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LOWDOWN 03-15-2012 08:50 AM

Could 2013 be the Year of the ZEE?
 
Ford has officially released 2013 pricing for Mustang:

BOSS = $42,200...as a comparison, 2012 Camaro 1SS + $10K = "1LE" @ $42-ish

BOSS LS + $6,995 = $49,195...as a comparison, "1LE" + LS7 = ZEE @ high-$40s

A "2SS"-type option (Leather etc.) as an available upgrade, along with Sunroof 'n such...

Would there be any takers for these Camaros? Poll attached...

EDIT:

For those unaware, here is the current version of the "1LE" proposal from GM intro'd @ SEMA '11. This version is believed to be "buildable"...when is the remaining question...

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200804

As per the poll, the ZEE (Z/28 for recent arrivals) is a "1LE" + LS7...and + $7,000.

PYROLYSIS 03-15-2012 08:57 AM

I thought the boss was only going to be built for 2 years. Is 2013 the second year or the third, can't remember? $54,000 for the GT500? That's pretty cheap, now to see how it performs. It might be cheap for a reason. :)

PYROLYSIS 03-15-2012 08:58 AM

Oh, and I would definitely buy a 1LE.

BoostedX2 03-15-2012 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN (Post 4648023)
Ford has officially released 2013 pricing for Mustang:

BOSS = $42,200...as a comparison, 2012 Camaro 1SS + $10K = "1LE"?

BOSS LS + $6,995 = $49,195...as a comparison, "1LE" + LS7 = ZEE?

A "2SS"-type option (Leather etc.) as an available upgrade, along with Sunroof 'n such...

Would there be any takers for these Camaros? Poll attached...

BTW, GT 500 (650 hp), Base = $54,400...2012 ZL1 money...
........SVT Perf. Pkg = $3,495 EXTRA


Is there not an additional trak pak option also?

radz28 03-15-2012 01:15 PM

I thought the Track Pack was not totally clear or annouced or something... Regardless...

I voted for Z28 but am not quite sure we're going to see anything. They just finished the other "Z"-car, but I liked that 1LE Concept!!! I really hope they bring something back :D

BoostedX2 03-15-2012 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radz28 (Post 4649806)
I thought the Track Pack was not totally clear or annouced or something... Regardless...

I voted for Z28 but am not quite sure we're going to see anything. They just finished the other "Z"-car, but I liked that 1LE Concept!!! I really hope they bring something back :D


According to the Ford.com, the track pack is an additional option if you get the SVT performance pak, so it would seem the total price would be north of 60K...

tooslow 03-15-2012 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 4650034)
According to the Ford.com, the track pack is an additional option if you get the SVT performance pak, so it would seem the total price would be north of 60K...

Exactly how much do you think the additional coolers are going to cost? I doubt enough to push the base with destination and SVT pack above $60K. Close maybe.

GoldenBear 03-15-2012 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 4650034)
According to the Ford.com, the track pack is an additional option if you get the SVT performance pak, so it would seem the total price would be north of 60K...

According to the Ford website, the 2013 GT500 is $58,490 with the SVT Performance Pack. Therefore, if the Track Pack is $1,510 or more, the 2013 GT500 MSRP with the Performance Pack and Track Pack, without any other options, will be at least $60,000.

LOWDOWN 03-15-2012 03:10 PM

...plu$ the Recaro$...

BoostedX2 03-15-2012 03:37 PM

You won't be able to get a GT500 around here for less than 70K--they are all ordered loaded except for maybe the glass roof, and ALL have at least a 5K ADM--which is guaranteed due to the HP ratings and 200 MPH capability. Just my prediction. And then there's tax!

tooslow 03-15-2012 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 4650803)
You won't be able to get a GT500 around here for less than 70K--they are all ordered loaded except for maybe the glass roof, and ALL have at least a 5K ADM--which is guaranteed due to the HP ratings and 200 MPH capability. Just my prediction. And then there's tax!

How did you come to the conclusion they are all ordered? Are all the ZL1's ordered? Last I checked, I can order a ZL1 or a GT500 exactly the way I want it. I just need to find a dealer with an allocation.

You think Chevy dealers who are ordering ZL1's for their showrooms at not customers didn't load those cars up, too? :iono:

BoostedX2 03-15-2012 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooslow (Post 4650887)
How dI'd you come to the conclusion they are all ordered? Are all the ZL1's ordered? Last I checked, I can order a ZL1 or a GT500 exactly the way I want it. I just need to find a dealer with an allocation.

You think Chevy dealers who are ordering ZL1's for their showrooms at not customers didn't load those cars up, too? :iono:

They are resistant to letting someone order around here I guess because they have limited allocation and want to maximize profit on each vehicle. May not be true everywhere...

2cnd chance 03-15-2012 03:58 PM

STOP!!!

This is a Thread about the Z28 and 1LE not the Stang. Thank you.

LOWDOWN 03-15-2012 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 4650803)
You won't be able to get a GT500 around here for less than 70K--they are all ordered loaded except for maybe the glass roof, and ALL have at least a 5K ADM--which is guaranteed due to the HP ratings and 200 MPH capability. Just my prediction. And then there's tax!

Thank you for that local update...but we REALLY want to buy a CAMARO...don't we? :thumbsup:

Gramps69Z 03-15-2012 04:08 PM

Can we keep the GT500 and ZL1 pissing contest from the Z/28 threads?
..........PLEASE!.........

tooslow 03-15-2012 04:51 PM

Blame the moderator! Radz started it!:laugh:

GoldenBear 03-15-2012 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance (Post 4650974)
STOP!!!

This is a Thread about the Z28 and 1LE not the Stang. Thank you.

Yes, please. There is already far too much GT500 prattle in the ZL1 section by Ford interlopers.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Gramps69Z (Post 4651055)
Can we keep the GT500 and ZL1 pissing contest from the Z/28 threads?
..........PLEASE!.........

Let's keep the GT500 prattle out of the ZL1 section as well.

ShnOmac 03-15-2012 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenBear (Post 4651504)


Let's keep the GT500 prattle out of the ZL1 section as well.

I really wish we could......

2cnd chance 03-15-2012 07:36 PM

Let's start a thread comparing the ZL1 to anything other than the Mustang...and see how long it takes to.......

ShnOmac 03-15-2012 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance (Post 4652037)
Let's start a thread comparing the ZL1 to anything other than the Mustang...and see how long it takes to.......

:laugh: I give it 5 minutes...

2cnd chance 03-15-2012 08:59 PM

That's 3 minutes more than I'd thought you'd give it.

Overflow 03-16-2012 08:10 AM

If another Camaro gets brought out in 2013, I bet it'll be the 1LE.

radz28 03-16-2012 09:02 AM

Sorry... :( I think there is some merit, but also think and believe CAMARO is either starting a new segment, or establishing permanent major changes in it. Super-high technology at a reasonable price that can be driven every day. That's what CAMARO's always been about, and while I believe we should directly compete with CAMARO's direct competitor, I don't think we should limit our scope of competition either. I don't know if this is the generation to do it. I DO think we should, though (that may sound like a contradiction, but I can't go into detail because I don't have enough time). I think we should have as many options as reasonable (GM has to make money ;)). We have at least a few years to the end of this model, and I believe most of the parts for Z' are already in the bins, and it's a matter of finding a good combination. From what I understand of the other Z'-car, maybe GM could get a little more aggressive with the chassis (i.e. springs among other things) and tune it more toward the track and less GT-car-like.

All I know is I definately support the idea of at least Z28 returning and would absolutely LOVE to see 1LE return, too; maybe - we could get a 1LE option on a Z28 model :D

LOWDOWN 03-16-2012 10:08 AM

Rad...the endless possibilities and directions one could take this single post of yours (and the few points you raise) has me reaching for the Tylenol... :facepalm: :D

Let's see what this latest (of endless!) poll presents...and then we can write our individual theses (plural of thesis). After all, it's getting very close to Finals time...for College...and b-ball...and Gen-5...and that Doctorate of ZEEology we all so dearly desire... ;)

2cnd chance 03-16-2012 10:18 AM

If anything it should be a 1LE with an upgrade to a Z28. Think Grand Sport and Z06.


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