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01pewterz28 06-03-2012 09:56 PM

ZL1 brake pads WARNING keep an eye out >>>
 
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I was over at my friends shop today he showed me his brake pads this is what they looked like after 1500 break in miles this included a 800+ mile road trip from Orlando to Atlanta over Memorial Day weekend doing speends no more than 80 miles an hour and no heavy breaking you can see chunks of the edges of the pads are missing.

OldJedi 06-03-2012 11:34 PM

Thanks for the info, I will take a better look at mine. I am at 975 miles into the break-in and trying to keep it under the 80mph/4000RPM max. But I am noticing quite a lot of brake dust. Just a simple 25 mile cruise without any hard braking at all is leaving quite the noticeable amount of dust in the wheels. Is anybody else seeing this on their ZL1's?

DangerZL1 06-03-2012 11:36 PM

Yes, mine look like they are covered in soot. I guess the high performance pads dust more.

01pewterz28 06-03-2012 11:37 PM

The bad part is that chunks are breaking off on 2 of the 4 pads

BAD ZL1 06-03-2012 11:57 PM

Is anyone doing that Brake Burnish procedure the owners manual says you should do? I would like to know before I get my car, do I seriously need to do that procedure? Hell, my drive home alone will be 250miles on the freeway, no time to burnish the brakes on the freeway.

DangerZL1 06-04-2012 01:15 AM

One person reported doing the procedure, but I can't see it unless you're going to track the car. I've never seen chunks of brake pad come off.

01pewterz28 06-04-2012 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DangerouSS (Post 5067032)
One person reported doing the procedure, but I can't see it unless you're going to track the car. I've never seen chunks of rake pad come off.

Yea odd as it was a trip from Orlando to Daytona and back to get new wheels installed and then from Orlando to Atlanta and back for the Fbody Gathering for memorial day weekend easy 1500 mile break in period no abuse.

gm_joe 06-04-2012 11:01 AM

Just a couple miles of driving after washing the car, I have brake dust on the wheels and on the rear bumper. My car is yellow, so it is easy to see. But just do a "dust test" with your finger and you will see it.

kbar4782 06-04-2012 11:14 AM

I see a lot of dust on mine as well. Just normal driving around town etc. I thought you weren't supposed to break in the pads until after the 1500 mile break in?

BeachBum 06-04-2012 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by gm_joe (Post 5068444)
Just a couple miles of driving after washing the car, I have brake dust on the wheels and on the rear bumper. My car is yellow, so it is easy to see. But just do a "dust test" with your finger and you will see it.

gm_joe - I'm seeing the dust too - Are you too thinking of changing pads to something that does not dust as bad? - Your right, sure shows on the Yellow after just a few miles of easy driving

BlackedOutZL1 06-04-2012 01:28 PM

high performance means dust. You cannot avoid this if you want the performance. Like do you expect 30mpg AND 580 hp? Of course not.

And those chucks (itty bitty corner actually) out of the pad is nothing to be alarmed about either. That stuff happens on my race car pads too. As a matter of fact sometimes worst. It is perfectly normal.

shockandawe 06-04-2012 02:51 PM

They should have a ceramic brake pad option when ordering the car.

Happy_Dan 06-04-2012 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by shockandawe (Post 5070047)
They should have a ceramic brake pad option when ordering the car.

Sure, and they should have a 13 inch rotor and 17 inch wheel option too. We asked them to give us a track ready car. They did!

I'll live with the dust. It is much like my Carbotech pads when I set up my Z06 for track days. Just knew I would be cleaning up after. Not to mention all the rubber marks from marbles, etc.

Rudolph Rick 06-06-2012 04:57 PM

The stock ZL1 brake pads are designed for maximum brake performance. The break in procedure for the pads will extend pad life if done properly. However, these pads will not last as long a normal pads and will create more dust.

Zl11952 06-06-2012 05:04 PM

My #1478 shipping is going slow. I have a separate response oaout brake dust. I also have a Red Challenger SRT8 and an auto tech friend said to disengage the ESP program. There is a button on the dash to push. This reduced my brake dust 80%. The cars with high horsepower have a tendency to constantly engage the traction control. I drive like an old lady also and still was getting extreme dust. Wheels were totally black after 100 miles. I cannot recommend due to safety issues but thought I would post info.

OldJedi 06-06-2012 05:38 PM

I did the brake burnishing at about 500 miles. 1 - 40 to 20, 1 - 60 to 20 and 1 - 80 to 10 back to back. And then drove home and let the brakes sit all night. The brake dust was tremendous the next day when I checked the wheels. I have not really noticed any difference in the braking but I have not had to really brake very hard since.

BeachBum 06-06-2012 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by OldJedi (Post 5083995)
I did the brake burnishing at about 500 miles. 1 - 40 to 20, 1 - 60 to 20 and 1 - 80 to 10 back to back. And then drove home and let the brakes sit all night. The brake dust was tremendous the next day when I checked the wheels. I have not really noticed any difference in the braking but I have not had to really brake very hard since.

I Haven't Done The Brake Burnishing Yet - Was Told If I wanted To Really See Dust - Do The 8-to 20 to 10 With The Emergency Brake On

sammyv 06-06-2012 05:54 PM

Burnishing and bedding are two differant things.

BeachBum 06-06-2012 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sammyv (Post 5084117)
Burnishing and bedding are two differant things.

Now You Tell Me !!!!

noxqq 06-06-2012 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyv (Post 5084117)
Burnishing and bedding are two differant things.

OK?? :iono:

BeachBum 06-06-2012 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sammyv (Post 5084117)
Burnishing and bedding are two differant things.

"OK" I Ran Her Up To 80 And Slammed On The Brakes. That Really Heated Her Up. Then I crawled In Her Back Seat An Spent The Night As I Could Not Stand To Let Her Out Of My Sight. Did I Do It Right?

joes407 06-06-2012 10:01 PM

maybe it was 1 of the speed runs that had been texted around ;)

joes407 06-06-2012 10:03 PM

you guys be at the shop this saturday? id love to get mine up on the lift and see your friends one more time before it goes west

01pewterz28 06-06-2012 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by joes407 (Post 5085460)
you guys be at the shop this saturday? id love to get mine up on the lift and see your friends one more time before it goes west

Not this weekend Phil is working then heading to TX for a date with Hennessey the follwing weekend.

Hey did you get your spoiler and truck lid taken care of? If so any news on your old spoiler?

sammyv 06-06-2012 10:16 PM

Burnishing is what you want to do to carbon ceramic brakes like I had on the ZR1. You brake 60 to 0 fifty times in a row to actually change the make up of the rotor with the heat. Bedding the brakes on the camaro is moderate braking 60 to 20 mph maybe 10 times in a row(at a minimun) just to transfer some pad material to the rotor, then drive without braking until they cool. Tire Rack has an exellant write up on their website on how to do the entire procedure..


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