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Mr. iNCREDIBLE 12-18-2012 12:25 PM

did you know..
 
that if you do not have your key fully extended when you start the car, you will get the theft alert on the DIC and the car won't start?


I usually flip my key back 90 when driving, keeps me from wacking my knee on the house key..

tried to start my car with the key only half open.. can't do it..


didn't realize the key apparently completes the circuit for the RFID (or whatever system GM is using) signal.

BaylorCamaro 12-18-2012 12:55 PM

Interesting. Going to try this when I go to lunch today.

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menendez1293 12-18-2012 01:12 PM

I guess you learn something new every day. I might have to give it a try and see what happens.

BaylorCamaro 12-18-2012 02:50 PM

Yup sure enough it wouldn't turn on.

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fsusmithc2 12-18-2012 03:19 PM

Hmm. So somebody can't just take or somehow copy the key part and steal your ride. Interesting.

velocity149 12-19-2012 01:02 PM

bull&hit, tried every orientation, key fully and not fully opened, and the car starts fine... ill take a video, can you do the same?

MyIBMssRS 12-19-2012 01:25 PM

Wow, that's a new one! Still finding 'new' discoveries 4 model years in.

Mr. iNCREDIBLE 12-19-2012 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by velocity149 (Post 5935231)
bull&hit, tried every orientation, key fully and not fully opened, and the car starts fine... ill take a video, can you do the same?


yeah i'll do a video..

my car won't start unless the key is fully extended.. some others have verified the same.. Now once the car is started it doesn't matter if you fold back the key, as I said I have been doing that to keep the keys from rattling and smacking my knee.


But I'll make a video when I go to lunch.

mattsfirstSS 12-19-2012 02:50 PM

Sure enough! Just tried this, got an STD :sm0:

2001ragtop 12-19-2012 03:08 PM

One day you are going to have an RFID inside you too :-)

Mr. iNCREDIBLE 12-19-2012 03:34 PM

here ya'll go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfwXG...ature=youtu.be

Cruuzin LV 12-19-2012 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by velocity149 (Post 5935231)
bull&hit, tried every orientation, key fully and not fully opened, and the car starts fine... ill take a video, can you do the same?


Maybe since yours is in Canada it doesnt know any better than to not let someone steal it?:D

RollaMo 12-19-2012 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by velocity149 (Post 5935231)
bull&hit, tried every orientation, key fully and not fully opened, and the car starts fine... ill take a video, can you do the same?

Our 2011 2SS/RS is the same.

Makes no difference in the key position.
Starts with the key not fully open just as it does fully extended.

Caspers2SSRS 12-19-2012 04:55 PM

2010 SS here and it does'nt matter whether the keys fully extended or not..........starts right up. So this appears to be a feature exclusive to 12's............wondering if they added it at some point in the production run and whether the feature varies by VIN/build date/number or whether the V6 models like (
velocity149 )
are exempt, the OP's is a SS?

Mr. iNCREDIBLE 12-19-2012 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caspers2SSRS (Post 5936029)
2010 SS here and it does'nt matter whether the keys fully extended or not..........starts right up. So this appears to be a feature exclusive to 12's............wondering if they added it at some point in the production run and whether the feature varies by VIN/build date/number ?


it's possible. I dunno, just found it interesting..

could be with the redesign of the steering wheel/column in 2012, the RFID antenna is placed differently and the sender in the key isn't lining up.

Caspers2SSRS 12-19-2012 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. iNCREDIBLE (Post 5935801)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RollaMo (Post 5935946)
Our 2011 2SS/RS is the same.

Makes no difference in the key position.
Starts with the key not fully open just as it does fully extended.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. iNCREDIBLE (Post 5936039)
it's possible. I dunno, just found it interesting..

could be with the redesign of the steering wheel/column in 2012, the RFID antenna is placed differently and the sender in the key isn't lining up.

That could explain the year model variances........but yours and
velocity149 are both 12's. His being a V6 though :iono: would'nt the steering wheels be the same ?

Mr. iNCREDIBLE 12-19-2012 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caspers2SSRS (Post 5936077)
That could explain the year model variances........but yours and
velocity149 are both 12's. His being a V6 though :iono: would'nt the steering wheels be the same ?


but he is also in Canada and I am sure there are some differences in the BCM programming as well as the Canadian version of our NHTSA has different regulations with regards to theft deterrent systems.

Iwantone2 12-19-2012 05:12 PM

I don't want to risk breaking my car...so I won't try :D

shrinkdoc 12-19-2012 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BaylorCamaro (Post 5930846)
Interesting. Going to try this when I go to lunch today.

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Hmm..will try before work in the morning.:rolleyes:

shrinkdoc 12-19-2012 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. iNCREDIBLE (Post 5935801)

Thats iNCREDIBLE!:cool: Thankyou for this valuable training video.:thumbup:

mattsfirstSS 12-19-2012 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shrinkdoc (Post 5937291)
Hmm..will try before work in the morning.:rolleyes:

Not sure it's an issue in the srt yugo :)

velocity149 12-20-2012 12:00 AM

so i was messing around with the car, and i found out the follwing:
the car starts with key in any orientation
my tach dosnt work when i start the car with the key half folded
the shifter will ot shift into "M" with the key half folded.
I am scared that the theft deterent system is broken, and just ot fully working. called dealership, and they said that it should not start with the key half folded, as it is a security measure ensuring that nobody can copy the key (dont know how that is possible) but he booked me in for service.
anyways, thanks for bringing this up MR.iNCREDIBLE, s I would have never noticed this if you hadn't.

C586 12-20-2012 12:03 AM

Mine started with the key in any orientation.

Cam2011 12-20-2012 12:08 AM

So if it starts then your theft deterrent system is broken?

Thank god mine didn't start.

RSloth 12-20-2012 12:29 AM

....mine starts without it being fully extended......


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