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Nick S 08-13-2012 10:01 PM

ZL1 Wheel Costs
 
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So I'm browsing GM Parts Direct website to see if the ZL1 wheels are listed there yet or not. Well they are and they have prices listed too. The part I find ironic is when you look at the prices of the wheels by themselves the black wheels have a higher list price than the bright aluminum wheels. But when you order a ZL1 the bright aluminum wheel option is an up charge from the standard black wheels. So GM is selling you the optional wheel package for an increased charge even though the wheels themselves appear to cost GM less money. I've attached a screen shot of the online prices shown. The RSK wheels are the black wheels and the RTQ wheels are the aluminum wheels.

khalsa013 08-13-2012 10:13 PM

i was wondering that myself?

mmarx82 08-13-2012 10:29 PM

The black wheels are harder to get, there is a higher demand for them. I had one replaced on my ZL1 today and there was only 2 places across the whole US that even had any.

Darth_Emma 08-13-2012 11:00 PM

Be careful about GM Parts Direct prices. They often show extremely low prices and then when you go to pay for them, the shipping charges are outrageous.

I quit even looking at that site for parts. I just order stuff from MaureenM@RodgersChevrolet now. She quotes me the delivered price. (No this isn't spam and I'm in no way affiliated with Rodger's Chevy. It's just my opinion from my own experience.)

menendez1293 08-13-2012 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth_Emma (Post 5437787)
Be careful about GM Parts Direct prices. They often show extremely low prices and then when you go to pay for them, the shipping charges are outrageous.

I quit even looking at that site for parts. I just order stuff from MaureenM@RodgersChevrolet now. She quotes me the delivered price. (No this isn't spam and I'm in no way affiliated with Rodger's Chevy. It's just my opinion from my own experience.)

:word: I agree 100%. I used gm parts direct before I knew of other places for my transformers things and got charged 50 bucks to ship each order. Lesson learned

Nick S 08-14-2012 11:37 AM

I know the shipping can be a little extreme. But they do show what the dealer list prices are and I was just looking at the comparison of list prices for each style wheel and made the observations noted in my original post. I just found it interesting that GM lists the optional upcharge wheel option as costing less per wheel than the standard wheel.

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Originally Posted by mmarx82 (Post 5437578)
The black wheels are harder to get, there is a higher demand for them. I had one replaced on my ZL1 today and there was only 2 places across the whole US that even had any.

I disagree with your theory on the price differences for this. I'm sure GM set the list prices well before there was any perceived demand for one over the other. If GM adjusted prices of their parts based on demand then you would always see the list prices changing with demand. But I'll bet those list prices stay the same for at least the rest of this year until GM revises their annual published pricing list.

I think the black wheels probably do cost GM more because they have to be put through a painting and painting prep process. The bright aluminum wheels are probably mostly just cast finish with the faces of the spokes smoothed out and then they probably just clear coat the wheels.

I call it Vera 08-14-2012 01:52 PM

So, how do I read this? If I wanted to order a second set of rims, say the bright aluminum, how much would it cost?

01pewterz28 08-14-2012 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by menendez1293 (Post 5437821)
:word: I agree 100%. I used gm parts direct before I knew of other places for my transformers things and got charged 50 bucks to ship each order. Lesson learned

for the hell of it I requested a shipping quote GM Parts direct quoted me $135 each per wheel to ship

Mr.R 08-14-2012 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick S (Post 5439579)
I disagree with your theory on the price differences for this. I'm sure GM set the list prices well before there was any perceived demand for one over the other. If GM adjusted prices of their parts based on demand then you would always see the list prices changing with demand. But I'll bet those list prices stay the same for at least the rest of this year until GM revises their annual published pricing list.

I think the black wheels probably do cost GM more because they have to be put through a painting and painting prep process. The bright aluminum wheels are probably mostly just cast finish with the faces of the spokes smoothed out and then they probably just clear coat the wheels.

The silver wheels are the ONLY exclusive wheels for the ZL1. So you pay more for that. The black ones are shared with the 1LE adn who knows what else - unfortunately. I have the black one and they look awesome. I get many compliments for them. I saw the silver ones and i personally think they're ugly...

ackeight 08-14-2012 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 01pewterz28 (Post 5440427)
for the hell of it I requested a shipping quote GM Parts direct quoted me $135 each per wheel to ship

:confused0068:Are they sending it to you in a lamborgini?

Nick S 08-14-2012 05:07 PM

Compare that to the list price you would pay at a dealer and even with shipping it's still quite a bit cheaper per wheel.

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Originally Posted by I call it Vera (Post 5440234)
So, how do I read this? If I wanted to order a second set of rims, say the bright aluminum, how much would it cost?

You would need to order 2 of each of the RTQ wheels.
Quantity of 2 - 20x10 RTQ's
Quantity of 2 - 20x11 RTQ's

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Originally Posted by 01pewterz28 (Post 5440427)
for the hell of it I requested a shipping quote GM Parts direct quoted me $135 each per wheel to ship

Just curious, did you put a total of 4 wheels on the order and then ask for a shipping quote or did you just put one wheel on the order and ask for a quote? Sometimes the shipping charges don't necessarily double just because you put 2 of the same item on the order.

The Stig 08-14-2012 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick S (Post 5441491)
Compare that to the list price you would pay at a dealer and even with shipping it's still quite a bit cheaper per wheel.

Maureen at Rodgers Chevrolet has free shipping on any/all parts you buy from her.

Just saying.

Nick S 08-14-2012 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.R (Post 5441267)
The silver wheels are the ONLY exclusive wheels for the ZL1. So you pay more for that. The black ones are shared with the 1LE adn who knows what else - unfortunately. I have the black one and they look awesome. I get many compliments for them. I saw the silver ones and i personally think they're ugly...

They are only exclusive to the ZL1 if GM denies people from ordering them through the parts department.

So to me the exclusivity of them is not what you are paying more for. When the black wheels first came out on the 2012 ZL1 they were also exclusive to only the ZL1 for that production year. I think GM is banking on the assumption that more people would choose to upgrade to the bright aluminum for the looks so they could make more money by selling those as the "up charge" option on the car.

Nick S 08-14-2012 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by stieger (Post 5441560)
Maureen at Rodgers Chevrolet has free shipping on any/all parts you buy from her.

Just saying.

Good to know. I'll keep that in mind!

BTW I was never trying to promote GMPD or any reseller. I was only using GMPD because they will show the list price. I just used GMPD as a convenient way to see if the wheels were available anywhere yet and had prices on them. I'm sure there are better deals out there for sources that won't charge so much shipping.

1MtnGoat 08-14-2012 10:04 PM

I have not seen the black wheels up close. A close look at the AL polished wheels shows that all surfaces of the wheel have had some type of machining and or polishing on it. This may make it a bit more costly to produce.

Nick S 08-14-2012 10:13 PM

I did see one ZL1 at a dealership with the bright aluminum wheels but I did not look at them close enough to know if all areas had any machining done on them or not. I know the faces of the spokes looked like they were finished machined but I did not look close enough at the rest of the wheel.

Darth_Emma 08-14-2012 10:32 PM

Send a PM to user tkrupinski and ask him. He bought a set for this SS a couple months ago.

01pewterz28 08-14-2012 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick S (Post 5441491)
Compare that to the list price you would pay at a dealer and even with shipping it's still quite a bit cheaper per wheel.



You would need to order 2 of each of the RTQ wheels.
Quantity of 2 - 20x10 RTQ's
Quantity of 2 - 20x11 RTQ's



Just curious, did you put a total of 4 wheels on the order and then ask for a shipping quote or did you just put one wheel on the order and ask for a quote? Sometimes the shipping charges don't necessarily double just because you put 2 of the same item on the order.

4 wheels on one order total shipping was $540

I call it Vera 08-15-2012 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick S (Post 5441491)
Compare that to the list price you would pay at a dealer and even with shipping it's still quite a bit cheaper per wheel.



You would need to order 2 of each of the RTQ wheels.
Quantity of 2 - 20x10 RTQ's
Quantity of 2 - 20x11 RTQ's



Just curious, did you put a total of 4 wheels on the order and then ask for a shipping quote or did you just put one wheel on the order and ask for a quote? Sometimes the shipping charges don't necessarily double just because you put 2 of the same item on the order.

Cool. That makes sense now. Thanks!

snaphappy 08-15-2012 02:11 AM

the problem is you have to buy tires too, I don't think the wheels are overpriced really, but adding tires gets pricy. maybe when i need tires i'll think about it, but wheels and tires costs $3000-$3500 am i right? but honestly, probably worth it. no other mod could give you more visual appeal

Nick S 08-15-2012 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 01pewterz28 (Post 5443685)
4 wheels on one order total shipping was $540

Wow. That's almost the cost of another wheel. It would also cover the cost of one of the tires! Yikes.
If I ever decide to get these wheels I think I will be looking for an alternate source that will give me a good deal closer to home. I'll drive down to Chicago area to one of the dealers down there that is a sponser on another forum and pick them up. No way would it cost me $540 in gas and tolls!

Thanks for the info.

Hercules 08-15-2012 09:59 AM

I've been a auto mehcanic since the 80's and have learned one thing. When you buy parts for your automobile they never charge list price, so it looks like you're getting a better deal. I think sometimes they just pick a price out of a hat and say that this is the list price and then knock off some so you think you're getting a deal. I personally like to price shop because of that. But so far I haven't found any better than :thumbup: MaureenM@Rodgerschevrolet :thumbup: , fast free shipping and like I said best price. Just keep her in mind if, god forbid, you need to replace something.

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Originally Posted by Nick S (Post 5441607)
Good to know. I'll keep that in mind!

BTW I was never trying to promote GMPD or any reseller. I was only using GMPD because they will show the list price. I just used GMPD as a convenient way to see if the wheels were available anywhere yet and had prices on them. I'm sure there are better deals out there for sources that won't charge so much shipping.


Mr.R 08-15-2012 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick S (Post 5441561)
They are only exclusive to the ZL1 if GM denies people from ordering them through the parts department.

So to me the exclusivity of them is not what you are paying more for. When the black wheels first came out on the 2012 ZL1 they were also exclusive to only the ZL1 for that production year. I think GM is banking on the assumption that more people would choose to upgrade to the bright aluminum for the looks so they could make more money by selling those as the "up charge" option on the car.


Right, But the silver ones have ZL1 engraved on them and the black ones just say Camaro....
It would look stupid to put the silver ones on an SS for example.

Also, the tires are damn expensive - about $2,000 installed for all 4. So new wheels and tires will take you to about $4,500.

I actually bought the wheel/tire warranty package from the dealer for $500 for 5 years I believe.

01pewterz28 08-15-2012 04:09 PM

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Here is a shot of the polished wheels on my Camaro you can see the detail better in this close up shot.

MrDew 08-15-2012 08:10 PM

WEll, anybody know what Rodgerschevrolet charges for those wheels? (Just out of curiosity)


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