mark Reuss, talking today in LA (behind him is the ZL1 which accomplished this Nurburgring lap time):

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/attach...3&d=1317841654


Here's a summary of what GM North America president Mark Reuss said about the ZL1 at today's meeting in LA:

Quote:

Mark Reuss, president of General Motors North America flew from sunny and warm Detroit to rainy and chilly Los Angeles to address media members on Wednesday. Once he arrived, the climate change was evident in the room close to Los Angeles International Airport; this man's enthusiasm for automobiles, motorsports and General Motors is evident by his demeanor and excitement for the future.

The first item Reuss addressed was the vehicle on display outside the hotel where the meeting was held - Chevrolet's Camaro ZL1. The street and circuit-worthy Camaro wasn't terribly pretty but it looked, at first glance, that it was worthy of great performance.

Reuss stated as much - from personal experience - as he was one of the drivers to conduct performance validation on this machine on the famed Nurburgring Nordschleife circuit of 14.173 miles in Germany, where the LSR-powered V8 muscle car turned an incredible 7 minutes, 41.27 seconds in a single lap, he said. Can anyone remember a GM president that was enough of an enthusiast to take part in a session of this type? Didn't think so.

The ZL1 was "forgiving and neutral," Reuss, a Grand-Am-licensed competitor said. "I was able to drive deeper than I ever have." He especially enjoyed passing the Porsche GT3's that were lapping concurrently, before the car was boxed and returned from Germany to the GM proving grounds and then brought to Los Angeles for this morning appearance. The street car will have its debut during the mid-November Los Angeles International Auto Show.

via Motorauthority
And this is a photo of the ZL1 which accomplished this laptime:

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Here are some comparison times which shows that the ZL1's amazing time is squarely in supercar territory!

Pos Make / Model Time Speed (km/h) Year Power (hp) / Weight (kg) Driven by
1. Radical SR8LM 6:48.00 182 0 455 / 650 Radical
2. Radical SR8 6:55.00 179 '05 363 / 650 Radical
3. Gumpert Apollo Speed 7:11.57 172 '09 700 / 1200 Gumpert
4. Dodge Viper SRT-10 ACR 7:12.13 172 '08 600 / 1536 Dominik Farnbacher
5. Lexus LFA Nurburgring Package 7:14.64 171 '12 570 / 1509 Lexus
6. Donkervoort D8 RS 7:14.89 171 '05 350 / 600 Michael Duechting
7. Porsche 911 GT2 RS 7:18.00 169 '10 620 / 1370 Porsche
8. Radical SR3 Turbo 7:19.00 169 '03 320 / 500 Phil Bennett
9. Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 7:19.63 169 '08 647 / 1530 General Motors
10. Dodge Viper SRT-10 ACR 7:22.10 168 '08 600 / 1536 Motor Trend
11. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Z07 Package 7:22.68 168 '11 512 / 1394 General Motors
12. Lexus LFA Nurburgring Package 7:22.85 167 '12 570 / 1509 Lexus
13. Gumpert Apollo Sport 7:24.00 167 '07 700 / 1200 Sport Auto
14. Nissan GT-R 7:24.22 167 '11 530 / 1736 Nissan
15. Maserati MC12 7:24.29 167 '04 632 / 1335 Marc Basseng
16. Pagani Zonda F Clubsport 7:24.65 167 '05 650 / 1230 Marc Basseng
17. Ferrari Enzo 7:25.21 167 '02 660 / 1365 Marc Basseng
18. Nissan GT-R 7:26.70 166 '08 479 / 1740 Toshio Suzuki
19. Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 7:27.00 166 '11 500 / 1360 Porsche
20. Ferrari 458 Italia 7:28.00 166 '09 570 / 1485 Scuderia Autoropa
21. Porsche Carrera GT 7:28.71 165 '03 612 / 1380 Marc Basseng
22. Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 7:30.00 165 '11 500 / 1360 Sport Auto
23. Porsche 911 GT2 7:31.00 164 '07 530 / 1440 Auto Motor und Sport
24. Porsche 911 Turbo S 7:32.00 164 '10 530 / 1585 Porsche
25. Pagani Zonda F 7:33.00 164 '05 602 / 1371 Sport Auto
26. Porsche 911 GT3 RS 7:33.00 164 '10 450 / 1400 Sport Auto
27. Koenigsegg CCX 7:33.55 164 '06 806 / 1456 Marc Basseng
28. Koenigsegg CCR 7:34.00 163 '04 806 / 1418 Sport Auto
29. Audi R8 GT 7:34.00 163 '10 560 / 1520 Sport Auto
30. Nissan GT-R Spec-V 7:34.46 163 '09 492 / 1680 Best Motoring
31. RUF RT12 7:35.00 163 '05 650 / 1573 Sport Auto
32. Porsche 911 Turbo 7:38.00 162 '06 480 / 1585 Porsche
33. Lexus LF-A 7:38.00 162 '10 560 / 1609 Sport Auto
34. Lamborghini Gallardo LP 570-4 Superleggera 7:38.00 162 '10 570 / 1430 Sport Auto
35. Ferrari 430 Scuderia 7:39.00 162 '07 510 / 1402 Sport Auto
36. Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 7:40.00 161 '06 640 / 1805 Auto Bild Sportscars
37. McLaren Mercedes SLR 7:40.00 161 '03 626 / 1693 Auto Bild
38. Porsche 911 GT3 7:40.00 161 '09 435 / 1376 Walter Rohrl
39. Porsche 911 Carrera S 7:40.00 161 '11 400 / 1415 Porsche
2012 Camaro ZL1 7:41.27
40. Porsche 911 GT3 7:42.00 161 '06 415 / 1395 Walter Rohrl
41. Radical SR3 7:42.00 161 '02 205 / 495
42. Lamborghini Murcielago LP 670-4 SuperVeloce 7:42.00 161 '09 670 / 1664 Sport Auto
43. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 7:42.90 160 '05 513 / 1437 Jan Magnussen
44. Porsche 911 GT3 RS 7:43.00 160 '03 381 / 1360 Motor
45. Pagani Zonda C12 S 7:44.00 160 '02 555 / 1250 Sport Auto
46. Audi R8 V10 5.2 FSI 7:44.00 160 '09 525 / 1620 Sport Auto
47. Mercedes CLK 63 Black Series 7:45.00 159 '07 507 / 1745 Berndt Schneider
48. Gardner Douglas GD T70 Spyder 7:45.00 159 '10 710 / 900 Dario Margutti
49. Porsche 911 GT2 7:46.00 159 '00 460 / 1430 Sport Auto
50. Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera 7:46.00 159 '07 530 / 1520 Auto
51. Jaguar XJ220 7:46.37 159 '92 549 / 1470 John Nielsen
52. Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano 7:47.00 159 '06 620 / 1748 Sport Auto
53. Wiesmann GT MF5 7:47.00 159 '08 507 / 1380 Sport Auto
54. Porsche 911 Turbo 7:47.00 159 '09 500 / 1570 Sport Auto
55. Porsche 911 GT3 RS 7:48.00 158 '06 415 / 1375 Sport Auto
56. BMW M3 GTS 7:48.00 158 '10 450 / 1543 Sport Auto
57. Lamborghini Murcielago 7:50.00 158 '02 580 / 1800 Sport Auto
58. BMW M3 CSL 7:50.00 158 '03 360 / 1385 Sport Auto
59. Porsche 911 Carrera S 7:50.00 158 '08 385 / 1425
60. Mercedes SL65 AMG Black Series 7:51.00 157 '09 670 / 1870 Sport Auto
61. Lamborghini Gallardo 7:52.00 157 '03 500 / 1613 Sport Auto
62. Ford GT 7:52.00 157 '04 550 / 1538 Sport Auto
63. Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4 7:52.00 157 '08 560 / 1530 Sport Auto
64. Mercedes CLK DTM 7:54.00 156 '04 582 / 1678 Sport Auto
65. Porsche 911 GT3 7:54.00 156 '03 380 / 1380 Sport Auto
66. Ferrari F430 7:55.00 156 '05 489 / 1450 Sport Auto
67. Caterham R500 1.8L K Series 7:55.00 156 '99 233 / 450 EVO
68. BMW M5 7:55.00 156 '11 560 / 1870 BMW
69. Porsche 911 Turbo 7:56.00 156 '00 420 / 1540 Sport Auto
70. Ferrari 360 CS 7:56.00 156 '03 425 / 1280 Sport Auto
71. Ferrari California GT 7:56.00 156 '09 460 / 1787
72. Porsche Panamera Sport Chrono Turbo 7:56.00 156 '09 500 / 1974 Auto Bild
73. Porsche Panamera Turbo 7:56.00 156 '09 500 / 1870 Walter Rohrl
74. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 7:56.00 156 '02 411 / 1414 General Motors
75. Porsche 911 GT3 7:56.33 156 '99 360 / 1350 Walter Rohrl

tweeter81 10-05-2011 01:47 PM

Wow! That is much faster than I had anticipated when comparing it to the CTS-V's lap time (my guess was orginally about a 7:55, but after hearing the latest news and watching the track vids I had guessed around a 7:51). I guess the much fatter and better rubber and all the track goodies really made a huge difference. Aero must have had a big part to play as well.

Still, 18 seconds faster than the V, that is craziness!!! I love it!!!

ooojerry 10-05-2011 01:48 PM

Well MR must be kicking some ass as well.

Shurenuff 10-05-2011 01:49 PM

Holy shart!!! :confused0068::confused0068::confused0068:

ShnOmac 10-05-2011 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shurenuff (Post 3844562)
Holy shart!!! :confused0068::confused0068::confused0068:

:word:

Shurenuff 10-05-2011 01:54 PM

My mind is blown.

Is this even possible? Faster than a Z06 and ZR1, not to mention the other cars it eclipses? Seriously? I'm almost having a hard time believing this is true.

Edit: times have since been updated with the best, most recent runs by the ZR1 and Z06.

anthonyj9h 10-05-2011 01:56 PM

im still not going to buy it lol id rather have the new porsche.....enjoy ur gg tax

ShnOmac 10-05-2011 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shurenuff (Post 3844591)
My mind is blown.

Is this even possible? Faster than a Z06 and ZR1, not to mention the other cars it eclipses? Seriously? I'm almost having a hard time believing this is true.

Well if it is true..... It is FRECKIN AMAZING!

ShnOmac 10-05-2011 01:59 PM

Wait .....who is Jason Laird?

EDIT: Executive Director - Product and Technology Communications at General Motors

IOMZL1 10-05-2011 02:02 PM

http://jalopnik.com/5846922/camaro-zl1-laps-nurburgring-in-74127

Wholly crapolla! I was guessing high 7:40s and I thought that was a stretch!!!

I almost don’t believe this to be honest, but if it is true I couldn’t have asked for anything more.

GoldenBear 10-05-2011 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shurenuff (Post 3844591)
My mind is blown.

Is this even possible? Faster than a Z06 and ZR1, not to mention the other cars it eclipses? Seriously? I'm almost having a hard time believing this is true.

The latest Z06 and ZR1 Nurburgring times are 7:22.68 and 7:19.63, respectively. Still 7:41.27 for the ZL1 is quite impressive. It's 11 seconds faster than I was expecting.

Of course, the possible downside of all of this, the videos showing all of the technology that the ZL1 has, and the excellent performance numbers that are starting to be released, could be is that Chevrolet is preparing us for a MSRP for the ZL1 that is higher than we'd like it to be.

hv92 10-05-2011 02:03 PM

HOLY SHIT. IT BEAT THE DAMN GTR? WOW. I AM SPEECHLESS.

SGOS252382 10-05-2011 02:03 PM

How in the world can a 3900 lb car with more weight, less HP, and smaller tires be faster than a ZR1?

Something is very interesting to say the least.

djsnoflake 10-05-2011 02:04 PM

Say WHAAAAAAAAAA???

gkviper192 10-05-2011 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SGOS252382 (Post 3844641)
How in the world can a 3900 lb car with more weight, less HP, and smaller tires be faster than a ZR1?

Something is very interesting to say the least.

this are not even close to the latest best times for the zo6 or zr1.. i can't speak for the others on that list

ShnOmac 10-05-2011 02:06 PM

I got a funny feeling someone is going to be in trouble... Why would GM want this put out on twitter and not a official release????

Mikes SS 10-05-2011 02:06 PM

^^yep, probably

KKreme15 10-05-2011 02:07 PM

Omg omg holy crap! I just freaked out in the library. Amazing time. ****

SGOS252382 10-05-2011 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gkviper192 (Post 3844653)
this are not even close to the latest best times for the zo6 or zr1.. i can't speak for the others on that list

Must be.
The current model ZR1 would smoke the ZL1 around a road course. That's just the way it is.

600+hp and 3300 lbs with huge rubber will definitely out run a ZL1.

Sean@Phastek 10-05-2011 02:08 PM

Very impressive!! Can't wait for this car to hit the streets

There is a video from Motor Trend Magazine of the car starting up that they shared on Facebook, http://www.facebook.com/Phastek

Shurenuff 10-05-2011 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gkviper192 (Post 3844653)
this are not even close to the latest best times for the zo6 or zr1.. i can't speak for the others on that list

Are these the best times listed prior to the Z06 and ZR1 recent runs with the new pilot sport tires?

I also assume the GTR time is the one prior to this model year.

Incredible nevertheless.

TaylorRyanSS 10-05-2011 02:08 PM

:headbang:

SGOS252382 10-05-2011 02:10 PM

Yeah, I just saw on a different site that the ZR1 did the Nurburgring in
7.19 sec. which is wayyyy faster.

http://www.autoweek.com/article/2011...NEWS/110609854

djsnoflake 10-05-2011 02:14 PM

Might want to update the OP with more current times. A bit misleading.

Also, I hope this is real and not a Fake Twitter account. I mean, who announces this kind of shit on Twitter? Didn't know that was GM standard now

ShnOmac 10-05-2011 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djsnoflake (Post 3844702)
Might want to update the OP with more current times. A bit misleading.

Also, I hope this is real and not a Fake Twitter account. I mean, who announces this kind of shit on Twitter? Didn't know that was GM standard now

Apparently its a real account...

http://twitter.com/#!/jasonlaird


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