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patrickt 02-25-2012 03:35 PM

Enable your factory radio to add bluetooth or hookup radar detectors etc
 
Hello everyone

I know I am going to catch some flack on this but as my daily driver I just purchased a 2011 Chevrolet Cruze. Basic model just to get to and from the office and save on gas, but hey atleast its a Chevy. With that said I suffer from the bluetooth adiction, and this car doesn't have it and doesn't have Onstar either so no chance of the onstar module change mod.:facepalm: But low and behold through many many hours of looking at wiring diagrams and other technical data I have found that in theory (GM says no but there are alot of things they say no to) it appears that the radio is actually already setup to accept it!

Now you may ask WTF does this have to do with a Camaro and WTF are you doing posting here?!?!?!?!

Here is why. The Cruze and the Camaro both share the same can-buss based audio system.So now you may ask so what? Well as we all know there is a identical equivalant to the Cruze in Austraila, and the closest variant to the Camaro is the Commodore. Well in Austrailia they do not have Onstar and instead through Holden there is a Genuine Holden accessory kit to add bluetooth because appartently from what I read thier in car cell phone laws are 50 times stricter than ours. Now I have tired to find the kit kit but really to no economical avail. Hence I then took it to the books and started researching. The Holden kit is produced by Parrot (they will not sell it in the states its vary odd and uses stardard ISO connectors) Long story short since the Camaro and the Cruze both share the same can-buss base system this mod will work on both. The only difference between the two is the outer control interface but the bare guts and wiring are identical.

Right now if you want to add an integrated aftermarket bluetooth you need to purchase an adaptor harness usually about $100+, a mute module about another $100 and then your bluetooth itself which varries in price but cheapest varients are about $80. So without even taking into effect labor you are looking at a minimum of $280.00 to add aftermarket bluetooth. I have this figure out to a point where you can add it for the cost of the unit so we will use $80.00 and about $20.00 in parts.

I will update you all on my progress but this will work for other things as well such as radar detectors that have radio muting, GPS units and all aftermarket bluetooths.

The Stig 02-25-2012 03:51 PM

:popcorn:

My Caroline 02-25-2012 10:12 PM

:popcorn::thumbup:

I have seen the kits that disconnect the onstar box and replace it with a bluetooth box, but what if I need to keep onstar?
Good luck! Update us soon!

DCC1464 02-25-2012 10:21 PM

:popcorn: this MIGHT be the best thread ever!

patrickt 02-25-2012 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by My Caroline (Post 4545013)
:popcorn::thumbup:

I have seen the kits that disconnect the onstar box and replace it with a bluetooth box, but what if I need to keep onstar?
Good luck! Update us soon!


Really? Do you have any brands so I can see if I can pull up schematics on them? May help in confirming my research before my parts arrive

My Caroline 02-26-2012 12:01 AM

"Argos"
http://www.replaceonstar.com/

"Galaxy 1000"*http://www.galaxy1000.com/

"Bluestar by Costartech"
http://www.costartech.com/

These are the ones I know of. They are all shady at best and all require that you have to get rid of onstar. They basically unplug the onstar box and this plugs in to the harness. Are you making a new system that could use the built in mic (the one in the headline/dome light panel) and integrate to the radio WITHOUT getting rid of onstar? Good luck!

Sterling 02-26-2012 02:18 AM

Hmmmm... interesting thread...:popcorn:

patrickt 02-26-2012 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by My Caroline (Post 4545363)
"Argos"
http://www.replaceonstar.com/

"Galaxy 1000"*http://www.galaxy1000.com/

"Bluestar by Costartech"
http://www.costartech.com/

These are the ones I know of. They are all shady at best and all require that you have to get rid of onstar. They basically unplug the onstar box and this plugs in to the harness. Are you making a new system that could use the built in mic (the one in the headline/dome light panel) and integrate to the radio WITHOUT getting rid of onstar? Good luck!

Thanks for the info I will have to take a look. What I am doing is making an aftermarket system be able to tie into the factory radio and have the over ride control it would say if it was a sony head unit. Basically when a call comes in it will auto mute your factory radio and play through the speakers, and yes without cutting out the onstar. As for the mic I was thinking of doing that too but this the first step

patrickt 02-26-2012 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by My Caroline (Post 4545363)
"Argos"
http://www.replaceonstar.com/

"Galaxy 1000"*http://www.galaxy1000.com/

"Bluestar by Costartech"
http://www.costartech.com/

These are the ones I know of. They are all shady at best and all require that you have to get rid of onstar. They basically unplug the onstar box and this plugs in to the harness. Are you making a new system that could use the built in mic (the one in the headline/dome light panel) and integrate to the radio WITHOUT getting rid of onstar? Good luck!

Wow just took a look at those and they seam really hoaky

Oldtimer426 02-26-2012 08:46 AM

subscribed

Cbrenthus 02-26-2012 08:57 AM

Sounds good, looking forward to hearing more. I'd like the blue star, but it's too much

coolcamaroZ28 02-26-2012 04:53 PM

Definately interested in using the mute line from my Escort 9500ci with my 2SS factory Boston Acousitcs system. Let me know what you find out!

My Caroline 02-26-2012 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patrickt (Post 4545959)
Wow just took a look at those and they seam really hoaky

I told you they were shady! Haha and their reviews are more miss than hit (if you can even find one).

2011redLS 02-28-2012 07:17 PM

Subscribed.

-Trigger- 02-29-2012 03:54 PM

Dont worry dude, I have a 2010 1SS and I got a 2012 a few months ago for Daily Driving Dutys. Its great.

patrickt 03-07-2012 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Trigger- (Post 4564889)
Dont worry dude, I have a 2010 1SS and I got a 2012 a few months ago for Daily Driving Dutys. Its great.

I like it too its a nice little car

patrickt 03-07-2012 11:21 PM

To keep you all updated the parts I suspect I needed finally came in! Now all I need to do is find some free time to start testing. I have come up with a couple backup plans to still make this work even if my inital idea doesn't but I really want it the way I am planning. I will let you all know how I make out

ZooDad 03-10-2012 09:21 PM

Very interested as we will be getting the new 9C1 Caprice with no OnStar.
I have phone controls in steering wheel and radio.

ZooDad

camarorick 03-11-2012 12:41 PM

Subscribed :popcorn:

I have a 2010 Malibu Daily Driver without Blue tooth... I would love to use my cell through the stock radio :thumbsup:

patrickt 03-12-2012 07:54 AM

Ok got a chance to mess around this weekend. Got the terminals in but it did nto work. I did check out the resistance and voltage on the leads and the refference voltage is there. This leads me to believe that it would just need to be programed. I am going to do some experimenting in the shop and will let you all know. I will also post up my research I found so far up incase someone may have some insite I am overlooking

Berzek 05-10-2012 09:43 PM

Any progress on that, Patrick?

I live in Brazil and we don't have Onstar here. So, GM brings the cars w/o the Onstar module and no phone bluetooth, just Mp3 player BT connection. This sucks...

Darth Martel 05-11-2012 08:45 AM

My guess is, that just like the PDIM, any addition to the stock radio, like bluetooth, needs to be "enabled", which only a dealer can do (as far as I know). The GM master website has to be updated to show you have bluetooth enabled, and then that information downloaded(updated) to the radio. The whole thing takes like 5 minutes to do but, unless your radio knows that you now have bluetooth, it just won't work simply by plugging it in.

The only issue I see is that since the stock bluetooth is associated with OnStar and actually physically comes in the OnStar module, there may not be an option to turn it on(if you don't have the OnStar enabled module).

Patrick, I would go to your service techs and have them hook up your car to the tech tool and that to the internet to look at the GM master site and see what options you have available to you. If there is a bluetooth option, select it and save the info. Then update your radio which will tell it to enable the bluetooth. I would take some pictures of this process or some screen shots of it on the pc(cntrl-prtscn) in order to document the procedure for people to take into their dealers. Assuming, of course, that you can get all this to work. ;)

good luck

patrickt 05-11-2012 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth Martel (Post 4945439)
My guess is, that just like the PDIM, any addition to the stock radio, like bluetooth, needs to be "enabled", which only a dealer can do (as far as I know). The GM master website has to be updated to show you have bluetooth enabled, and then that information downloaded(updated) to the radio. The whole thing takes like 5 minutes to do but, unless your radio knows that you now have bluetooth, it just won't work simply by plugging it in.

The only issue I see is that since the stock bluetooth is associated with OnStar and actually physically comes in the OnStar module, there may not be an option to turn it on(if you don't have the OnStar enabled module).

Patrick, I would go to your service techs and have them hook up your car to the tech tool and that to the internet to look at the GM master site and see what options you have available to you. If there is a bluetooth option, select it and save the info. Then update your radio which will tell it to enable the bluetooth. I would take some pictures of this process or some screen shots of it on the pc(cntrl-prtscn) in order to document the procedure for people to take into their dealers. Assuming, of course, that you can get all this to work. ;)

good luck


I honestly just havent had time to pull the car in and play around. It is definatly a programming issue since I have found the pulldown resistor is installed in the radio so the proper signals are there it is just a matter of programming the radio to know what to do. From the factory Holden kit no programming is needed so I am sure if I program the radio as a Holden it will work just will the radio work then because I dont know if thier frequerncies are the same. We will find out once I get a free chance and I will document it all

45anni-gen5 05-28-2012 08:46 PM

bored....YAAAWWWWNNNNNNN

lscamaro 06-25-2012 05:42 PM

Any update on this?


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