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Cyberfan 05-06-2009 03:10 PM

6 speed shifter on new cars
 
For those of you who have a car already with a 6 speed, I assume that it is the stock shifter and not the Hurst, which was on constraint. How do you like it? Do you think you will keep the original shifter or get a Hurst installed when it becomes available? When I sat in the V6 Camaro at the Atlanta Auto Show, the gears felt good shifting, with throws about as short as the Hurst in my 02 Firebird, but of course the car wasn't moving.

A.J. 05-06-2009 06:17 PM

Yep, stock. :burnrubber:

Dentyneice 05-06-2009 07:05 PM

Hurst shifter because I don't like the leather shifter with leather boot look and feel. I'd rather have that sexy pool ball shifter.:D

LosXC451 05-06-2009 07:06 PM

me too

Number 3 05-06-2009 07:29 PM

No complaints on stock. Keep in mind, transmission in V6 is different than in the V8.

V6 transmission is Aisin.

V8 transmission is Tremec (Corvette).

I haven't experienced the difference a Short Throw Shifter makes, though. But I have no complaints on the V6 or V8 shift feel or throw.

Nine Ball 05-06-2009 09:06 PM

The SS that I drag tested had the non-Hurst. It shifted very nicely, mostly due to the tighter throws found in the TR6060 transmission. I didn't see the need for an aftermarket shifter in that car. The flattened softball sized knob was a little weird though.

Gary B 05-06-2009 09:25 PM

5 responses and it seems only 2 of you actually own or have driven a stock shifter to give an educated answer. He wanted feedback, not "thoughts".

kdbolt70 05-06-2009 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary B (Post 464467)
5 responses and it seems only 2 of you actually own or have driven a stock shifter to give an educated answer. He wanted feedback, not "thoughts".

Wow, relax a little bit. They were just trying to help.

I like my shifter quite a bit. If it was much shorter I'd be worried about missing shifts. But I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to manual transmissions in cars. I can still run through the gears pretty quickly. I think I'll be sticking with the stock throw.

Cyberfan 05-07-2009 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number 3 (Post 464010)
No complaints on stock. Keep in mind, transmission in V6 is different than in the V8.

V6 transmission is Aisin.

V8 transmission is Tremec (Corvette).

I haven't experienced the difference a Short Throw Shifter makes, though. But I have no complaints on the V6 or V8 shift feel or throw.

Number 3: Since you have one of each, is there much difference between the feel of shifting between the 2? I know the transmissions are different, but don't know about the shifters- do they feel about the same? If the SS trans and shifter are the same as in my 08 Z-06, I can say I have NO complants about that shifter.

Since I won't be drag racing mine (and if I wanted to I would probably opt for the automatic), my gut is that there is no reason to go to the trouble and expense of replacing the stock shifter if it's already pretty good. Just wondering if anybody doesn't like the feel or if the throw is too long. I guess replacing the shift ball could be done without doing the whole shifter if somebody just doesn't like the ball.

toehead93 05-07-2009 03:00 PM

[QUOTE=Cyberfan;463049]For those of you who have a car already with a 6 speedQUOTE]

Everybody with a 2010 Camaro has a 6-speed ;)

Embalmer 05-07-2009 03:23 PM

I like the stock shifter however, the HURST will be much shorter of a throw....

I have noticed some "minor" hiccups with shifting when I am driving fast, like NOT going into gear correctly...

I've noticed it on gears 3 and 5 so far.... Not quite sure what the deal is... Clutch all the way in... right speed, etc, and just doesn't want to get in gear....

I will probably get a hurst when it becomes available from the dealers.....

Davis 05-07-2009 07:29 PM

Noodle
 
Personally, I hate the stock shifter. It's long and sloppy IMO.
I am going to install the hurst, but I want to keep the stock boot and knob..I like them both.

Cyberfan 05-08-2009 10:02 AM

[QUOTE=toehead93;466409]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyberfan (Post 463049)
For those of you who have a car already with a 6 speedQUOTE]

Everybody with a 2010 Camaro has a 6-speed ;)

What does this mean? I saw a black Camaro at a dealer the other day with an automatic.

Ydtrack 05-08-2009 10:24 AM

[QUOTE=Cyberfan;468883]
Quote:

Originally Posted by toehead93 (Post 466409)

What does this mean? I saw a black Camaro at a dealer the other day with an automatic.

It was a joke......even the automatics are 6-speed......:wave:

theholycow 05-08-2009 11:50 AM

Not just a joke, but a good point..."6 speed" is a worthless way to describe it, since they're all 6 speed transmissions. Just call it "manual".

WICKEDSS 10-01-2009 02:09 PM

I just hate the knob just doesnt feel right!!!..other than that ya its smooth

Wild Bill 10-01-2009 02:32 PM

I ordered the Hurst. Haven't gotten it yet for comparison, but I find the stock throws to be very long compared to my stock 2007 Vette throws (no longer own the Vette). I kinda like the stock shifter knob, but I ordered a chrome Ball knob.

BeckyD@RodgersChevrolet 10-01-2009 02:39 PM

I have the 6speed manual SS and I'll keep it factory. Knob feels just fine, good size for me. Shift throws OK, but I'm not a rev and dump driver. Nice, smooth and comfortable.

jpsuperman81 10-01-2009 02:43 PM

If you try the hurst(aftermarket version that is currently out) then you will immediately want one in your car. Stock shifter isn't terrible but it isn't great either. I had hurst installed last week and will never look back. I absolutely love it. If your thinking aobut a hurst don't wait for the GM version is more expensive more than likely and not as short of a throw. I had about 2000 miles on the stock one if you were curious.

POWERFREAK 10-01-2009 02:44 PM

I don't mind the stock shifter...as far as a stock shifter goes, It's not bad. I've never missed a gear. That said, I'll be ordering either a MGW or a HURST at some point...because I'm sure it'll be better than stock.

2SSRS@Gen5diy 10-01-2009 02:46 PM

All i can tell you is if you like the OEM you will love the hurst, And if you want to run the factory Knob on your hurst you can its up to you, Now i like the T-Handel the most.

slacker 10-01-2009 06:07 PM

I had the stock shifter and installed the new Hurst billet- I love it. The feel of the shifter is much better. I don't drag race or anything, but it also adds that old school look which I love. I've had a lot of positive comments on it.

Like anything though, it's personal choice- it is louder, but not in a way that is annoying.

Kratos 10-03-2009 04:40 PM

I haven't driven the Camaro yet, but from the many different manual cars I've driven that had stock regular shifters compared to the stock short throw shifter that was on my 350Z...the short throw feels much better. It's much more notchy which I like because you know exactly what gear you're going into and there is definitely a noticeable resistance when pushing the shifter into a gear. All in all I think short throw shifters have a much more mechanical feel to them allowing the driving to sort of "be one with the car". I hope when my Camaro gets here the stock shifter isn't too sloppy or else I'll have to change it.


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