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hognutz 01-23-2013 08:07 PM

Wheel hop solution needed
 
okay so installed my pfadt trainling arms and toe links. still have wheel hop.

trying to decide between the lg motorsports brace and the pfadt solid subframe bushings.

http://www.pfadtracing.com/catalog/p...roducts_id/188

http://www.lgmotorsports.com/product...oducts_id=2290

obviouly the LG solution is cheaper and easier to install. it is also heavier and will not elimnate all the bushing deflection.

main goal is whell hop elminated cost is not an issue.

sycraft 01-23-2013 08:13 PM

Go with the Pfadt solid cradle bushings, replace the diff bushings and possible driveshaft upgrade if that is not enough....

STSL 01-23-2013 08:15 PM

Im not sure about solids but i do agree you need to work in that area.

hognutz 01-23-2013 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sycraft (Post 6074511)
Go with the Pfadt solid cradle bushings, replace the diff bushings and possible driveshaft upgrade if that is not enough....

why would I need driveshaft upgrade?

The Stig 01-23-2013 09:05 PM

Trailing arms will make the biggest impact with wheel hop IMO

sycraft 01-23-2013 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by hognutz (Post 6074688)
why would I need driveshaft upgrade?

Takes the flex out of the coupler

Fraxum 01-23-2013 09:22 PM

I would hesitate on the solid bushings unless you do not mind extra noise and harshness. But they are effective. To me a bushing upgrade is more effective than the LG brace. It will also help with rear step out. I also understand a wheel alignment change can help reduce the hop.

Even after all that you can still have hop in cold weather with TC off and if you overwhelm traction control. But in warm weather with TC off you should be good.

hognutz 01-23-2013 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Stig (Post 6074748)
Trailing arms will make the biggest impact with wheel hop IMO

already on the car still have some.

hognutz 01-23-2013 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Fraxum (Post 6074840)
I would hesitate on the solid bushings unless you do not mind extra noise and harshness. But they are effective. To me a bushing upgrade is more effective than the LG brace. It will also help with rear step out. I also understand a wheel alignment change can help reduce the hop.

Even after all that you can still have hop in cold weather with TC off and if you overwhelm traction control. But in warm weather with TC off you should be good.

well I had an 07 Z06 and they are solid bushed and the ride was not bad so I am not sure I am that worried about that side of it. does pedders have a video like pfadt showing defelection? I would love to see the difference. very hard durometer tranmist as well.

every contact point is isolated again if you think about. diff, crontol arms, trainling arms, toe rods, etc are all bushed. it is obviouly going to ride a tad rougher in certian situations but I am not sure that is bad if the cusion is you rear subframe moving.

maybe I should wait for a warmer day. in my Z06 I had wheel hop and it pissed me off. in my last mustang I had MM spherical control arms and subframe connectors. zero hop under any condition. it was just erased.

if you think about a solid frame car the body is isollated but the front and rear are connected. that is why I was considering some solutions like that that connect the two.

IcePick06 01-23-2013 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by hognutz (Post 6075127)
already on the car still have some.

I did the pfadt trailing arms/toe rods & the lowering springs and I think both helped with wheel hop much more than stock. I think having the car lower helped with traction issues but YMMV

hognutz 01-24-2013 08:28 AM

there is a video of the hotchkis chassis max brace on youbube. You can see the pfadt solution is more effective but at the same time the solution minimized deflection quite a bit.

$690+harder install+$50 rear alingment. so $740 + 4-6hr install vs
$465 to my door 30-60min install no rear alingment.

I am torn. in my mind I think I should do the pfadt bushings but it is so much easier to do the LG or hotchkis brace.


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