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knitetrain05 03-06-2012 04:57 PM

WORLDS RAREST CAMARO
 
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The rarest Camaro of all - http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifthere was one 1968 Z/28 Camaro convertible built for Chevrolet General http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifManager Pete Estes on July 15, 1968. It is the only first generation Z/28 convertible http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifever built. Options included a folding rear seat, auxiliary console-mounted http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifinstruments, http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifauxiliary lighting, power windows, remotehttp://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gif outside mirror, http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifhttp://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifcustom seat belts, performance suspension package, four-wheel disc brakes,http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gif blue light stereo system, positraction, 69 prototype fiberglass hood, http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifcross-ram air and powder coated factory headers. This car was then delivered to Mr. Estes http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifthrough Bill Markley Chevrolet in Detroit, whereupon the car was used as Mr. Estes dailyhttp://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gif transportation until December 17, 1968. On that day, it was officially sold to its first owner,http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gif T.H. Standen. Standen sold the car to Vern Nye, another GM employee, only two years later,http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gif in whose hands it remained for nearly 20 years. Only recently was the car made known to the public. http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gif
http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifI had thought that the car's whereabouts were unknown, but Michael http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifSullivan found it for me! The car was sold at auction to the Rock 'n Roll Toy Store, LTD., in Highland park,http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gif IL. Michael found it on the web, and was kind enough to let me know about it. Thanks, Mike! http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gif
http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifSo how did this car come to be built at all? http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifAccording to Jim Mattison, who worked in the http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifspecial projects division at the time, they needed approval to build the Z/28 for the general http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifpublic instead of trying to build just enough to homologate for SCCA racing. They figured that if http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifPete Estes, http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifthe Chevrolet General manager, drove a Z/28 he would like it enough to approve the plan.http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gif The problem was that Estes was a convertible freak, and he wouldn't drive anything else.http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gif They could give him a regular Z/28 coupe but it would probably just sit in the company garage.http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gif They decided the only solution was to build a convertible Z/28 and give that to Estes. http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifThe result - Estes drove the car, loved it, and we got the Z/28.http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gif

sasquash1984 03-06-2012 04:58 PM

i thought the rarest camaro was the ashgen grey zl1 that was in auction.....jk

Wizard1183 03-06-2012 05:29 PM

Is it for sale? I might be interested in buying a share of it.:sm0:

BLU BY U 03-06-2012 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knitetrain05 (Post 4599225)
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/albumt...?dl=1331073717

The rarest Camaro of all - http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifthere was one 1968 Z/28 Camaro convertible built for Chevrolet General http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifManager Pete Estes on July 15, 1968. It is the only first generation Z/28 convertible http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifever built. Options included a folding rear seat, auxiliary console-mounted http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifinstruments, http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifauxiliary lighting, power windows, remotehttp://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gif outside mirror, http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifhttp://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifcustom seat belts, performance suspension package, four-wheel disc brakes,http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gif blue light stereo system, positraction, 69 prototype fiberglass hood, http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifcross-ram air and powder coated factory headers. This car was then delivered to Mr. Estes http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifthrough Bill Markley Chevrolet in Detroit, whereupon the car was used as Mr. Estes dailyhttp://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gif transportation until December 17, 1968. On that day, it was officially sold to its first owner,http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gif T.H. Standen. Standen sold the car to Vern Nye, another GM employee, only two years later,http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gif in whose hands it remained for nearly 20 years. Only recently was the car made known to the public. http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gif
http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifI had thought that the car's whereabouts were unknown, but Michael http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifSullivan found it for me! The car was sold at auction to the Rock 'n Roll Toy Store, LTD., in Highland park,http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gif IL. Michael found it on the web, and was kind enough to let me know about it. Thanks, Mike! http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gif
http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifSo how did this car come to be built at all? http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifAccording to Jim Mattison, who worked in the http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifspecial projects division at the time, they needed approval to build the Z/28 for the general http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifpublic instead of trying to build just enough to homologate for SCCA racing. They figured that if http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifPete Estes, http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifthe Chevrolet General manager, drove a Z/28 he would like it enough to approve the plan.http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gif The problem was that Estes was a convertible freak, and he wouldn't drive anything else.http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gif They could give him a regular Z/28 coupe but it would probably just sit in the company garage.http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gif They decided the only solution was to build a convertible Z/28 and give that to Estes. http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifThe result - Estes drove the car, loved it, and we got the Z/28.http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gif


Something does not seem right, because the Z/28 came out in 1967, I believe they were 602 built.....

mxkx250 03-06-2012 09:54 PM

Yes, but there were only 600 some odd Z28's sold in 67. This was probaly the number needed for SCCA requirements. They weren't even advertised and only a few people even knew about them. This was probaly the reason they became the popular car that we all love.

spyderbuddy 03-06-2012 10:00 PM

This from the Camaro web page.

1967
The 1967 Camaro shared the subframe / semi-unibody design with the 1968 Chevy II Nova. Almost 80 factory and 40 dealer options, including three main packages, were available.
The RS was an appearance package that included hidden headlights, revised taillights with back-up lights under the rear bumper, RS badging, and exterior rocker trim.
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1967 Camaro SS convertible (with Z28 stripes added)


The SS included a 350 cu in (5.7 L) V8 engine and the L35 and L78 396 cu in (6.5 L) big-block V8's were also available. The SS featured non-functional air inlets on the hood, special striping, and SS badging on the grille, front fenders, gas cap, and horn button. It was possible to order both the SS and RS to receive a Camaro RS/SS. In 1967, a Camaro RS/SS convertible with a 396 engine paced the Indianapolis 500.
The Z/28 option code was introduced in December 1966 for the 1967 model year. It was the brainchild of Vince Piggins, who conceived offering "virtually race-ready" Camaros for sale from any Chevrolet dealer.[1] This option package was not mentioned in any sales literature, so it was unknown to most buyers.[2] The Z/28 option required power front disc brakes and a Muncie 4-speed manual transmission. It featured a 302 cu in (4.9 L) small-block V-8 engine, 3" crankshaft with 4" bore, an aluminum intake manifold, and a 4-barrel vacuum secondary Holley carburetor of 780 cfm. The engine was designed specifically to race in the Trans Am series (which required engines smaller than 305 cu in (5.0 L) and public availability of the car. Advertised power of this engine was listed at 290 hp (216 kW). This is an under-rated figure.[2] Chevrolet wanted to keep the horsepower rating at less than 1 hp per cubic inch, for various reasons (e.g. insurance and racing classes). The factory rating of 290 hp occurred at 5300 rpm, while actual peak for the high-revving 302 was closer to 360 hp (268 kW) (with the single four barrel carb) and 400 hp (298 kW) (with optional dual-four barrel carbs) at 6800-7000 rpm. The Z/28 also came with upgraded suspension, racing stripes on the hood and trunk lid, '302' front fender emblems on the 67 and early 68 cars, and 'Z/28' emblems in late 68 & 69. It was also possible to combine the Z/28 package with the RS package.
Only 602 Z/28s were sold in 1967, along with approximately 100 Indianapolis Pace Car replicas.[3] The 1967 and 1968 Z/28s did not have the cowl induction hood, optional on the 1969 Z/28s. The 1967 Z28 received air from an open element air cleaner or from an optional cowl plenum duct attached to the side of the air cleaner that ran to the firewall and got air from the cowl vents. 15-inch rally wheels were included with Z/28s had while all other 1967-9 Camaros had 14-inch wheels.
The origin of the Z/28 nameplate came from the RPO codes - RPO Z28 was the code for the Special Performance Package. RPO Z27 was for the Super Sport package.
Production numbers:
RS:64,842
SS:34,411
Z28:1,002
Total:221,306

fbodfather 03-06-2012 11:29 PM

It is probably the 'rarest' Camaro ever built.

Jim Mattison has been misquoted.

We built 602 1967 model year Z28s - (.....and there are still 1,800 left!)

( knockoffs.....:) )


The convertible was built to have Pete drive both the cross-ram option and 4-wheel disc brake option.......

Pete loved convertibles -and this was one way to get him behind the wheel.......

..........things were much simpler back then!

I've seen the car on a few occasions -- and it truly is an amazing part of Camaro history!

Amenti 03-07-2012 12:06 AM

That is a pretty spectacular piece of automotive history.

Bad@ssCamaro 03-07-2012 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sasquash1984 (Post 4599230)
i thought the rarest camaro was the ashgen grey zl1 that was in auction.....jk

If you're speaking of the Barrett-Jackson Auction, I believe that ZL1 was Carbon Flash, the only one to be produced in that color. :)

K32 Camaro 03-07-2012 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Bad@ssCamaro (Post 4601703)
If you're speaking of the Barrett-Jackson Auction, I believe that ZL1 was Carbon Flash, the only one to be produced in that color. :)

I think I'll get a zl1 and get an after market carbon flash paint job out of spite..

505specialk 03-07-2012 02:37 AM

This is the sickest car ever!!!!!

2SSJIM 03-07-2012 02:47 AM

Now that was an interesting bit of info!

hrpiii 03-07-2012 06:28 AM

My camaro was purchased at Bill Estes Chevy, grandson of Pete Estes, so I have "generationed-in" my rare camaro. :D

IronToss 03-07-2012 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amenti (Post 4601672)
That is a pretty spectacular piece of automotive history.

This.... :thumbsup:

909Camaro! 03-07-2012 07:26 AM

very interesting!!!

sasquash1984 03-07-2012 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad@ssCamaro (Post 4601703)
If you're speaking of the Barrett-Jackson Auction, I believe that ZL1 was Carbon Flash, the only one to be produced in that color. :)

Yes :facepalm:

MLL67RSSS 03-07-2012 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hrpiii (Post 4602054)
My camaro was purchased at Bill Estes Chevy, grandson of Pete Estes, so I have "generationed-in" my rare camaro. :D

Hank, JFTR Bill was Pete's son, not grandson.

ParisTNDude 03-07-2012 01:34 PM

Very cool stuff! Makes me drool over what I might have bought at the time had I known. I bought a 66 Chevell SS and 2 years later a Dodge Charger 440 R/T. Wish I had both back now.

hightower 03-07-2012 01:42 PM

Awesome!!! I want it! :D

DwRed1LTV6 03-07-2012 02:28 PM

Nice to see a pic of it...
and to know its still around !

usa1camaro1969 03-07-2012 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLU BY U (Post 4601055)
[/B]
Something does not seem right, because the Z/28 came out in 1967, I believe they were 602 built.....

They never stated the Z/28 didn't come out in '67. Read it again:

http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifSo how did this car come to be built at all? http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifAccording to Jim Mattison, who worked in the http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifspecial projects division at the time, they needed approval to build the Z/28 for the general http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifpublic instead of trying to build just enough to homologate for SCCA racing. They figured that if http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifPete Estes, http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifthe Chevrolet General manager, drove a Z/28 he would like it enough to approve the plan.

In '67 numbers were low because they didn't have the backing required to make it available to the general public.

midnighter 03-07-2012 08:27 PM

I love that Camaro.

xx_ED_xx 03-08-2012 08:35 PM

Seen your car on Ft hood :)

BLU BY U 03-09-2012 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usa1camaro1969 (Post 4607200)
They never stated the Z/28 didn't come out in '67. Read it again:

http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifSo how did this car come to be built at all? http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifAccording to Jim Mattison, who worked in the http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifspecial projects division at the time, they needed approval to build the Z/28 for the general http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifpublic instead of trying to build just enough to homologate for SCCA racing. They figured that if http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifPete Estes, http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/images/dot_clear.gifthe Chevrolet General manager, drove a Z/28 he would like it enough to approve the plan.

In '67 numbers were low because they didn't have the backing required to make it available to the general public.

I never stated, that they didn't state it came out in '67. Read it again: I was just saying they were some in '67, and some did make it into the public's hand (lucky son-of-a-guns). Imo, they would have found some way around Pete to build them. However it unfolded, We Came Out The Winner's.:thumbsup:

schoen311 03-13-2012 02:41 PM

Does anyone know where to find production breakdowns for the 5th generation cars? Been looking all over for them.

Thanks-

:) Tammny


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