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cbass 08-18-2012 12:39 AM

1LE Camaro Tire Dilema
 
With GM dragging their feet on releasing/building the 1LE it looks like they won't be hitting dealerships until the fall/winter. Since they come with summer tires that presents a problem living in a state with winter. That leaves me with 2 options.

1. Wait to order the car. Meaning it will be another half a year before I get the car.
2. Replace the tires and enjoy the car when it's cold.

I would like to make #2 happen. However, does anyone make winter tires in that size? What are the ZL1 owners running for winter tires? If there are no winter tires, then has anyone one all season tires in the cold with good results? If so, then which tires have you run?

Ryan84 08-18-2012 12:52 AM

Buy a set of stock ss rims from the classified section. Then slap on a set of nitto motivo all season tires. Then enjoy.

cbass 08-18-2012 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryan84 (Post 5459999)
Buy a set of stock ss rims from the classified section. Then slap on a set of nitto motivo all season tires. Then enjoy.

Do the motivo's work well in cold weather? I don't plan to use the car in snow, but the Goodyear Eagle Supercar G:2 that come stock supposedly crack below 40 degrees. Will the motivo's provide adequate traction in the cold compared to summer tires?

MikeSVX 08-18-2012 02:14 AM

If not in snow, you could also just run the factory SS tires. They are also a summer tire, but I haven't had any problems in cold temps. Never drove it in snow though.

edgehead2000 08-18-2012 08:32 AM

^
Cold temps? You live in SoCal man?! Jk lol

cbass 08-18-2012 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by edgehead2000 (Post 5460387)
^
Cold temps? You live in SoCal man?! Jk lol

Much worse. I live in Chicago. :mad0260:

PYROLYSIS 08-18-2012 09:47 AM

Did some math in a ZL1 tire thread. Just replacing these bad boys every 15k miles will come to $11,333 in tires once you reach 100k miles. :confused0068: Not many people in that thread were getting 15k miles out of the goodyears.

cbass 08-18-2012 09:50 AM

The stock tire size on the 1LE is suppose to be 285/35R20. There is no Motivo tire in that size and in fact I can't find anything except the goodyears in that size. But......it looks like the 275/35R20 Motivo should be a adequate replacement? I am far from being a tire expert, so can someone with tire knowledge give me their input?

The goodyears that will come stock have an overall diameter of 27.9
with a width of 11.4. Those numbers are pretty much dead on with the
Motivo's and you would expect those numbers out of a 285/35R20 tires instead of a 275/35R20.

Overall diameter on the Motivo: 27.87
The overall width: 11.38

Compare that to the Invo's that also come in 275/35R20

Invo Overall Diameter: 27.6
Overall Width: 10.67

That seems more what I would expect out of a 275/35R20 tire.

The Stig 08-18-2012 10:34 AM

get a set of used SS rims and put 275/40/20 Pirelli Scoprion Ice & Snows on all four corners. That's what I do for the winter and the car handles better than my old Wrangler.

cbass 08-18-2012 11:21 AM

It also looks like Pirelli has a set of winter tires in 285/35R20. The sotozeros.

MikeSVX 08-18-2012 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by edgehead2000 (Post 5460387)
^
Cold temps? You live in SoCal man?! Jk lol

It isn't the only place I've lived. I lived I Vegas before San Diego. Winters there got fairly cold. Even had snow my first winter there. Plus I've travel a lot in the time I've had her.

BLKSS1LE 08-19-2012 12:11 PM

Do what I did, I ordered a beautiful set of 245/45/20 Pirelli Scoprion Ice & Snows for all 4 corners. The skinnier the tire the better it will handle in the snow and it will only add roughly 3% spedo difference (pratically nothing). I went throught Bestwheeldeals.com and ask for Jon. Super fast shipping and this guy was amazing. I got the tsw nurburgring wheel , gunmetal finish and I cant even describe how cool these look. He also gave me painted to match center caps and powder coated lug nuts for 2850 with free ship!

Bad@ssCamaro 08-23-2012 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stieger (Post 5460738)
get a set of used SS rims and put 275/40/20 Pirelli Scoprion Ice & Snows on all four corners. That's what I do for the winter and the car handles better than my old Wrangler.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLKSS1LE (Post 5464219)
Do what I did, I ordered a beautiful set of 245/45/20 Pirelli Scoprion Ice & Snows for all 4 corners. The skinnier the tire the better it will handle in the snow and it will only add roughly 3% spedo difference (pratically nothing). I went throught Bestwheeldeals.com and ask for Jon. Super fast shipping and this guy was amazing. I got the tsw nurburgring wheel , gunmetal finish and I cant even describe how cool these look. He also gave me painted to match center caps and powder coated lug nuts for 2850 with free ship!

I would have to agree with Steiger and BLKSS1LE with the seperate tire and wheel combination as I will be doing the same once I get my car. This will save on the wear compared to getting all seasons and you should get more life out of the tires. It will also be pretty easy to swap out the tires instead of having to bring them to a shop and swapping out the tires only.

cbass 08-23-2012 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad@ssCamaro (Post 5484941)
I would have to agree with Steiger and BLKSS1LE with the seperate tire and wheel combination as I will be doing the same once I get my car. This will save on the wear compared to getting all seasons and you should get more life out of the tires. It will also be pretty easy to swap out the tires instead of having to bring them to a shop and swapping out the tires only.

Should I be looking for used SS wheels then or will the 19" 2LT wheels from the V6 fit?

Bad@ssCamaro 08-23-2012 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cbass (Post 5485037)
Should I be looking for used SS wheels then or will the 19" 2LT wheels from the V6 fit?

I am looking into 18" wheels that will fit(I've read that they will as long as you don't have the brakes with the rollerskates for weights) Tires should be a little cheaper and give a taller profile for a better ride. Yea, if you could find used, that would be cool. There was someone on the forum selling a set of 18" LT tires and wheels for like $700 and I was corresponding with him up until a few days ago, but I guess he found another buyer. Oh, well, there will be another opportunity.

Higgs Boson 08-23-2012 11:55 PM

damn buy a beater four wheel drive truck for the price of some wheels and tires instead. all that salt will kill your new 1le. I lived in Maryland for two years and I could not believe what those salty winters did to two year old cars. the calipers, rotors, frames, were all flaking off. gross.

Rangore 08-24-2012 12:19 AM

Summer tires get hard when it's cold out and traction can be very dangerous. It's not smart to drive with them in freezing temperatures.


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Bad@ssCamaro 08-24-2012 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Higgs Boson (Post 5485303)
damn buy a beater four wheel drive truck for the price of some wheels and tires instead. all that salt will kill your new 1le. I lived in Maryland for two years and I could not believe what those salty winters did to two year old cars. the calipers, rotors, frames, were all flaking off. gross.

Meh! I'd just drive it to a touchless car wash every couple of weeks and it will be fine. I've got a 2006 grand prix and driven thru 2 winters and there's no more rust than when I first got it. Besides a reliable beater 4 wheel drive vehicle around these parts are more expensive than a set of tires and wheels.

Soulr˙che 11-13-2012 01:43 PM

sheesh! wow, the tires i priced are like.. wow..1500 + for 4.

i wanted the black 10 spoke rims.. maybe not..

Pro Stock John 11-13-2012 07:39 PM

Used SS rims come up for sale locally all the time on here:

http://www.chicago5thgen.com/

I'm putting snow tires, Pirellis, on my stock rims, I have black rims with my summer tires up front and drag radials on back.

I haven't put them on the car yet but soon. I'll post up my thoughts. My car runs 12.3's right now and makes 380rwhp.

cbass 11-13-2012 10:19 PM

I decided to solve this dilema another way. I moved to Phoenix. No more need for winter tires. :)

Bad@ssCamaro 11-14-2012 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbass (Post 5806320)
I decided to solve this dilema another way. I moved to Phoenix. No more need for winter tires. :)

:thumbup: Cool, now you'll just have to not spin them so much so you're not buying a new set of rear tires every 6 months. :bellyroll: How soon before you drop the order in?

LRJet35 11-14-2012 09:50 AM

I'm wondering with them driving the 1LE's about 14 miles before delivery to get the hood wrap done etc what are they gonna do when there's snow on the roads and it's well below freezing at the products plant? Would they trailer the cars to get the wrap done, put diff wheels and tires on? I can't believe they'd be driving these cars on snowy/icy roads back and fourth to the location for hood wraps.

Bad@ssCamaro 11-15-2012 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LRJet35 (Post 5807413)
I'm wondering with them driving the 1LE's about 14 miles before delivery to get the hood wrap done etc what are they gonna do when there's snow on the roads and it's well below freezing at the products plant? Would they trailer the cars to get the wrap done, put diff wheels and tires on? I can't believe they'd be driving these cars on snowy/icy roads back and fourth to the location for hood wraps.

They dealt with it when they were building the ZL1's last winter, and they have the same tires. So, no, they won't be trailering or swapping out tires, they just have to be cautious driving. Could be one reason that the cars are in QC for a little while during the winter months until the roads are drivable.

Cooley 11-18-2012 12:57 PM

I'm considering getting Continental Extreme Contact DWS tires for my 1LE, putting 275/35/20 on front and 315/35/20 on back. I read in one of the forums that some of the ZL1 people have had good results with this combo.

Quote:

Originally Posted by whemming (Post 5809389)
continental dws extreme 275/35r20 & 315/35r20 seem like a good tire choice. And fairly cheap compared to the other options. Of course these are all season and you will lose some performance, but you gain ride quality and thread life. Other users on here have gone with this combo on ZL1 wheels and liked them. Just another option!

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...nental&page=12

My question is whether the 315 in the rear will cause any problems on the 1LE. Any thoughts?

Also, could we put a sticky in the 1LE forum for our tire solutions?


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