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Retro69 11-24-2012 11:07 PM

Maybe a Dumb Question? Why Are Superchargers So Expensive?
 
I am really curious what there is about superchargers that makes them so expensive?

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Rat 11-24-2012 11:24 PM

What part?

Kinda like saying cars are expensive.:facepalm:

Birm 11-24-2012 11:24 PM

Demand drives prices :)

SSE 4 2SS 11-24-2012 11:32 PM

Like Birm said and to expand on that... Lots of research goes into them... they are a specialty item, certainly not necessary... and people will charge what the market allows... In a hot new much desired car like the 5th Gen, they will be pricey... but not excessively so to my knowledge...

Birm 11-24-2012 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SSE 4 2SS (Post 5842767)
Like Birm said and to expand on that... Lots of research goes into them... they are a specialty item, certainly not necessary... and people will charge what the market allows... In a hot new much desired car like the 5th Gen, they will be pricey... but not excessively so to my knowledge...

Thats why you are a Mod lol:respekt:

SSE 4 2SS 11-24-2012 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Birm (Post 5842785)
Thats why you are a Mod lol:respekt:

nah, just gabby as you have discovered...

SPARTAN sui 11-24-2012 11:52 PM

I think it's all supply and demand. Niche market, all of what everyone has mentioned already. I've always wondered the same, seems like you don't get a whole lot for $5,000+ considering you can buy a used vehicle for that much money.

But that used vehicle isn't going to be as much fun!

Rcfiddy1 11-24-2012 11:54 PM

Because its worth it! :D

Birm 11-25-2012 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SSE 4 2SS (Post 5842801)
nah, just gabby as you have discovered...

:laughabove: You're not as bad as people say :sm0:

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Originally Posted by Rcfiddy1 (Post 5842815)
Because its worth it! :D

:word:

SSE 4 2SS 11-25-2012 12:02 AM

I've been called some pretty bad things... but I consider the source...

Op, sorry for the thread jack, back to your regularly scheduled programming...

lakersftbl69 11-25-2012 12:03 AM

Ya but why is it say if I were to get a supercharger say for a new 5.0 mustang and the same one for a camaro ls3 ss it's so much more for the camaro even if u compare older model such as a 2002 mustang compared to a 2002 camaro the camaros are so much more. Why? Does that much differance in price really have to do with the smaller displacement engine in the mustangs compared to the camaro

Jessika 11-25-2012 12:04 AM

There is an insane amount of R& D that goes into producing something like a supercharger.
I know that the eaton rotors in the TVS are not cheap... Then factor in the labor hours to machine the pieces & assemble them. I think SLP has it right by offering their new supercharger system at 6750...

The reason the mustang supercharger is cheaper is because it is a front drive. Compare apples to apples and it will work out to be right about the same.

lakersftbl69 11-25-2012 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jessika@SCC (Post 5842844)
There is an insane amount of R& D that goes into producing something like a supercharger.
I know that the eaton rotors in the TVS are not cheap... Then factor in the labor hours to machine the pieces & assemble them. I think SLP has it right by offering their new supercharger system at 6750...

The reason the mustang supercharger is cheaper is because it is a front drive. Compare apples to apples and it will work out to be right about the same.

Oh I see

willhe64 11-25-2012 11:03 AM

Having just installed the TVS2300 kit i can see why they are up there in price. The blower itself is a precision part with sub .001" tolerances and high strength metals. I'm guessing that alone would be worth $2500-$3000. More than a rear differential which is close but not quite the level of tech of the blower head unit. Then add in the manifold and intercooler, heat exchanger, pump, injectors, SCT tuner and all the other stuff. and I can easily see why they are priced the way they are.

GaBoy25 11-25-2012 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by willhe64 (Post 5843752)
Having just installed the TVS2300 kit i can see why they are up there in price. The blower itself is a precision part with sub .001" tolerances and high strength metals. I'm guessing that alone would be worth $2500-$3000. More than a rear differential which is close but not quite the level of tech of the blower head unit. Then add in the manifold and intercooler, heat exchanger, pump, injectors, SCT tuner and all the other stuff. and I can easily see why they are priced the way they are.

And compared to the price of twins completely acceptable;)

willhe64 11-25-2012 12:11 PM

What is a twin turbo kit gonna run you, parts only?

Unreal 11-25-2012 12:15 PM

~$6500-7500 depending on what turbos/etc. That would be complete with an SCT/Fuel/Etc. Hard parts only would be cheaper. The thing people need to realize is they don't need headers so they save $1300+ right there. They don't need to add CAIs, save $300. Don't need to add tensioners/8 rib/damper/etc to crank the boost up ($200-$1500). Super easy install and make as much power as you want.

Nitroman28 11-25-2012 12:52 PM

I find the TVS2300 to better priced for what it is then the Rearend conversion kits. They are way over price. 5000.00 and you still have to buy the center section and it uses the 9in housing you can buy for 250.00. I've bought complete Moser 9in rearends with Strange axles and complete center section for 3500. I just don't see where they get the price from. Put Camaro in the name and the price triples.

AngelSpeedFreak 11-25-2012 12:57 PM

Superchargers are cheap, it's all the supporting mods that add up to big money. Ask anyone with a lot of power and they will tell you....

willhe64 11-25-2012 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitroman28 (Post 5844082)
I find the TVS2300 to better priced for what it is then the Rearend conversion kits. They are way over price. 5000.00 and you still have to buy the center section and it uses the 9in housing you can buy for 250.00. I've bought complete Moser 9in rearends with Strange axles and complete center section for 3500. I just don't see where they get the price from. Put Camaro in the name and the price triples.

Haha, I was going to mention this in my post a few up from yours. Not to mention it is 60's technology that has been around forever. I can't see where the expense is in these. I built the 9" in my vega for about $2000. That was narrowed with strange axles and spool too.

rdblan2 11-25-2012 05:23 PM

Superchargers are so expensive for the same reason that divorces are expensive.

mikeSS 11-25-2012 05:55 PM

i really never seen the value in going down a supercharger route. after everything is installed and tune. and lets be honest who the hell just puts a s/c in there car?. people do other mods as well. exhaust, maybe a PSI gauge, rims and tires maybe. other supporting mods to help longevity. maybe suspension mods etc..all of that with for the most part loss of a warranty.

I feel like if you were to take that money, put it into a Zl1 the payments really wouldn't be much more, or even more at all. you will be getting a better suspension, s/c engine, better rims/tires and a warranty.

Nitroman28 11-25-2012 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeSS (Post 5844895)
i really never seen the value in going down a supercharger route. after everything is installed and tune. and lets be honest who the hell just puts a s/c in there car?. people do other mods as well. exhaust, maybe a PSI gauge, rims and tires maybe. other supporting mods to help longevity. maybe suspension mods etc..all of that with for the most part loss of a warranty.

I feel like if you were to take that money, put it into a Zl1 the payments really wouldn't be much more, or even more at all. you will be getting a better suspension, s/c engine, better rims/tires and a warranty.


But if you don't void your warranty on the ZL1 your just another slow car at the track. I have raced 2 Stock ZL1's and beat both. Not impressed for the price.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...Wd3lkOUE#gid=0

SSE 4 2SS 11-25-2012 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeSS (Post 5844895)
i really never seen the value in going down a supercharger route. after everything is installed and tune. and lets be honest who the hell just puts a s/c in there car?. people do other mods as well. exhaust, maybe a PSI gauge, rims and tires maybe. other supporting mods to help longevity. maybe suspension mods etc..all of that with for the most part loss of a warranty.

I feel like if you were to take that money, put it into a Zl1 the payments really wouldn't be much more, or even more at all. you will be getting a better suspension, s/c engine, better rims/tires and a warranty.

The value is in the desire of the individual that makes the money and spends it the way they desire, for the end result they desire...We had some clown on here under multiple acct's that was trying to tell me that if I could truly afford my car and what I've spent on it, I would have a Ferrarri or Lambo... but here's the truth... I like the Camaro, always have, always will... It's my car, my money, my desires and no one else s...European rattle box's don't do anything for me... They are for white collar guys that hold their pinkies out and wear silly looking hats and gloves while driving... I'm way to working class for that...

And as for the comment about the ZL1, feel free to go and get one... and I'll run you in the arena my car is designed for... Hennessey proved they can go 203... but it took 1.7 miles to accomplish that... I've been faster and did it in about 3/4's of a mile... blew a head gasket and still coasted through the finish line of the mile at 197...

I've sat in a few ZL1's, and they are amazing cars, no doubt... fast in a multitude of arenas... solid... etc.... I would love to have one for a daily driver and may some day... so I can leave my lowly SS for weekend runs...

midnighter 11-25-2012 06:50 PM

Because 426 HP isn't enough HP.


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