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carguy 11-07-2011 02:48 PM

Blown LS3 in Sec. Gen
 
Well I am going to do it. ( For those who care)

Just ordered my TVS2300 supercharged LS3 from Turn Key and all the parts needed to drop that Baby in my 30,000 original mile 1980 Z28 Camaro.

This should be a very intertesting project. One I have thought long and hard about. Over Drive no Overdrive, LS6 Blown, LS9, LS7 ,oh my goodness the Choices.

Well the verdict is in, no Overdrive and a blown LS3. Now if it only fits as well as they say it will. It should be a blast. 500 lbs less car Maybe more if you figure the weight reduction in the engine compartment.

Oh Ya ...The funny part...I am pulling a 6/71 supercharged 350 to put this one in.

You may ask why.... I love fuel injection, intercoolers and drag reduction!

Out with the old in with the new....

The only thing left bothering me is ?

Should I Have gotten the OD trans as well ? Oh well. I guess we will see.

Well...bottom line. Stay tuned for updates. I am told 3 weeks for the motor so I will keep those who are interested informed and will post an occasional picture. The Before pic is in My albums under my screen name for those who care.


Sorry to bore those who don't.....If anybody has had any experience with such a project I am all ears.

Thanks for your Time..... :headbang:

itsadryheat79 11-07-2011 03:35 PM

I did an LS7 in mine - Not sure of your build but work planning to get traction for all that power to the ground and stopping :)
- My build http://www.pro-touring.com/showthrea...ro-Crazy-in-AZ

BTW: I was told my engine would be three weeks too - different vendor and defiantly did not happen that fast!

rbad72bowtie 11-22-2011 09:02 PM

i have an ls in my camaro with a 3 speed and hated it so im putting the overdrive in. i also have 4:10 gears so highway driving sucked
i pulled a 1300 hp procharged small block from my car to put the ls in and its more fun to drive and alot less noise lol

Drew10 11-22-2011 09:17 PM

I love the idea. Please keep us updated on the progress. Thanks for sharing.

Edit: just checked your pictures, you my friend have an awsome collection. Keep up the good work.:thumbsup:

carguy 12-06-2011 08:32 AM

Well, you were right on the three weeks....still waiting.

I think everybody went to Glamus over Thanksgiving and forgot to build my motor. They were blaming the timing on Magnusun parts not all being there but this is my third Maggie plus maggie upgrades and have never had any delay from them and they are in Cali. Just like turn Key...granted not across the street but not like it should take a month for shipping or anything.

Anyway, I am pretty committed at this point. Motor is out, and sold. Got a big empty hole waiting for my new power plant. Was told should go out this week.Dyno is supposedly down. They can run it with a load but no read outs until its fixed. Might have them just run it to seat everything and wait and put It on the chassis dyno when I get it in here. I guess we will see. Just waiting and can't wait to get that baby in. I opted out of the overdrive for now. I figured I would try it with the setup I am currently running since it was pretty dialed in with my other blower motor.

Might need to change later but I thought I would at least try it before changing. If I go OD I will probably throw a nine inch in at the same time so I don't have to keep buying drive shafts. I have a 3:42 with turbo 350 now so far so good and I have pretty much beat the heck out of it so might as well Finnish them off.

If I can't get some of that power hooked up nothing will probably break....but, that's no fun.

I will start post some pics as soon as the crate arrives....can't wait, Merry Christmas to me !

Stay turned.....

itsadryheat79 12-06-2011 02:34 PM

A charged LS3 with a 350 behind it - interesting! :popcorn:
hmmm with this much HP will it blend? - http://willitblend.com/videos/view/130

The Stig 12-06-2011 02:39 PM

:needpics:

carguy 12-06-2011 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by stieger (Post 4126046)
:needpics:

Nothing to show but a big hollow engine compartment right now. If you want to see pics of the car check out my albums. Plenty of pics there. As soon as there is something to take a picture of there will be plenty along with detailed info on how it's going together. When motor arrives there will be pics same day!

So all who want pics give turnkey a call and tell them to send me my motor !:popcorn:

carguy 12-06-2011 07:55 PM

Before......

http://camaro5.com/forums/album.php?...ictureid=14198


http://camaro5.com/forums/album.php?...ictureid=14197

I will take a pic of the empty engine compartment tomorrow....

calbert1999 12-06-2011 10:08 PM

Get forged crank, pistons and solid stainless intake and exhaust valves. Lot's of dead boosted LS3's around lately.

carguy 12-07-2011 07:06 AM

QUOTE=calbert1999;4128342]Get forged crank, pistons and solid stainless intake and exhaust valves. Lot's of dead boosted LS3's around lately.[/QUOTE]

Done all that....Nothing but the good stuff !

I am a blower motor addict and have personally experienced the Wrath of too much boost on several occasions. This will be my 3rd Blown LS3 and so far so good, although I am stepping it up on the boost so Forged Guts is a must !

Although, I have two Blown 2010's one with almost 30,000 miles that has had the blower on it since i brought it home from the dealer and all I have broken is axles and Trans output shaft. All covered on Warranty.( 8lbs Boost 570 rwhp, 652 at crank))

I have also set up Three others with the same combo...one a convertible. Again nothing broken there yet either, except axles and tranny's. Need a good tune, good gas, and fuel system and all is good.

Just got to know when to stop boosting. I am pushing it, but if she goes, its back to TurnKey...or someone else if my motor doesn't come soon!

http://http://www.turnkeyenginesupply.com/products/LS3-6.2L-Supercharged-V%252d8-710-HP.html

This is my package only adding TVS2300 instead of Ken Belle only for hood clearance reasons.

Turn Key has many Hi performance supercharged engine packages all solid....just need to get mine !

:popcorn:

Still waiting

itsadryheat79 12-07-2011 10:59 AM

Hmm - TVS2300 and Kenney Bell - any reason you did not do a Whipple?

carguy 12-07-2011 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by itsadryheat79 (Post 4130448)
Hmm - TVS2300 and Kenney Bell - any reason you did not do a Whipple?

Just knew from measuring my existing cars that I think I can get it under the factory hood. Also have done 5 Maggie's already so pretty familiar with them and even have some extra pulleys and belts sitting around.

calbert1999 12-07-2011 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by carguy (Post 4131130)
Just knew from measuring my existing cars that I think I can get it under the factory hood. Also have done 5 Maggie's already so pretty familiar with them and even have some extra pulleys and belts sitting around.

You should try someting different.
Curious though, why a LS3? How come you didn't get them to bore it to a 418 or 427?

carguy 12-07-2011 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by calbert1999 (Post 4132040)
You should try someting different.
Curious though, why a LS3? How come you didn't get them to bore it to a 418 or 427?

Should have had it stroked but started out with the LS6 supercharged package that was quite a bit cheaper...than one thing lead to another and I started talking to Kolby at Turn Key and he said he saw a couple second gen camaro's with the same package at SEMA and they were under hood so I bit the bullet and went to the 700hp package.

But as we sit here today I can't tell you how many times I have almost picked up the phone to see if it was too late to stroke it but that complicates too many things at this stage of the game. I would have to overdrive the blower on the back side to compensate for the increase ci's as well as a new crank, so yes looking back to do it again I would go with a 427 ci version of the ls3 but in reality, I don't think it's going to make much difference on the street and it's nuttin but a toy for the street so I think I am pretty much over the top for now anyway. My2010's keep me grinning all day and this package should be even more fun...can't wait.

Got a friend that put a Ford Coyote Motor in a really clean but old70's maverick.
That's what started this Krap. It is an absolute ball!

Now it's my turn......lol

And as I am writing this he is scouring the net for a Pinto...:sm0:

He is all into the power to weight ratio thing....

Where it ends who knows....if I loose one in my 2010's I will definitely stroke it.

You kinda stabbed me in the heart with the question cause it has been bothering me everyday that I didn't. Just hadnt told anybody:bellyroll:

calbert1999 12-07-2011 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by carguy (Post 4132585)
Should have had it stroked but started out with the LS6 supercharged package that was quite a bit cheaper...than one thing lead to another and I started talking to Kolby at Turn Key and he said he saw a couple second gen camaro's with the same package at SEMA and they were under hood so I bit the bullet and went to the 700hp package.

But as we sit here today I can't tell you how many times I have almost picked up the phone to see if it was too late to stroke it but that complicates too many things at this stage of the game. I would have to overdrive the blower on the back side to compensate for the increase ci's as well as a new crank, so yes looking back to do it again I would go with a 427 ci version of the ls3 but in reality, I don't think it's going to make much difference on the street and it's nuttin but a toy for the street so I think I am pretty much over the top for now anyway. My2010's keep me grinning all day and this package should be even more fun...can't wait.

Got a friend that put a Ford Coyote Motor in a really clean but old70's maverick.
That's what started this Krap. It is an absolute ball!

Now it's my turn......lol

And as I am writing this he is scouring the net for a Pinto...:sm0:

He is all into the power to weight ratio thing....

Where it ends who knows....if I loose one in my 2010's I will definitely stroke it.

You kinda stabbed me in the heart with the question cause it has been bothering me everyday that I didn't. Just hadnt told anybody:bellyroll:

Sorry, bro'. But, seemed to me it just made more sense especially considering the cost associated, and the block for a 376, 418 or 427 is all the same.

But, yes at 700rwhp. that will be plenty for the street.

I'm in the same boat as you waiting for engine to get done so I can drive, unfortunately for me winter is here, and won't be able to drive until spring, so kind of takes away the enjoyment. My engine build has been going on since mid June.

Any eta for when you will get the new monster engine?

carguy 12-08-2011 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by calbert1999 (Post 4134252)
Sorry, bro'. But, seemed to me it just made more sense especially considering the cost associated, and the block for a 376, 418 or 427 is all the same.

But, yes at 700rwhp. that will be plenty for the street.

I'm in the same boat as you waiting for engine to get done so I can drive, unfortunately for me winter is here, and won't be able to drive until spring, so kind of takes away the enjoyment. My engine build has been going on since mid June.

Any eta for when you will get the new monster engine?

Talked to Kolby tonight...he said should be finishing up by Friday....

I guess we will see. Winter here as well just no snow yet. I am building or starting to build the fuel system now. I want to put the pump in the tank instead of using an external pump that they send with the kit.

I am having a tank built at rock valley as we speak. They are working with aero motive to custom build me a tank that I can service the pump and filters from the rear end side of the tank without dropping the tank.

I wanna make sure the pump stays cool and the best way to do that is put it in the tank.

Already sold my other motor so I am ready to rock.

carguy 12-08-2011 11:17 AM

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Here is the big hole I promised. Sorry about the quality...Phone pic.

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For a bonus I added my buddy's `1970 Maverick with coyote motor.

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yes he will be painting it...just enjoying it until the snow flies for now. Boy does at haul Azz!:bow:

midnighter 12-08-2011 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by carguy (Post 4136070)
Here is the big hole I promised. Sorry about the quality...Phone pic.

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For a bonus I added my buddy's `1970 Maverick with coyote motor.

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yes he will be painting it...just enjoying it until the snow flies for now. Boy does at haul Azz!:bow:

That's a sick Maverick!

carguy 12-08-2011 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by midnighter (Post 4136089)
That's a sick Maverick!

Yes it is !

I never thought I would say I thought there was such a thing as a sick Maverick ! but this my friend is just that.

This thing breaks the tires loose at 80MPH.

I didn't even think there were any Mavericks left...Thought they all desolved. This thing is clean. He bought it for 6 grand with a 351 in it and sold motor and trans.

It has a c4 3 speed auto with 3:25 gears in a 8 inch rear.

Blows peoples minds. Nothing more fun than going to the Ford dealer...or anywhere else for that matter, to get the oil Changed ! The facial expressions when they open the hood are worth a million bucks.:D

Not a true hard core Ford guy but I can tell you there have been a lot of vettes and Camaros left sitting at the stop light wondering what the heck just happened.:mad0259:


Anyway...not a Ford Thread so I will leave it at that. Just thoght it was worth sharing in case you pull up next to a green 70 Maverick in Illinois at a stop light. Be warned...some things aren't always how they appear.:rolleyes:

Good day folks and as soon as I get my motor I will begin the instal details for those who have intrest. Should be fun. Hopefully I will be able to take a Maverick.:chevy:

carguy 12-13-2011 07:23 PM

Well another set. Back.... Manual throttle body interferes with Maggie Drive setup. Have to switch to drive by wire. Now I have to wait for a retune to include drive by wire. I will also loose the kick down function on the turbo 350. No biggie....:popcorn:

carguy 12-14-2011 03:54 PM

Blown LS3 waiting to go in....
 
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Well,

Were getting Closer. Here is the l;ittle jewel as it is being finnished up at turn Key. Should go on Dyno Tomorrow or Friday.:drool:

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calbert1999 12-14-2011 10:44 PM

Wow. Nice works. All the shiny billet pulleys. Is this a custom LS3? Definately, not crate GM stuff.

carguy 12-15-2011 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by calbert1999 (Post 4167913)
Wow. Nice works. All the shiny billet pulleys. Is this a custom LS3? Definately, not crate GM stuff.

It was built by turnkey engine supply they have many LS packages available from mild to wild....

This is their 710 HP version only they put a maggie on it for me instead of a Ken Bell. I was worried about hood clearance. I want to keep it under my stock Z28 hood.

Wheter it fits or not or should I say I will have to see what I have to do to Make it fit....Soon as it gets here.

www.TurnKeyEngine.com

Oneslowz28 02-06-2012 02:45 PM

Very cool, should be fun. Any recent updates?


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