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ChrisRav 08-29-2012 07:28 PM

SS w/ suspension upgrades or 1LE?
I will hopefully be getting a 2013 2SS/RS m6 camaro soon. I personally love the look of airlift on the 5th gen camaros but would really enjoy a car that handles well.

My question would be could a pedderized or bagged SS be able to compete with a 1LE around the track? It would be a daily driver so I would perfer as smooth of a ride as possible but yet be able to take a turn fast without fear of loosing control. What do you think would be the best way to go? I dont know much about suspension but for the money is the 1LE package worth it when you can get air or pedders for around the same cost plus the killer looks?

Thanks in Advance!

Beezwax 08-29-2012 07:32 PM

upgrades... the 1LE kit is $3500+... with that money, you can do Coilovers, Sway bars, All Bushings, Links, Strut Braces, Tubular Subframe for weight reduction and might have some money left over for a full tank of gas

ChrisRav 08-29-2012 07:49 PM

That's what I was leaning towards, just upgrading instead of purchasing the package from the factory. Does anyone who has airlift know how it performs compared to the 1LE or a pedderized camaro? I really love the slammed look and the adjustable ride height.

Nessal 08-29-2012 08:13 PM

It's not that simple. You didn't factor in the better rear gears or the forged rims. Those alone are wortg the ticket. Everything else is icing on the cake.

Synner 08-29-2012 08:36 PM

Get the 1le, you get gears, wheels, tires, transmission and cooler, etc. You can't do those upgrades for 3500.

ITGuy11 08-29-2012 10:15 PM

1le is a steal at $3500, I sure wish it was an option when I got my car.

ChrisRav 08-29-2012 10:23 PM

Gears and rims really help with handling?

2SS45th 08-29-2012 10:32 PM

Gears help with acceleration and that sort of stuff, and the wider wheels give a wider contact patch for grip. The 1LE doesn't have fully forged wheels though, just rotary forged. The airlift kit will help hadling some, but there's a reason that racing cars use coils. The 1LE also has a close ratio gear box. The 1LE will not get as good of mileage though, I always say that you can do it cheaper yourself than GM.

ChrisRav 08-29-2012 11:02 PM

So for speed and good handling go 1LE , for good looks and a handling boost go airlift. If I were to get the 1le I would most likely get a 1SS , however if I were going the airlift route I could get the 2SS and add on later , another thing to take into consideration

JOHNSONROD 08-30-2012 07:44 AM

no question in my opinion . . . get the 1LE. you can buy 3500 worth of suspension parts but you cant get the trans and the rear end for that money. the trans and the rear end are reported to be what makes it a complete package.
i have an ss and im itching to go order one of these. im not going to, but i want to.

Higgs Boson 08-30-2012 08:09 AM

1LE for sure.

jeremywes 08-30-2012 08:16 AM

1LE! just the trans and diff coolers are worth $3,500. But that aside I think a fully pedderized car would beat it hands down. But changing on the bushings is a PITA and requires special tools that most people will not have.

jeremywes 08-30-2012 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by ChrisRav (Post 5511028)
Gears and rims really help with handling?

The right gear ratio will keep you in the power band without down shifting to the top of the next lower gear, if you're already on the edge of your tires that could upset the balance of the car during hard cornering.

Lighter wheels or the reduction in rotating mass will be easier to accelerate and easier to stop.

bannonm 08-30-2012 09:46 AM

I spent $3K in just lighter wheels and tires to go with the same size all around. I have another $4K into the suspension. I'm probably above the levels of a stock 1LE in the suspension side. The only thing I'm missing is the gears and I'm investigating that.

The 1LE is a bargain.

Doubleblank 08-30-2012 11:21 AM

Depends on how much you're going to track the car......and your budget. If you'll track the car regularly and want to run with the big dogs out there, then you're going to want to personally select all of your important pieces. I'm talking bigger wheels and tires, adjustable coilovers, adjustable ASB's, bushings, etc. So if you're going to do a custom setup eventually, go SS. If all you want is a track ready car to do a PDX ocasionally, the 1LE is the cheapest way to go.

Bruce@raymondsperformance 08-30-2012 12:47 PM

I'm thinking a 1Le with Pedders:D

Rob@WretchedMS 08-30-2012 01:08 PM

Does the 1LE have a diff cooler, i think i missed that one

Beezwax 08-30-2012 01:20 PM

i guess all this hinders on how the car with be driven

Hotchkis 08-30-2012 01:48 PM

Your other option to get 1LE levels of handling for your SS would be to look at our 2010+ Camaro Race Pack Stage 3 Total Vehicle System (TVS). This kit includes Sport Coil Springs, Front Sway Bar, Adjustable Rear Sway Bar, Front and Rear Heavy Duty Adjustable End Links, Strut Tower Brace, and Chassis Brace. These parts are designed to compliment each other and give you a matched suspension setup that works right out of the box. And even better, all of this engineering is available for under $2500.

Check out what Autoblog and Road and Track have to say about how the handling of a Hotchkis-equipped Camaro compares to stock:

Beezwax 08-30-2012 03:29 PM


ChrisRav 08-30-2012 04:41 PM

Thanks a lot everybody! If it wasn't for the gears and wheels I think I would lean towards air or pedders, but 1LE sounds like a deal plus its under warranty. does anybody have pictures of an 1LE interior? Is it the same as a zl1? I really do like the interior of the zl1

ackeight 08-30-2012 05:32 PM

If I was in your position I'd get the 1LE. Then eventually get some coilovers if you can. For me I'm making my own track package car with an SS since I jumped the gun too early and got a new 2010 :)

toehead93 08-31-2012 09:02 PM

The 1LE is a lot more than suspension.

You get the close ratio mm6, 3.91 gear, extra fuel pickups, stronger axles and hubs, trans cooler, electric steering, shifter, and more. If you add everything up it is impossible to get everything for anywhere close to $3500. I am actually thinking about selling my SS for a 1LE. Look at it this way, with the 1LE you are paying $3,500 for the ZL1 wheels and tires, all the other options are free.

Leb SS2/RS 08-31-2012 10:05 PM

Would you have ground clearance issues with the Hotchkis stage 3 race package ?
I am interested in the kit, but I don't want to have ground clearence issue due to bad roads where I live, and I will be running coil overs so the car will be pretty low....

Rob@WretchedMS 08-31-2012 10:13 PM

That kit is an FE3 kit, not an FE4+

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