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-   -   Everyone keeps wishing for a new Z28? (http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=243995)

Kdogg 08-14-2012 08:17 PM

Everyone keeps wishing for a new Z28?
 
I noticed a lot of people are wishing for the return of the Z28. The ZL1 has 500+ HP and theirs the Panther option that's 600+ HP,what would the Z28 have? How different will it look? How much? Just wondering what you all would think a modern Z28 would be like?

slick rick 08-14-2012 08:19 PM

Start reading this section http://www.camaro5.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=136

SEVEN-OH JOE 08-14-2012 08:23 PM

And this thread:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149090

skipinminn 08-14-2012 08:46 PM

z28 should be the V6 with twinturbo's,425hp and 28mpg :) I'd buy one for sure :)

All the Juice and no seed's! Yehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

JoansDriver 08-14-2012 08:48 PM

A v6 z28? Oh god no.

Kdogg 08-14-2012 09:01 PM

Guess i'am late to the party? My thoughts are that the ZL1 should have carried the Z28 badge. More people know the Z28 name than the ZL1. It should have its own exterior and interior colors and special graffics and wheels.

slick rick 08-14-2012 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kdogg (Post 5442888)
My thoughts are that the ZL1 should have carried the Z28 badge. More people know the Z28 name than the ZL1.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128453
Quote:


[Comment From Ironhead Ironhead: ]
just logged on, am I reading this correctly? ZL1 is what all who have been waiting for the arrival of the Z28 is called ZL1? or will there be another model called Z28

John Fitz - Camaro Marketing Mgr:
Ironhead... We continue to work on evolving Camaro. Regarding Z28, all I can say is stay tuned...

[Comment From Tyler Tyler: ]
Was Z28 ever considered as the name or was it ZL1 from the get go?

John Fitz - Camaro Marketing Mgr:
Tyler... We considered all kinds of names for this beast -- but ZL1 rose to the top as the best fit


cmb74656 08-14-2012 09:10 PM

I'm still waiting for the return of the Berlinetta. :rolleyes:

Kdogg 08-14-2012 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cmb74656 (Post 5442961)
I'm still waiting for the return of the Berlinetta. :rolleyes:

Wow, haven't heard that name in a while! Wasn't that the luxury model?

JimE 08-14-2012 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kdogg (Post 5443303)
Wow, haven't heard that name in a while! Wasn't that the luxury model?

LOL...yeah, if you can call it that. The ones that I've seen were V6 Camaro models with "luxury" interior items (ie: special seats, stereo, etc.).

liquidsmoke 08-14-2012 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JoansDriver (Post 5442778)
A v6 z28? Oh god no.

At this point in time that's the only thing that makes since.

The SS is 400+
ZL1 is 500+
Tuner cars are 6,7,8
Then there is the copo also

Really can't see them making another v8 model. What would be special about it that would make anyone choose it over the existing options? It can't be just looks as those won't stray too far from what exist now and they definately won't make it look better than the ZL1.

But twin turbos on a 6 pushing 400+ and decent gas milage will peak the interest of a lot of people. Obviously not the people who focus on cylinder count.

slick rick 08-14-2012 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidsmoke (Post 5443734)
Really can't see them making another v8 model.

LS7 Z28 :popcorn:

11 Camaro IBM 08-14-2012 11:22 PM

ls9 z28 with pdk tranny haha

1BADLS3 08-15-2012 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidsmoke (Post 5443734)
At this point in time that's the only thing that makes since.

The SS is 400+
ZL1 is 500+
Tuner cars are 6,7,8
Then there is the copo also

Really can't see them making another v8 model. What would be special about it that would make anyone choose it over the existing options? It can't be just looks as those won't stray too far from what exist now and they definately won't make it look better than the ZL1.

But twin turbos on a 6 pushing 400+ and decent gas milage will peak the interest of a lot of people. Obviously not the people who focus on cylinder count.

It only makes sense from the perspective that turbo and supercharged V6's are likely going to make it into more pedestrian GM models, and there is great cost savings by sharing common motors and architecture. I could see GM phasing out V8's in future generations especially as the truck market starts adopting smaller forced-induction motors (read: Success of the turbo V6 Ford F150). But I think that transition is at least into the 6th generation or maybe even 7th generation Camaro--if GM continues to produce the car. That's always an 'IF'.

Besides cylinder count and sound, pushrod V8's are beautifully simple and easy to maintain, which makes them a great option in these cars. You can get power and speed...I can't imagine they cost MORE to manufacture than a forced induction 6, so it helps keep the cost of the vehicle relatively low.

But before we see ANY of this happen, first we need to watch the evolution of the SIDI 3.6 motor and also see what's in store for the new generation of LS motors.

Doc 08-15-2012 12:21 AM

They're not going to put a V6 of any kind in a car with the name Z/28 on it; these guys are car enthusiasts, not corporate suits from accounting. They know what the Z/28 was and they know what it needs to be.

The Z/28 was never about horsepower; it wasn't a drag racer. It was a Can-Am challenger to take on the Boss 302 on the great road courses of the day. The 1LE option on an SS gives you a clue of the direction they're going to go in with the next Z/28. They're learning on the models they've already released. The ZL1 is a suspension wonder-car; it shows what can be done with handling using that magnetic suspension technology, but it's too heavy to be a Z/28 which is probably why they didn't give it that name. The 1LE shows how they're looking at the drivetrain; not just the suspension. They're learning; studying; developing; experimenting. You can see it with these special releases. Look at what the COPO Camaro can do right out of the box.

The car they actually feel is worth being called a Z/28 is going to be a game changer. Can't wait to see what they come up with.

Obzen 08-15-2012 12:25 AM

So IF a Z28 comes out. Will everyone sweep the 4th Gen Z28 under the rug? I hear all this talk about what a Z28 was always meant to be and how legendary the name tag is. but wasn't the 4th Gen just the "run of the mill" V8 Camaro? For that matter wasn't it the same way for the 3rd gen?

J-ROD-210 08-15-2012 12:31 AM

I just don't know why people are so hung up with the Z28 name. GM not making Z's period. There was a time when they were Z-ing everything. Cavalier Z,Beretta Z ,Lumina Z and Silverado Z. Big freaking deal! I forgot all the numbers.Z-24,Z-26,Z-34 and Z-71 and yes Z-28....so what?


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