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RECOUPED 04-01-2012 07:50 PM

1LE Horsepower
 
I Love what Chevy has done with the new Camaro, I've been waiting for the Z/28

I don't see the point to the 1LE, especially if there is no horsepower increase after going to electric power steering. How does that happen?

Milk 1027 04-01-2012 07:51 PM

no one said there wouldn't be a horespower increase. We still haven't seen the actual stats

ShnOmac 04-01-2012 07:53 PM

No need for a HP bump if you think you can match/beat the competition without it!

Apex Motorsports 04-01-2012 07:57 PM

The LS3 is SAE certified at 426 hp but there is a long tradition of not completely showing your hand in the muscle car wars. With the suspension and gearing improvements alone it will feel like a significantly faster car. The swap from 3.45 gears in the SS to 3.91 will give an equivalent torque gain somewhere in the neighborhood of 15% or 60 lb-ft. That is going to make a big difference.

Milk 1027 04-01-2012 07:59 PM

I'm thinking it'll be closer to the Corvette's 436 with the small upgrades.

2cnd chance 04-01-2012 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShnOmac (Post 4740212)
No need for a HP bump if you think you can match/beat the competition without it!

Personally I find there's almost always a need for an HP bump. :D

2cnd chance 04-01-2012 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RECOUPED (Post 4740200)
I Love what Chevy has done with the new Camaro, I've been waiting for the Z/28

I don't see the point to the 1LE, especially if there is no horsepower increase after going to electric power steering. How does that happen?



RWHP should show an increase.

PYROLYSIS 04-01-2012 08:39 PM

The specs shown show no increase so far. I would also think the active exhaust should bump the HP a little bit. Maybe they don't want to change the numbers so they can under rate it a little bit.

Milk 1027 04-01-2012 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS (Post 4740388)
The specs shown show no increase so far. I would also think the active exhaust should bump the HP a little bit. Maybe they don't want to change the numbers so they can under rate it a little bit.

I'm sure it still needs to be re-validated. We just have to wait and see if it does.

ShnOmac 04-01-2012 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance (Post 4740363)
Personally I find there's almost always a need for an HP bump. :D

I agree..... :laugh:

2cnd chance 04-01-2012 09:48 PM

I knew you would. :drinking:

OldScoolCamaro 04-01-2012 10:00 PM

Well, they certified the 6 cylinder engine from one MY to another and showed a increase in HP, with no actual change to the motor. Advertising, a short cut.., perhaps. This potentialy could be done with the addition of the electric power steering and the dual mode exhaust. A claim in LS3 HP increase could be made, with no real substance to it. If one compares the Boss to the 1LE performance wise on the track, and it very well may hold it's ground as it was stated with the existing output of the LS3 with the suspension improvements, I am of the school of thought that overwhelming HP superiority in conjunction with suspension improvements make it more likely one will prevail by a margin over and above making it competitive. The 1LE is a nice step forward, but I trust the engine room is making plans for full speed ahead.

RLHMARINES 04-02-2012 02:33 PM

It could be that with the upgrades to the drive train on 1LE, the Camaro team could have just relaxed some of or even all of the torque management restriction's that comes on the LS3/L99 in the SS models. If I remember correctly, a LS3 crate engine is rated at 485 hp @flywheel thru GMPP. This maybe due to no accessories installed on the crate LS3 but I'm not sure. Besides, GM is not going to tip their hands fully at this time on future production models to ford or whoever the target market is. Like the Fbodfather said, they did not plan to release this info as early as it leaked to us the public, which is good for us but is bad for a competitive edge in this day and era of one-upmanship.

GEEo 04-02-2012 02:35 PM

I'm hopping to see upwards off 450hp.

The Boss has 440hp and a much much lighter car. for the 1LE to compete GM should bump up the power and drop some weight. just like what ford did to the Boss.

Power Seats, Nav, Premium Sound, etc... are just unnecessary if GM wants the 1LE to perform at the track. without all those things thats about a 15-20lbs of the car already.

I personally think that GM should make the 1LE as light as possible. the 1LE should be something like the GT3 RS a stripped down street legal race car.


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