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BigMikeZL1 01-09-2013 01:25 PM

ZL1 tires after goodyear
 
Just like to ask you guys what tire are you going with after good years.. i have 7500 on my ZL1 and can see am going to need new tires very soon.. so just like to ask what you guys think,

Dega Man 01-09-2013 01:46 PM

If you are not a advid track driver you might want to consider the Bridgestones.

hognutz 01-09-2013 02:32 PM

I will most likely try the michelin Super sports. To see how they compare. they are a bit more money though. they don't have exact sizing but you could do 295 315. they also do have a 305 listed i just dont think it is out yet.

I had NT05's on my Z06 and they work well too but they are sized a bit odd. 275 then 315.

c4maroboy 01-09-2013 03:45 PM

Im sticking with the Goodyears.. Im not an avid track go-er but am really impressed with my tires and how they perform. The michelin Super sports would probably do wonders for the car..but they are just too impractical to be on my daily driver.

hognutz 01-09-2013 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by c4maroboy (Post 6014297)
Im sticking with the Goodyears.. Im not an avid track go-er but am really impressed with my tires and how they perform. The michelin Super sports would probably do wonders for the car..but they are just too impractical to be on my daily driver.

what is impractical about a tire with longer tread life, less noise? super sports are not the sport cups.

the only downside the the supersports is price and I am alos not convinced that they will "corner" much better but am not sure.

KKreme15 01-09-2013 05:30 PM

There's a reason those michelins aren't on the much heavier camaro. The goodyears have a stiffer sidewall

jbotta 01-09-2013 05:59 PM

Track my car, Love the goodyear's

c4maroboy 01-09-2013 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by hognutz (Post 6014486)
what is impractical about a tire with longer tread life, less noise? super sports are not the sport cups.

the only downside the the supersports is price and I am alos not convinced that they will "corner" much better but am not sure.

my bad!:facepalm: i thought you meant the sport cups!

16floz470ml 01-09-2013 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by KKreme15 (Post 6014677)
There's a reason those michelins aren't on the much heavier camaro. The goodyears have a stiffer sidewall

The michelin pilot super sports have different spec tires in the same size. For example I put on Ferrari spec 295s in front and 315s in the back. The regular pss in 295 has a load rating of 1521 lbs. The Ferrari spec pss is 2039 lbs. The factory goodyear is 1764 lbs. If I was only racing my car the goodyears are a great tire. I like to drive sometimes when it rains. The Michelins are a better overall tire in my opinion.

zl1bro 01-10-2013 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 16floz470ml (Post 6015164)
The michelin pilot super sports have different spec tires in the same size. For example I put on Ferrari spec 295s in front and 315s in the back. The regular pss in 295 has a load rating of 1521 lbs. The Ferrari spec pss is 2039 lbs. The factory goodyear is 1764 lbs. If I was only racing my car the goodyears are a great tire. I like to drive sometimes when it rains. The Michelins are a better overall tire in my opinion.

Are the Michelins as good around a dry track as the Goodyears? There may not be an answer to this question yet. I don't think I would pay a lot more for a tire that doesn't perform as well in dry track conditions just to get the other benefits. Would be interesting to do a side by side test of both tires on the ZL1 in different conditions..

Drew P 01-10-2013 01:21 PM

I ordered the 315 super sports from Discount Tire. However, the sales rep said he had a friend with a Zl1 who did the same thing and told him that they rubbed going over bumps. I have no way of verifying this info. Anyone have similar or different experience using the 315s (michelin pilot super sport)???

SlingShot 01-10-2013 01:36 PM

I don't track my cars, so I may just go with Hankooks and save a few bucks.

OldJedi 01-11-2013 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SlingShot (Post 6018296)
I don't track my cars, so I may just go with Hankooks and save a few bucks.

I am curious about what size and models of Hankooks you would pick?

Richy_Rich 01-11-2013 11:18 AM

if Dunlop Direzza was available in the ZL1 sizing, grabe them up.

SlingShot 01-11-2013 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OldJedi (Post 6022403)
I am curious about what size and models of Hankooks you would pick?

I'm thinking about the V12's in 305/25/20 & 285/30/20 and using the same tires on my SS but smaller size. I think they would do good in the Florida rain.

Vangres 01-11-2013 08:41 PM

What about Pirelli P Zero Max Performance Summer?
Front: 285/35ZR20 Rear: 305/35ZR20
only problem is see is that it has higher thread wear on rears same on front compared with good years, but i hear it has better traction.
Also about 400 USD higher in all tires

I'm planning to use MTs on rear 1st though
:burnrubber:

Mr. Wyndham 01-11-2013 08:48 PM

An important thing to consider when talking tires and ZL1 coupes, is Performance Traction Management. I spoke with the engineers who worked on this system when we were in Virginia last February:

It's important to note that PTM was designed explicitly with the F1 G:2 Eagle's in mind. Swap them out, and you're going to lose some functionality of PTM, because it's not calibrated for any other tire. There is no "gaining" functionality with PTM. How much you lose is unknown, though, and depends entirely on the tire you've put on.

I bring this up because the only other car people that have to think about this...is the Corvette ZR1 owners/racers...and I don't think we hear much from many of them...

...of course, if you don't care about or use PTM...disregard! ;)

I would look into Michelin SuperSports personally...have heard many good things about those. But I'm very impressed with the OE tires; impressed enough want to replace them with OE tires, again. :thumbsup:

Stephen12ZL1 01-11-2013 09:15 PM

I'm going to try the Michelins next due to the strange nature of the Goodyears at cold temps and their hockey puck to hot glue change as the temps rise.

mlee 01-11-2013 09:32 PM

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knowitman 01-11-2013 10:10 PM

That is a noticeably taller tire as also indicated by the size. How much does that affect acceleration and the speedometer?

ZL1-V 01-11-2013 11:46 PM

That looks awfully tall for a 35 series tire? I know 315's need a stiffer sidewall than 305's. No rim protector either but looks like it will work. I have used on a different car the Michelin Factory pilot series tires in the past with good sucess with fast wear as it was a sticky tire. I also tried Pireli P zeroes and liked them when they got hot, took longer to get them up to temp but worked well. The Goodyears will work just fine for me here in So Cal.

16floz470ml 01-12-2013 12:03 AM

The + size Michelins do not rub and they do have a rim protector. Look again at the pics and you will see it. It does not stick out like the Goodyears. Also the revolutions per mile for 315 PSS is 726. The 305 Goodyear is 735. Pretty close.

mmarx82 01-12-2013 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mlee (Post 6024658)
Here are some shots of the 315 Michelin on a ZL1

Are those yours? If so how are you liking them compared to the Goodyear tires? Aesthetically I'm not sure I like the look they are providing but performance wise, you tell me...

DrkPhx 01-12-2013 09:02 AM

That definitely looks too tall. Remember the plus one rule. It should be a 30 series tire; 315/30/20 which should bring the profile and overall tire height in line with the OEM tire. I don't even know if anyone makes that size tire. Curious to know what's the measured height is compared to stock.

mmarx82 01-12-2013 09:07 AM

I just sent this through Michelin's Contact form on their website.

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My stock tire sizes on my Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 are:

285/35-20 (Front)
305/35-20 (Rear)

When are you guys going to offer the missing sizes we need in Michelin Pilot Sport PS2's and the Michelin Pilot Super Sports? We don't want to mix and match tires between the front and back or go with a different size altogether. When I say we I speak on behalf of the Camaro community.
If you guys want them to make the missing tire sizes we need available with out having to mix and match these two brands or going with a different size then I suggest you guys do the same.


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