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lil_red_v6 01-23-2012 09:54 PM

motor trend on z28 ideas
 
http://wot.motortrend.com/thread-of-...as-160763.html

ron10 01-23-2012 10:13 PM

well written.

OldScoolCamaro 01-23-2012 10:18 PM

Sounds like a rehash of our boards and threads, nothing there beyond what we have already discussed here.

DGthe3 01-24-2012 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro (Post 4366143)
Sounds like a rehash of our boards and threads, nothing there beyond what we have already discussed here.

I don't know. There is a lot of what we've discussed, but there is also a bunch of random crap thrown in from people that are fanboys for other cars, then there's a few decent ideas that I don't remember seeing on Camaro5. But from the sounds of it, a lot of the what the fans of the Z28 over on Motortrend are saying falls in line with the most popular ideas that we've discussed here.

OldScoolCamaro 01-24-2012 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3 (Post 4366756)
I don't know. There is a lot of what we've discussed, but there is also a bunch of random crap thrown in from people that are fanboys for other cars, then there's a few decent ideas that I don't remember seeing on Camaro5.

I posted a bit prematurely DG, I only read the article writers initial comments and question surrounding the pole. I didn't hit on the link or read any further into. In retrospect I should have delved further into it before posting. Like Dragoneye says''' Read before you post" ;) :thumbsup:

htron50 01-24-2012 10:48 AM

When the article said the ZL1 would be limited to 2013/2014 did he really mean 2012/2103??? Whats your guess (since he did not even mention 2012)....

S-eatin-grin 01-24-2012 11:38 AM

So one person posts in the comments that he has "sources" that confirm that the Z 28 is already in the works and we won't have much input because it's already being tested...:thumbdown: IDK if I believe that. Most of the comments do keep rehashing what the Z28 should be and what I don't get is why people think it should be some middle of the pack HP# well handling car???

We are in the midst of a muscle car war here folks!!! Build the baddest, fastest, strongest, on the edge of street legal ride you can. The Z 28 should resemble what the majority of SS owners are trying to achieve in modding their current Camaros...better suspension/handling and drive train, lighter wheels, better/wider tire patch, stiff chasis, weight reduction whereever possible coupled with INSANE HP/TQ!!!

I hear all this crap about the Corvette..."chevy won't let the camaro have more HP/TQ than the flagship vette" WHY??? The corvette is not in competition with another make/model.

I've selected mods for my camaro (see sig) that have resulted in a safe/strong 731 HP at the crank and am running on pump gas and am street legal (for now). If I had some carbon fiber panels here and there for weight reduction, some ground effects, that MR suspension, the new ligenfelter diff and some light weight forged wheels I'd have what I think the Z28 should be.

2cnd chance 01-24-2012 01:37 PM

Chevy has said the ZL1 is the Flagship Camaro. The Z28 should be the Boss comparo. It would also fill the HUGE $$,$$$ gap in the Camaro program. I could elaborate, but I won't. Nuff' said.

htron50 01-24-2012 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance (Post 4368329)
Chevy has said the ZL1 is the Flagship Camaro. The Z28 should be the Boss comparo. It would also fill the HUGE $$,$$$ gap in the Camaro program. I could elaborate, but I won't. Nuff' said.


No Need. We get it! Same page.

2cnd chance 01-24-2012 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by htron50 (Post 4368476)
No Need. We get it! Same page.

We, but not poster #7. :drinking:

S-eatin-grin 01-24-2012 03:16 PM

apparently (according to one unconfirmed source) the flagship ZL1 will be gone in 2 years then what?? All I'm saying is that GM should try to swing for the fence in this pony war...would it have killed them put a 2.3 L supercharged LS7 in the flagship instead of the 1.9 L supercharged LSA?? Anybody out there with an SS that slapped any of the aftermarket SC's on their car are at the same numbers as the ZL1. I know that "numbers" arn't everything, especially to anyone that knows what it takes to effectively use the power but to the general public...it looks like the flagship got spanked before it was even in production.

2cnd chance 01-24-2012 03:19 PM

^key word looks.

S-eatin-grin 01-24-2012 03:21 PM

well lets work with that assumption...then what would your answer be if the flagship is a limited model?

S-eatin-grin 01-24-2012 03:23 PM

Do you still think that the Z28 shouldn't be the top dog camaro if the ZL1 goes away? Should it still stick with competing with the boss if the ZL1 goes away and leave the GT500 alone as the uncontested champ of muscle cars?

htron50 01-24-2012 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by S-eatin-grin (Post 4368911)
Do you still think that the Z28 shouldn't be the top dog camaro if the ZL1 goes away? Should it still stick with competing with the boss if the ZL1 goes away and leave the GT500 alone as the uncontested champ of muscle cars?

Me thinks it don't make no never mind. GM gotza plan. ZL1 is leading da pack. You may no think it lookey too good, but you aint seen it runnin yet an nobody else can say theirs is a factory warranty mobile, now son, stop that hollerin an get wit it. Assume so the Z28, if it do come out, wudnt take no back seat nietha . :paddle: :paddle: :yikes:

LOWDOWN 01-24-2012 04:00 PM

As long as there's a GT 500 there'll be ZL1...in this Generation. Post-'15, when the Gen-6 Camaro is due, anyone's guess or assumption is possible..."likely" is a WHOLE 'nother story...

Expect the ZL1 to last thru MY '15...I do...

2cnd chance 01-24-2012 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by S-eatin-grin (Post 4368911)
Do you still think that the Z28 shouldn't be the top dog camaro if the ZL1 goes away? Should it still stick with competing with the boss if the ZL1 goes away and leave the GT500 alone as the uncontested champ of muscle cars?

Your not looking at it through the eyes of profit-making. To compete you need to provide as much or more "value" than the competition. It just so happens we're talking muscle cars. So to compete we need to offer like for like products, and then to offer more value per product. As it stands the Camaro competes on every level except...that's right Fords Boss, enter the Z28. As one improves their products competitively the other must continue if they are to stay in the game. It goes on and on.


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