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Connor 11-14-2007 04:24 PM

Manual or Automatic?
 
Hey everyone, I'm new here. Nice to meet you all :)

I'm only 14, but have basically been promised a new camaro when I turn 16. Lucky me. My question is, manual or automatic for my first car? I saw one comment about someone's worst car description, and it included an automatic transmission. I'm just wondering the pros of a manual transmission, and if it's worth learning to drive a car with one. Thanks =)

Emher 11-14-2007 04:41 PM

I'd say definetly learn to drive a manual. Even though I'm most likely getting an automatic for my Camaro, it is a good thing to know and gives you a way better knowledge of how to drive a car (reasons for me getting an automatic is that I myself isn't the best manual transmission driver in the world and I'll probably be wanting to go on like cruising nights with my Camaro and that's a bitch with manual, also it will most likely be my working car so I'll probably hvae to be able to drive it easily in town whilst on the phone). Plus imagine this: you get the oppurtunity to drive an insanely cool car, but you can't since it's a manual and you only know how to drive automatic.

The_Stache 11-14-2007 05:03 PM

Learn to drive an automatic and you can only drive automatics..

Learn to drive a manual and you can drive anything on the road..

Personally I say go with the manual.. but I cringe at someone learning on a brand new car.. don't do it.. just go buy a junker and learn on that first.. that way you don't trash a nice car. (btw i read of one lady that bought a corvette for her husband and he had to learn how to drive the manual in it.. stories of continuous 4k+ rpm clutch drops and such.. not pretty)

Emher 11-14-2007 05:57 PM

^The man speaks truth. I've learnt to drive on the car I drive now, and my sister has started learning as well. The clutch has taken a serious beating, but is still working. My dad has actually said that he's surprised me and my sis haven't killed the cluthc and the gearbox yet :laugh: Gives credit to superb GM build quailty is all I can say.

And actually the whole trash a nice car thing is another reason for me most probably getting the automatic. I **** up way too much still and I do not want to trash the gearbox on my new nice Camaro.

Kahlis 11-15-2007 08:54 AM

Firstly, it must be nice to be a spoiled little shit and have a brand new Camaro handed to him. My first car was bought after a summer cutting grass, and all I could afford was an '84 Dodge 600 with countless miles and oil in the airbox.

I'm just playing dude. :sm0:

I will add though, take the advise from the other guys who already posted. DO NOT turn your brand new Camaro into a test bed for an underaged driver just learning how to drive a stick. Buy a beater and learn that way. Ya **** up the clutch, so what. The car will probably be worth less than a new clutch anyway.

As for my personal opinion,... MANUAL all the way. I've driven both auto and manual. Nothing can top the feeling of coming into a tight turn, downshifting, then dumping the clutch and slamming the gas just at the apex causing the ass end to whip around the bend just before you catch the next gear and haul ass down the straightaway.

Mr. Wyndham 11-15-2007 09:09 AM

I think it really comes down to actually driving one, and figuring out if you like it or not.
I know a couple sports car addicts, who hate stick. Don't ask me why, but they swear by the auto.
And then others who say that autos are useless hunks of crap.

Personally, I have know idea what I want...:iono: ;)

Jeff 11-15-2007 05:27 PM

Well you should learn how to drive a stick no matter what. It will come of use in time. However for it being your first car I would just get a automatic. Reason being is because if your only a teenager while driving it and you need a new clutch.. thats expensive, but I don't know your financial background and if your parents will pay for it lol. Also, I use to have a C4 Vette that was a standard. Believe me, it got to be a pain in stop and go traffic instead of just chilling lol. Don't take this as a biast opinion because its really not, I love standards as far as when I'm riding the car hard. In the end its really just your choice, pick well, and learn how to drive a standard no matter what ;o.

btw I'm 17, turning 18 in twelve days, so I know where your coming from lol.

stovt001 11-15-2007 06:50 PM

My first car was bought for $5,000 and my parents put $1,000 down for me, and I was darn grateful like you wouldn't believe for it. Regardless of how rich I ever become, my kids will still pay for their cars themselves. I learned so much about money and responsibility by paying for my car. It actually was cheap education when you think about it.

On to the topic at hand, as I said in other related threads, it depends on a lot. What will your driving habits be? If you have to drive often in stop and go traffic, a manual might be more hassle than its worth. Also, it depends on how good the manual and automatics are. Good automatics are better than bad manuals, and vice versa. Luckily current GM manual and automatic transmissions are decent at worst and darn good at best, so you can't really go wrong either way I think. GM has historically had among the best auto trannies, but their manuals used to be sub-par. From what I hear recently they really improved. Also, I agree with the general advice of regardless of which one you choose, learn to drive manual on some beater car. You never know when the last good rental on the lot will be a manual transmission.

Connor 11-15-2007 07:04 PM

Thanks for all the comments. As far as buying my own car, I could, but it will be mainly used for school, and since it's a 20 minute drive on an interstate away from where I live, my parents don't really want me buying a piece of shit car. ;) I for sure plan on learning to drive a stick, but I'll probably get an automatic. Don't want to **** it up trying to learn how. :laugh:

stevenm357 11-15-2007 10:10 PM

it depends on how heavy of a population your in... for me i live in a rural area and would NOT own a muscle car with an automatic transmission. i hate them with a passion.

if you live with a TON of stop and go.. it's hard not to go auto. but for me they down shift when i don't want. they up shift before i want.. MY first car was a 5 speed manual and i would never own an auto if i had a good choice in the matter.

Good53X 11-16-2007 01:12 AM

I think everyone here is saying the same thing.

It depends on you.

I, for example, like the direct relationship I have with my engine with a manual transmission. I determine how much power gets to my wheels, I determine when I shift, where my powerband is, and where I sit in it. I determine when I gear down, and thus I brake less and (potentially) save money.

However... all that stuff that I listed that I like about driving with a manual transmission some people HATE! They HATE having to worry about feathering the clutch, or remembering to shift, or having to downshift.

The truth is that you won't really know which option you want until you've learned to drive... and then learned stick. I strongly suggest you learn on an automatic (less things to think about) and then learn to drive stick, at least a little, before buying a brand new car with a manual... that's the only way to ensure you make the right choice for you.

EllwynX 11-16-2007 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by stovt001 (Post 30640)
My first car was bought for $5,000 and my parents put $1,000 down for me, and I was darn grateful like you wouldn't believe for it. Regardless of how rich I ever become, my kids will still pay for their cars themselves. I learned so much about money and responsibility by paying for my car. It actually was cheap education when you think about it.


I hear this argument so often, and it drives me nuts every time.

My parents bought me my first car in 1991. It was a 1982 Camaro Berlinetta V8 with about 65,000 miles on it. It cost $2568. My father had promised to buy my first car for years. In the end each of my parents put $1000 toward it (ok, my mom put $1100) so I ended up jut paying the difference of $468. I didn't even KNOW they'd bought the car. I just came home from school one day, got off the bus and there it was in the driveway. (Having a father and stepfather who insisted on a sports car was nice. lol All they looked at were Camaro's and Firebirds. I would have settled for anything at that time.)

The only stipulation was that I had to get a job and pay for my own insurance. LOL Thinking back I can just imagine how much money they would have saved me if they'd added me onto their policy instead of making me get my own. 17 years old with a V8 Camaro, yeah my insurance was insane.

Now, 16 years later I'm a very responsible adult when it comes to money. And have been all along. Own a house, have good credit, no bills are behind.

So, really, you won't ruin your kids for life if you purchase their first car for them. ;)

Anyone that spends the money on a BRAND NEW car for their child is just insane though.

Sero 11-16-2007 08:28 AM

My first car was a 1979 Toyota Corolla with 250k Plus miles on it. It cost $300 dollars. I had learned to drive a stick when i was about 8 years old in my fathers truck. However, i bought my wife a brand new Tracker after Geo was dissolved, and it took on the name of Chevy Tracker, and taught her how to drive a stick in that. That little transmission sure could take a beating, now the wife likes driving stick more than auto.

For your "training" car, definitely fund some old beater and teach yourself on that, or better yet, find a friend with a beater and ask him to teach you. :)

The_Blur 11-21-2007 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Sero (Post 30706)
For your "training" car, definitely fund some old beater and teach yourself on that, or better yet, find a friend with a beater and ask him to teach you. :)

That's what I'm doing. It's about damned time I learned how to drive the stick.

Dan 11-21-2007 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevenm357 (Post 30666)
it depends on how heavy of a population your in... for me i live in a rural area and would NOT own a muscle car with an automatic transmission. i hate them with a passion.

if you live with a TON of stop and go.. it's hard not to go auto. but for me they down shift when i don't want. they up shift before i want.. MY first car was a 5 speed manual and i would never own an auto if i had a good choice in the matter.

Agreed, I currently have GTO with the manual and do 90% of my driving in the city. It is getting old, i will be going back to an auto next purchase.

Jay 11-21-2007 11:50 AM

manuallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll........... ........enuff said....but please dont learn on the new camaro.... if you cant buy a beater car first.... then go take like 3-4 lessons on a stick car as is you were taking driving lessons..... as long as you get a hold of it.... your set.

Jeff 11-22-2007 01:27 AM

All this talk.. Have you made your decision on what to get yet? :O

Eisenhower 11-22-2007 03:54 PM

Peh' my first car was a '79 accord hatchback, I wish I could've had a Camaro for my 16th B-day.:smoking:

Ok, being as young as you are I'd say go for the automatic, that way you can keep both hands on the wheel.:D Seriously, it provides improved control. I however am getting a 6-spd and recommend a 6-spd to you once you get some good driving experience under your belt.

Good53X 11-22-2007 11:02 PM

Someone commented on city driving growing on their nerves in a manual? I love being in traffic with my manual :) I rarely need to touch the brakes, and I know that the second I need to change lanes or jump into faster moving traffic that the power is there. With an automatic you can't be as pedal-happy, you may have to wait for the car to gear-down.

However it being your first car, automatic for sure, again, not just because of the ease of learning on an automatic, but definitely because for the first few years it's probably a good idea to not have to worry about anything other than traffic. ESPECIALLY in a gorgeous new car, that will undoubtedly get you tickets.

...I normally cruise the city in 4th gear, I wonder how fast that'll be in the new Camaro...

TAG UR IT 11-23-2007 01:33 AM

I commented on city driving getting on my nerves. Actually, it was the rush hour stop and go traffic w/a stick that got on my nerves. I wouldn't trade my 6spd Hurst short throw for anything. But, I would have taken an auto any day over a manual in that Austin rush hour....more like 2 hours we sat in stop and go traffic. My left leg actually was tired after all that clutch action. It was horrible. Driving city streets w/ my regular manual is the only way to go, though.

Raven 11-24-2007 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diarmadhi (Post 30533)
Learn to drive an automatic and you can only drive automatics..

Learn to drive a manual and you can drive anything on the road..

Totally agree. My mother insisted that my first car be a manual and I thank her every day. Most of my freinds when I was younger could only drive an auto so it was good that I liked to drive since none of them could drive my car. :D

stovt001 11-24-2007 02:17 PM

I was reading a British author recently, and he wrote that when he traveled to the U.S., he rented a car with an automatic, and put a look of horror on their faces when he told them he didn't know how to drive a car with an automatic transmission. I would have thought that learning to drive with a manual transmission would allow you to drive anything, but apparently for some Europeans it doesn't.

pearsonmx6 11-25-2007 09:58 PM

i bought half of my first car which was 2200. and thank gawd i did. i dont think any new driver should have a nice expensive car. i wrecked mine twice once in the snow. both were my fault and no one else was arround but if i did that to a new car i would be so screwed right now. so get a beater and drive that for a wile then get some thing nice.

crimsonjester 11-26-2007 04:00 PM

I prefer Automatic for the Rush Hour traffic, that said, I do love my RX8 with the racing pedals on the stearing wheel. When I want to play manual I just use them for downshifting and such.

2010_5thgen 11-26-2007 04:03 PM

manual!! my first car was a 99 brand new red camaro. unfortunately it was auto and a v6 but it had t tops. i wish i had gotten a manual and z28. but i made up for it 3 years later when i got my 99 6 spd trans am.


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