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KJS 05-24-2009 04:43 PM

Camaro "Gremlins" thread
 
The car is great, its everything and more than I was expecting. But, in the 5 days and 550 miles since I picked it up from the dealer I've had the following "gremlins" (not the AMC ones) creep up.

The trunk lid occasionally refuses to open. When using the inside trunk release (on the drivers side door) and both the remotes, it just makes a clicking noise for as long as you hold the open buttons down. Had to pull down the back seat, crawl into the trunk, pull the emergency trunk release lever and push up the trunk lid to get it opened. Almost happened again today, but after several times pushing the trunk release on the remote it opened. Tried it about 20 more times, no problem. Sprayed a bit of silcone spray on the lock/catch mechanism. (BTW there is no "key entry" for the trunk, only electromechanical). Will keep an eye on it and report back to you and if necessary the dealer (but have a feeling its one of those things where it will never happen at the dealer).

Yesterday after washing it, I opened both drivers side and passenger windows and then tried closing them. Drivers side kept going up half way and then cycling back down. Tried it several times, same thing. Checked so see if there was something blocking its travel in the tracks, nothing. Tried it again, same thing. Tried to push down on the window as it was going up to see if it was perhaps an overly sensitive safety feature and it went right up. No problem on the passenger side. NOTE: If there is safety feature to stop the window from going all the way up if there is resistance it doesn't work. Almost took my hand off!.

Yes I realize its new and a new model and there will be things like this and others that will come up. Thought I'd put this out there to see if others are having other "growing pains" with their cars.

MerF 05-24-2009 04:45 PM

Good stuff!

On the trunk thing, I wonder if there are adjusters on the trunk like on a hood...you move them up or down to get the right pressure against the lid so it's not loose, but not so tight the latch doesn't work freely.

Can you check that and get back to us?

Iwantone2 05-24-2009 04:45 PM

sorry to hear about the issues, are you gonna take it back to the dealer to see what the dilly?

any others have the same issue?

Miketebo22 05-24-2009 04:46 PM

hmm...good information to have. I will test this stuff out when i get my car in and report back!

Tactical Z 05-24-2009 04:46 PM

Hate to say this but...I'd never buy a Camaro when it first comes it..too many problems wrong..I'd wait a year.

MerF 05-24-2009 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tactical Z (Post 515294)
Hate to say this but...I'd never buy a Camaro when it first comes it..too many problems wrong..I'd wait a year.

Wow. I'll keep that in mind the next time this year's car is first built. :iono:



:facepalm:

KJS 05-24-2009 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MerF (Post 515289)
Good stuff!

On the trunk thing, I wonder if there are adjusters on the trunk like on a hood...you move them up or down to get the right pressure against the lid so it's not loose, but not so tight the latch doesn't work freely.

Can you check that and get back to us?

No "adjusters" like on the hood. There are these spring loaded devices on each side of the trunk lid protruding down (see pix) that are pretty strong and cannot be adusted for tension.

KJS 05-24-2009 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Iwantone2 (Post 515290)
sorry to hear about the issues, are you gonna take it back to the dealer to see what the dilly?

any others have the same issue?

I'll keep an eye on these two items and see if they re-appear. Hopefully just "one of those" freak occurances, if not, its off to the dealer.

MerF 05-24-2009 04:57 PM

Interesting that those are not adjustable, but thanks for the feedback!

Tecca 05-24-2009 05:00 PM

So far my only problem is either my fuel sensor is bad, the fuel gauge is bad or just a loose connector somewhere. Have an appointment Tuesday 7am to see what the problem is. Nothing major that can't be fixed!!!

chevyridinghigh 05-24-2009 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KJS (Post 515284)
The car is great, its everything and more than I was expecting. But, in the 5 days and 550 miles since I picked it up from the dealer I've had the following "gremlins" (not the AMC ones) creep up.

The trunk lid occasionally refuses to open. When using the inside trunk release (on the drivers side door) and both the remotes, it just makes a clicking noise for as long as you hold the open buttons down. Had to pull down the back seat, crawl into the trunk, pull the emergency trunk release lever and push up the trunk lid to get it opened. Almost happened again today, but after several times pushing the trunk release on the remote it opened. Tried it about 20 more times, no problem. Sprayed a bit of silcone spray on the lock/catch mechanism. (BTW there is no "key entry" for the trunk, only electromechanical). Will keep an eye on it and report back to you and if necessary the dealer (but have a feeling its one of those things where it will never happen at the dealer).

Yesterday after washing it, I opened both drivers side and passenger windows and then tried closing them. Drivers side kept going up half way and then cycling back down. Tried it several times, same thing. Checked so see if there was something blocking its travel in the tracks, nothing. Tried it again, same thing. Tried to push down on the window as it was going up to see if it was perhaps an overly sensitive safety feature and it went right up. No problem on the passenger side. NOTE: If there is safety feature to stop the window from going all the way up if there is resistance it doesn't work. Almost took my hand off!.

Yes I realize its new and a new model and there will be things like this and others that will come up. Thought I'd put this out there to see if others are having other "growing pains" with their cars.

Considering the window and trunk are both electrical issues, I would bring it to the dealer immediately. Little stuff happens on a first year model, BUT, those are generic appliances... all chevys have windows and trunks.. that should not happen.

Epitaph 05-24-2009 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MerF (Post 515311)
Wow. I'll keep that in mind the next time this year's car is first built. :iono:



:facepalm:

How about every1 in the world does that forever...:facepalm:

Vash 05-24-2009 05:10 PM

The window should be able to be fixed by computer. I think there was a similar GM TSB going around. Don't remember the car.

The rear latch thing probably needs a heavy gear grease not a spray. Check if the mounting is adjustable on either side. They will fix these for you.

Xmicro_SS 05-24-2009 05:19 PM

These are small things that I would simply bring to the dealer. All cars have little issues. My Honda CR-V had a Window issue, and a Seat thing that needed adjusting. Every car I have ever bought new (about 15 so far) has had small issues. I brought them in and never had them again. I am willing to bet, this is an isolated set of issues.

WILHELM 05-24-2009 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tactical Z (Post 515294)
Hate to say this but...I'd never buy a Camaro when it first comes it..too many problems wrong..I'd wait a year.

If you ask me this apply to all cars. The first year after many model has been redesigned is a must wait to avoid problems and to let the manufacturer fix problems like the ones posted by the OP. 2011 Camaro for the win. Hopefully bug free.

Xmicro_SS 05-24-2009 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by WILHELM (Post 515397)
If you ask me this apply to all cars. The first year after many model has been redesigned is a must wait to avoid problems and to let the manufacturer fix problems like the ones posted by the OP. 2011 Camaro for the win. Hopefully bug free.

This is not always the best way to go. You can look this up for yourself. The Sky had MORE problems second model year, because they changed things. The 07 had fewer issues than the 08. The 08 actually had a bad brake pump that was FAILING and causing brake lose. :confused0068:

2Muchmark 05-24-2009 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tactical Z (Post 515294)
Hate to say this but...I'd never buy a Camaro when it first comes it..too many problems wrong..I'd wait a year.


Unfortunately you're right. I am HATING my camaro purchase experience. I plopped down $20k 4 months ago and have received Sweet A all from everyone at GM and the dealer about my car.

Now what? Cables are melting? Brakes need weights to be balanced? Window indexing issues? Leaking trunks?

I know we're all Camaro entusiasts here but my THRILL at grabbing this puppy has long gone. I'll be test driving this week (Mustangs, Chargers, 300z's, and 1-2 others and if I find a car that fits me, I'm buying it and driving it to my dealer and demanding my money back. (Let me know if anyone wants pics)

Xmicro_SS 05-24-2009 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Muchmark (Post 515417)
Unfortunately you're right. I am HATING my camaro purchase experience. I plopped down $20k 4 months ago and have received Sweet A all from everyone at GM and the dealer about my car.

Now what? Cables are melting? Brakes need weights to be balanced? Window indexing issues? Leaking trunks?

I know we're all Camaro entusiasts here but my THRILL at grabbing this puppy has long gone. I'll be test driving this week (Mustangs, Chargers, 300z's, and 1-2 others and if I find a car that fits me, I'm buying it and driving it to my dealer and demanding my money back. (Let me know if anyone wants pics)

Are you serious, these are not deal breakers. And you are acting like the other cars will be problem free, try going to other forums. ALL CARS HAVE ISSUES.

If it was not for the forums you would get your car in ignorant bliss.......learn to filter what you read, do not sweat it!

BLUEMARO 05-24-2009 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Muchmark (Post 515417)
Unfortunately you're right. I am HATING my camaro purchase experience. I plopped down $20k 4 months ago and have received Sweet A all from everyone at GM and the dealer about my car.

Now what? Cables are melting? Brakes need weights to be balanced? Window indexing issues? Leaking trunks?

I know we're all Camaro entusiasts here but my THRILL at grabbing this puppy has long gone. I'll be test driving this week (Mustangs, Chargers, 300z's, and 1-2 others and if I find a car that fits me, I'm buying it and driving it to my dealer and demanding my money back. (Let me know if anyone wants pics)

Think of the poor souls who are waiting to get a year old one to save some money :)

KJS 05-24-2009 05:50 PM

Gang - Please don't get me wrong about the Camaro. Its great! If you want it, go for it.
You know that from time to time you'll find glitches in some cars, whether its first model year or the the last. So far considering the fact that there are a only handful of issues and GMs been on top of them this is pretty amazing.

Again, don't take my gremlins as reasons for re-considering your decisions. They aren't biggies, and could as easily have been on a Chally, Mustang, Bently, Lotus, etc.

Epitaph 05-24-2009 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Muchmark (Post 515417)
Unfortunately you're right. I am HATING my camaro purchase experience. I plopped down $20k 4 months ago and have received Sweet A all from everyone at GM and the dealer about my car.

Now what? Cables are melting? Brakes need weights to be balanced? Window indexing issues? Leaking trunks?

I know we're all Camaro entusiasts here but my THRILL at grabbing this puppy has long gone. I'll be test driving this week (Mustangs, Chargers, 300z's, and 1-2 others and if I find a car that fits me, I'm buying it and driving it to my dealer and demanding my money back. (Let me know if anyone wants pics)

Cables - fixed within the first week of something happening
LMAO @ Brakes need Balanced...
Leaking TRUNK - that was a quality control issue were 1 person F'd up
First time I've heard of Window issue

How many problems have you had?

Chief00 05-24-2009 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Muchmark (Post 515417)
Unfortunately you're right. I am HATING my camaro purchase experience. I plopped down $20k 4 months ago and have received Sweet A all from everyone at GM and the dealer about my car.

Now what? Cables are melting? Brakes need weights to be balanced? Window indexing issues? Leaking trunks?

I know we're all Camaro entusiasts here but my THRILL at grabbing this puppy has long gone. I'll be test driving this week (Mustangs, Chargers, 300z's, and 1-2 others and if I find a car that fits me, I'm buying it and driving it to my dealer and demanding my money back. (Let me know if anyone wants pics)


One question, How will you be feeling the first time a 2010 Camaro pulls up next to you at a light?:(

Patience!!

golfer1 05-24-2009 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KJS (Post 515284)
The car is great, its everything and more than I was expecting. But, in the 5 days and 550 miles since I picked it up from the dealer I've had the following "gremlins" (not the AMC ones) creep up.

The trunk lid occasionally refuses to open. When using the inside trunk release (on the drivers side door) and both the remotes, it just makes a clicking noise for as long as you hold the open buttons down. Had to pull down the back seat, crawl into the trunk, pull the emergency trunk release lever and push up the trunk lid to get it opened. Almost happened again today, but after several times pushing the trunk release on the remote it opened. Tried it about 20 more times, no problem. Sprayed a bit of silcone spray on the lock/catch mechanism. (BTW there is no "key entry" for the trunk, only electromechanical). Will keep an eye on it and report back to you and if necessary the dealer (but have a feeling its one of those things where it will never happen at the dealer).

Yesterday after washing it, I opened both drivers side and passenger windows and then tried closing them. Drivers side kept going up half way and then cycling back down. Tried it several times, same thing. Checked so see if there was something blocking its travel in the tracks, nothing. Tried it again, same thing. Tried to push down on the window as it was going up to see if it was perhaps an overly sensitive safety feature and it went right up. No problem on the passenger side. NOTE: If there is safety feature to stop the window from going all the way up if there is resistance it doesn't work. Almost took my hand off!.

Yes I realize its new and a new model and there will be things like this and others that will come up. Thought I'd put this out there to see if others are having other "growing pains" with their cars.


Solution: Gremlin bells

Andro 05-24-2009 08:13 PM

Just take it to the dealer

luckynuts 05-24-2009 08:51 PM

GM's Ass is almost grass and they are counting on this car to be one of their saviors........don't you think they won't go out of their way to make things right if there is an issue? There are bound to be "issues" but I'm guessing (hoping) that they will bend over backwards to make things right.


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